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« on: September 07, 2002, 17:12:20 » |
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Great,you should gain more control over them as they start to get more frequent.I remember a few when I first started having them.They felt as though I was on auto pilot.
Your well on your way,Congrats!
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2002, 20:15:09 » |
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you probably had an obe. the first few i had i thought were dreams because i wasnt aware at the time. i just woke up w/ the memory of it. i was convinced it was a dream until i had my first clear obe. i woke up halfway through the projection this time and realized that this was just like the "dream" i thought i had before. every time my vision was so horrible that i thought my eyes may have been closed and i was using astral sight to see. i tried opening my eyes and was zapped back into my physiczl. i barely had any control over my movement. a good idea would be to do the hands ck. i've found that if you do any of the cks during your waking state that they will be easier to remember to do in any other situation. the trick is to actually ck during the waking state w/ the expected outcome unknown until the ck is over. you can't do any of the ck's and in the back of your mind expect the result to be that you are awake.
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General-Army
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2002, 21:59:26 » |
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Is there any way to make the Obes more frequent when you are sleeping?
Every man has their fear of dieing, whether it be of pain or not knowing where you are going, however, mine is the family, memories, and good times i leave behind.
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fredhedd
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2002, 22:41:16 » |
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i've found if you do some energy and trance work before you go to sleep that it will help w/ projections when you are asleep. maybe if you did that and then instead of trying to project you just went to sleep w/ a firm intention to project while you were asleep. i've found if i've done some energy and trance work before i go to sleep it increases activity when i m asleep. whether it be a lucid dream or a spontaneous projection. i'm curious to know if you have projected or not yet and why you would want to do it more when you are asleep. i know all of my practice will be towards conscious exit projections. i find the more i try to have them the more spontaneous ones i get when i m asleep.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2002, 23:43:06 » |
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I would wanna do it when im asleep, maybe a min b4 i fall asleep so im out of body for a couple of mins while my bodys sleeping. Whats the longest u can be out for?
Every man has their fear of dieing, whether it be of pain or not knowing where you are going, however, mine is the family, memories, and good times i leave behind.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2002, 00:34:23 » |
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the longest that you can be out for is until you wake up. if you are worreid about not getting any sleep while you are out, i believe that when you are out that your body is sleeping. the problem w/ losing consciousness is that if you project while you are asleep your double may also be asleep. i'm still not sure why you would want to project while you are asleep. if you give a good description of exactly waht you are shooting for maybe i can give some better advice. i believe there are more people on here that do the trance and energy work right before they go to sleep and then reassure themselves that they are going to wake up right as the projection starts. maybe this would more up your alley, but i believe the whole point of ad was for conscious exits. the really great thing about conscious exit is the ability to remember everything better. if you consciously project and then keep returning to your physical to download the memories you can stay out all night w/ full recall. obviously this would take a lot of practice but well worth the effort i'm sure. even if you dont physicically connect w/ yourself to dl the memories while out you can always use they keyword tek to help. hope this helps
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2002, 01:34:22 » |
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It would be kinda good to instead of wasting a third of my life, to be having an obe while my body sleeps. Is that possible to be out all night? I would wanna wonder streets, meet others, visit places i never would be able to, and go to the acousta records.
Every man has their fear of dieing, whether it be of pain or not knowing where you are going, however, mine is the family, memories, and good times i leave behind.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2002, 14:33:08 » |
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Last night, it was either a dream or an obe, i remember getting out of bed to get another fan, i only have one, but in my dream i had a bigger and green fan, then when i went back to lay down, i remember i saw my body. I didnt think much about it because i think it was one of those unconsiouce obes that i some how remembered. I had no control over it, and i wasnt even aware at the time i did it, i just remember waking up with that memory.
Every man has their fear of dieing, whether it be of pain or not knowing where you are going, however, mine is the family, memories, and good times i leave behind.
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