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« on: September 20, 2018, 12:00:39 »

I hadn't really started researching OBE's until after this experience I had a week or so ago, so I'm sorry if it's hard to follow.

For some context, I started dreaming lucidly when I was 7 before I knew the name for what I was doing. As I've gotten older I've started having the occasional sleep paralysis, and it isn't uncommon as soon as I start falling to sleep, to shift into something in between a dream and being awake with what seems to be a lower vibrational entity/thoughtform. I can move unlike with paralysis, but I can sometimes feels intense malevolent presence, the beings usually talk to me, and sometimes it seems they are overwhelmed with lust.

My point is, that I've been having nonphysical interactions for some time, but it's just something that has developed naturally.

So a week ago I woke up from sleep around 2:30am. This is close to the times where if I do go back to sleep I'll usually have an encounter with an entity so I decided to stay awake and meditate instead. I started becoming extremely focused unusually quickly. Throughout the day I always feel energy moving through me, as if my nerves are being activated with pleasure as it moves around. The energy when I enter deep meditation becomes more intense and seems to be coming from an outside source, seemingly from my lower back. I then started hearing noises of physical objects being moved around me, and high pitched sounds.

I started feeling this presence around me, as if someone was there that I couldn't see. It's a feeling I sometimes get when I encounter an entity, so the last time I got this sensation during meditation fear knocked me out of focus.

This time though, I completely surrendered to the experience and pushed on with the intention of learning more. The energy I felt was intensifying and beginning to cover my whole body. It became so intense that I felt like I was physically pulsating/vibrating. It felt like I was having what I could best describe as an orgasm over my entire body, and a few seconds later it stopped. I started floating upwards out of my chair until I hit the ceiling. I couldn't see, and when I tried to open my eyes I accidentally opened my physical eyes. I closed my eyes again and within a couple minutes began floating to the ceiling again. This time I kept my eyes closed as I tried to figure out how to see.

I felt the urge to get off the ceiling so I shot myself through the roof of my apartments maybe 50 or so feet in the air. Lucid dreaming really paid off helping me understand movement, but I still couldn't see. So as I was floating in the sky, something grabbed me underneath my arms from behind. It slowly started pulling me backwards and downwards, into what felt like an apartment room. I didn't feel malevolent intent so I stayed calm, but for some reason as soon as it started pulling me I became immediately sexually aroused?

When it let me go, I floated to the ceiling. And after I hit it, I started spinning around in circles along it like someone holding the steering wheel of a car to the right. Maybe because I couldn't see, it was hard to get my bearings? Soon after, the entity moved me back down to my body and I woke up. Maybe 10 or so seconds later a family member walked out of their room into the room I was in. It was almost as if the entity was aware I was about to be interrupted?

And that was it. What do you guys think?  huh
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2018, 12:22:26 »

 Sounds like a "spontaneous" OBE to me!  smiley Congratulations!  cool

 You saw it through this time. You passed the "fear test. Now you need to handle the "lust test. For some reason we get "tested" before we are allowed to continue down this path.

 Check this thread out here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/tests_quests_and_challenges-t46546.0.html
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2018, 12:44:14 »

It's weird, because deciding that no matter what happens I'm going to push through that experience was exactly how I overcame it. Thanks for that link.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 12:50:48 »

It's weird, because deciding that no matter what happens I'm going to push through that experience was exactly how I overcame it. Thanks for that link.
Tom Campbell, a well known name in the field of AP/OBEs, once said that you need to approach this with the mindset that "if I don't come back, then so it be". Meaning, you need to have the mindset of "I am all in". How many people are truly ready for that kind of "challenge"?
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2018, 13:15:55 »

Fear from past trauma is something I've started diving into lately through shadow work, and diving head first into it has the been the only thing that has actually helped.

I could see that same fear manifesting in these altered states, and figured if I want to truly know more about what the heck is really going on with this life like I tell myself I do, then I have to run into the experience with open arms. I don't know how hard it is for most people to make that leap into the unknown, but it was extremely difficult for me.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2018, 13:25:38 »

Like Lumaza wrote, you did really well in this experience.

Many of us have been in almost exactly the same situation. Your considerations and conclusions may need a little adjustment, but your natural reactions were nearly perfect. Well done!

The Sleep Paralysis (SP) and your awareness hitting a certain peak while you are still focused largely in your Physical body often results in some predictable, yet difficult sensations. Feeling trapped, the malevolent presence, the feeling of entities around you, a feeling of dread, chest pressure, breathing difficulties...these are all symptoms of a kind of energetic biofeedback going on that once you exit and move a certain distance away from your Physical, all these sensations tend to dissipate and lose effect.

It may, in fact, be a kind of biological/energetic default programming, an entirely natural defense mechanism designed to keep you focused within the physical body. I've never read of a satisfactory or more complete explanation, this is just my current thinking. Go on Wikipedia and search SP or the Night Hag and you will read of accounts from nearly every culture on the planet. What keeps me entertained about the phenomenon is that it draws details directly from your subconscious, so it really knows just how to freak you out specifically...what fun! I still get caught out from it from time to time.

So no, I don't think you are dealing with any local bothersome entities...although it sure can feel that way at times, Lol. I give it 1% possibility. Like Lumaza wrote, these are Fear Tests, and they won't be the first or the last. They send in pop quizzes from time to time. Then there are the Sexual Urge tests...all designed to test your emotional control, before you are allowed to wander farther around the Wider Reality. Then you get Excitement Tests, and Distraction Tests and on and on... it's all quite frustrating, wonderful and the ultimate teaching method! Looking back on your childhood dreams and experiences will now show you that the testing was going on all the time. That is a big realization all in itself!

Nicely done and welcome to a whole new world!

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 13:30:20 »

I don't know how hard it is for most people to make that leap into the unknown, but it was extremely difficult for me.
It's extremely difficult for everyone. It goes against the "physical conditioning" and mindset that we have all have grown up with.

 My thoughts before all this was that when I awoke in full SP, that there was a serious medical problem occurring, like some kind of seizure or something.  shocked Nowadays, I know better.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2018, 13:54:25 »

I did do alot of research into SP, because it became so common I had to start sleeping with the light on as a full grown adult. :<

Something weird though is instead of being frozen still, now I can move freely, which makes me wonder if i'm in the astral or something else. Typically how I become aware is by having what feels like a huge pillow slowly pressed down on me, almost like a big ball of energy. After it gets my attention this way, then it starts to interact with me.

At first these these encounters/"fear tests" just tried  to invoke terror in me. Now they are mostly sexual in nature. About a month or so ago I stopped watching porn and masturbating, because I want to have a more healthy relationship with sexual energy. I let it run my life for a long time. Even though I've made the conscious effort to be in control of my lust, the urges have become overwhelming since I quit. I guess that might have something to do with these lusts tests you're talking about?

The first encounter I had with the entity, it was like I was a completely different person. All of my inhibitions hit the ground like bricks and I completely gave into my lust.

The second encounter was less graphic so I can lay it out. I was meditating and must have gotten too sleepy, and opened my eyes to the room being dark, even though I had left the lights on. I went over to hit the light switch but nothing happened. I went back to my chair to continue meditating and then an entity hopped on top of me. It said, "Help me", but then proceeded to start kissing my neck. I reached out to feel what it was, and I could feel it so clearly, even every single strand of hair passing through my fingers. But this time I had a visceral reaction of violation. I told it to get off me and it wouldn't move. Then I tried to push it off me but didn't have the strength, and then yelled for it to get off of me with me with some vulgar language mixed in. It wasn't even phased so I forced my eyes open to get out of the experience.

It made me pretty uncomfortable afterwards when thinking about how it asked for help. It didn't say it with malevolence, but it certainly didn't sound sincere, like it's mind was too clouded by lust to state it's intentions clearly.

My reactions have changed drastically but I'm not sure if they are moving in a healthy direction?

I get that maybe these beings aren't actually beings, but I'm not really sure what to call them.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2018, 14:02:56 »

It's extremely difficult for everyone. It goes against the "physical conditioning" and mindset that we have all have grown up with.

 My thoughts before all this was that when I awoke in full SP, that there was a serious medical problem occurring, like some kind of seizure or something.  shocked Nowadays, I know better.

I awoke a few weeks ago into a type of SP but at least felt like my body was violently shaking, and had to pull myself out of it like I typically do in a dream or SP. The shaking made me think it might be a waking seizure but maybe it was just my mind playing games on me.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2018, 14:22:46 »

I did do alot of research into SP, because it became so common I had to start sleeping with the light on as a full grown adult. :<
Check out this sticky here. I think you might you will get some great info in this thread.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

 I posted there under my old name "Lionheart".  Some of my experiences mirror yours, especially the "spinning through the ceiling" portion in your description above. I usually will be "aided" out of my body, during a SP episode, by someone/something grabbing my ankles/legs and pulling me out. I am then dragged down my hallway and out my patio window. I have questioned this continued "route" though. If a window was necessary, I have 2 large windows in our bedroom. Why the need for the dragging to my patio window, I have no idea.  huh

 I have only heard one other person that described my experience to a "T" and that was by listening to a radio interview with Whitley Strieber. Although Whitley attributes his experiences to those of a "ET/Alien" encounter. It really shocked me when I heard him talk about it for the first time though.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2018, 14:51:52 »

I'll check it out.

I had the exact same thing happen once! Something grabbed my ankles and starting sliding me out of bed. I instantly forced myself awake because I wasn't having any of that. lol.

I also had something put it's palm on my forehead very calmly. I was unsure if friend or foe so I just woke myself up, regretted not seeing it through after though, since it was the first nonthreatening experience I had had.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 04:20:09 »

Well DancingBear I have thoroughly enjoyed reading of your experiences. Lumaza and EscapeVelocity have already chimed in with some great observations. Welcome to AP.

In a post above you stated, "It made me pretty uncomfortable afterwards when thinking about how it asked for help. It didn't say it with malevolence, but it certainly didn't sound sincere, like it's mind was too clouded by lust to state it's intentions clearly."

This is a thought I share. We tend to think everything we encounter in the astral in somehow in advance of our own growth and development. Truthfully though I do not think that is always so. Many of the entities we encounter are also on a journey and they too have lessons to learn. I sometimes think encounters like the one you mentioned are nothing more than some other person's etheric body trying to grasp and deal with the same energy you/we are.

Having said that I feel that when this sort of thing happens I try (not always successfully) to reach out a helping hand. It's an effort to help them control those energies and in return it helps me also control my own. With time you will find that there usually is more to these entities than just lust.

In your original post you stated. "So as I was floating in the sky, something grabbed me underneath my arms from behind. It slowly started pulling me backwards and downwards, into what felt like an apartment room. I didn't feel malevolent intent so I stayed calm, but for some reason as soon as it started pulling me I became immediately sexually aroused?"

I have had this happen and it is quite disconcerting. There are many helpers quite willing to come to your aide while you develop your talents. The energy they derive often has a sexual feel. I think that is a case of how our bodies interpret it rather than anything going on in our minds or any intent of theirs.

You are doing wonderfully well and have a natural instinct for what to do. Follow your instincts.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2018, 09:03:11 »

In a post above you stated, "It made me pretty uncomfortable afterwards when thinking about how it asked for help. It didn't say it with malevolence, but it certainly didn't sound sincere, like it's mind was too clouded by lust to state it's intentions clearly."

This is a thought I share. We tend to think everything we encounter in the astral in somehow in advance of our own growth and development. Truthfully though I do not think that is always so. Many of the entities we encounter are also on a journey and they too have lessons to learn. I sometimes think encounters like the one you mentioned are nothing more than some other person's etheric body trying to grasp and deal with the same energy you/we are.

Having said that I feel that when this sort of thing happens I try (not always successfully) to reach out a helping hand. It's an effort to help them control those energies and in return it helps me also control my own. With time you will find that there usually is more to these entities than just lust.

This is what made me uncomfortable, that I might have reacted in such a way to a being reaching out for help in the best way it knew how. In dreams, even in lucid dreams, my reactions tend to be a little extreme. I've annihilated beings because of the smallest slight. I've even wiped out entire star systems by aiming my hand to the sky and firing a beam because of rage that overtook me after a civilization enslaved a dear friend of mine, while also hiding his location so I couldn't free him. I'm hoping to react in more healthy ways in the future in these realms, instead of from a gut level all the time.

You are doing wonderfully well and have a natural instinct for what to do. Follow your instincts.

I'm glad you all think so. It's relieving to find people who can relate to what I'm going through. When I've even just mentioned watered down versions of what I've experienced (and only as dreams/physical phenomena) I've been told to seek professional help. I wonder what they would say if I told them that I shot out of my body into another plane of existence.  cheesy

I have had this happen and it is quite disconcerting. There are many helpers quite willing to come to your aide while you develop your talents. The energy they derive often has a sexual feel. I think that is a case of how our bodies interpret it rather than anything going on in our minds or any intent of theirs.

I was going to ask it what it's intentions were after it let me go, but I came back to my body before I got the chance.

The Lust Test that Lumaza and EscapeVelocity mentioned got me contemplating my lack of control over my sexual desire though. Although I've already been taking steps towards developing a more healthy relationship with sexual energy, this has really put my intentions into full gear. Today I started looking at images of women in bikinis, to observe my reaction and to try and get on top of it. With just having quit masturbation/porn a month or so ago, even just seeing these still images of beings I found sexually attractive was extremely difficult for me to not see as mere sexual objects. Through the observations that they were much more than their physical bodies, that I was letting these beast like urges rule over my free will, and especially seeing the similarity between me and that being overwhelmed with lust, I was able to bring myself into a state of awareness where I chose not to let lust take over.

I then moved from bikini images, to suggestive images, to nude images, then to video porn, and each were increasingly difficult, offering their own lessons about myself and others. I'm still working on this, and I can say for me this is WAY more difficult than surrendering to the unknown, which led to me AP'ing. Fighting against a lifetime of unhealthy attachment to physical pleasure takes everything I can muster in the moment. I plan on making a detailed post when I successfully apply the work I'm doing to one of these Lust Tests. As I'm staying intentionally celibate while I do the inner work I desperately need, I'm not sure what I could do to gain better control over my sexual urges than porn. The only other thing I think I could do that would better prepare me would be to go to some place like a strip club, to work on controlling myself in real time, although admittedly this seems a little extreme.

I can say for certain that even just what I've done so far has drastically changed my outlook on sexuality in a healthy way. Thanks you guys.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2018, 22:00:26 »

It sounds like you are a “natural” DB by seemingly being able to produce vibrational/energy senstaions rather easily. Not many people are able to do so and it is a “gift.” I would recommend you explore initiating those vibrations with a ramp timer and make it a habit to seek them out upon awakening in the a m or any time during the night. Set that intent so it becomes second nature each time you awaken to explore that area of consciousness. Ive also experienced myriad “malevolent” entitys that I assume are attracted to any deep seated fear I may posess so it is vital to fearlessly ignore them or think or say “be gone” and they will be on their merry way! I had this evil little fuckr whos named was “locutus” that manifested due to fear I was unaware I had,  but they have no actual power over you so there is nothing to fear. So again, I hope you fearlessly focus on manifesting your vibrations and it sounds like you are well on your way to many obe adventures. Congratulations dude!
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