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« on: November 10, 2015, 11:47:21 »

Hello all again, I decided to make a new post today since the other one is sorta old by now and the topic of it its different from today's so I thought was better to write it in a new post, this night something weird happened 2 times to me and I would like opinion from people to help me analyze my experience so I know if it was me learning better how to project or so, I have a feeling it was a projection but I will explain now what happened.
First time was during the night, I was sleeping and I entered that state I usually entered before with weird noises in my head, maybe not as heavy or loud as my first experiences to try to project when I was in paralysis but it was still some of it, so anyways I "awaken" in that state turned to the side I was sleeping and I dicide I want to move and try to see a bit around me, I feel very heavy and slughish but I tell myself this wont stop me so I slowly lift myself up  as like when you do push ups but with the knees on the floor and I slowly turn to my girlfriends side to watch her, she was sleeping and I was able to touch the blanket and such but not able to really interact or call my girlfriend, then I woke up, okai now its the part of why I was questioning if it was a projection or not, first thing I noticed is the pillow I was sleeping with my head on in this state/projection was blue dark( thats the pillow cover that I sometimes use but it went for washing a few days ago) and in reality its white now, and in the projection/dream my girlfriend was turned to my side but in reality she was turned up almost to the other side.
Now for the second experience I had in the morning after my girlfriend had left the bed to go walk the dogs, I stayed a bit longer in bed and without realizing I fell asleep instead of just staying a few more minutes in bed lol... anyways what happened was this, I thought I was awake and moving towards the bed, I could hear some noises outside the room like the pets having fun( have 3 dogs) I was moving towards the door to open and say good morning  and give a kiss to my girlfriend( this is something that happens often in real too) and then suddenly before getting to the door I get pushed/teleported back to the bed and I start to feel the usual feelings I feel in sleep paralysis but again not as intense and I used to feel.
 I hear weird noises around me, I feel some weird feelings like things touching me around me like my butt area and similar and stuff, and the noises start to get louder a bit and some vibrations but I dicide to ignore everything this time and just focus on my intention, I believe I can get out of bed this time that I am getting better at this, so I was able to slowly get out of my body, think it was like that at least but I didnt look back to check if there was a body, the weird thing at start though was this, I was like in my vision bringing fragments of the blanket with me, I tend to have always the blanket on top of me even in my head too sometimes so was like when I got out of bed I brought parts of the blanket with me for a while and I could feel it wrapped around me for like 5 to 10 seconds before the feeling dissipated, I moved closer to the door of the bed room, and what I did was decide to trespass the door since it was closed like usually( girlfriend closes the door so the pets wont disturb me if I am still resting) I was still moving slow but a bit faster than before, and then I put my hand towards the door and the most amazing thing happens for me, I start to trespass the door slowly, I felt a bit of resistance but not to much, on the other side I didnt see the pets but I could see my girlfriend on the computer drinking her coffee and my vision got all fine maybe after I passed the door.
I tried to call my girlfriend  and such but she wouldn't hear me, I was able to pick her glass and started to knock it on the table to make her notice me but nothing, she just goes back to her stuff, then she decided to go downstairs for some reason , for a moment I thought she noticed me while I continued knocking on the table but no, she went downstairs and went inside the living room and I followed, I noticed the living room the sofas were missing, it was sorta empty a bit, to be honest now maybe more parts of the house felt emptier but I didn't pay attention to everything... so I noticed I couldn't call her so instead I called my spirit guide and then I started to feel a presence close by, I saw some strong light coming from upstairs but was moving slowly to me it seemed, so instead of making it come all the way to me I tried to meet with it too but before I could climb the stairs I then woke up and I then just decided to get out of bed and do my stuff and now I find myself writing all this while its still more vivid in my mind.
So my question is after explaining my experiences is if you think I was able to project or just a dream? I would think it is a projection since I was able to project my intentions, I knew I was in bed in reality and I was able to maintain myself focused all the time without losing sight of myself to a dream or so but I would like to hear opinions from others with more experience.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2015, 15:00:28 »

A dream is a projection. You just hallucinating while you do it.
The difference is in the degree of lucidity or awareness when your there.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2015, 17:23:35 »

A dream is a projection. You just hallucinating while you do it.
The difference is in the degree of lucidity or awareness when your there.

Thanks for your answer first Bluefirephoenix, I just also ask because some people talk about we dreaming about projecting and say its different from the actual projection, so from this I suppose I already achieved projection since I was aware it was a dream and was exploring this dream world always with the same level of awareness.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2015, 21:04:14 »

Thanks for your answer first Bluefirephoenix, I just also ask because some people talk about we dreaming about projecting and say its different from the actual projection, so from this I suppose I already achieved projection since I was aware it was a dream and was exploring this dream world always with the same level of awareness.
Bingo.  Smiley

See how much more free you are when you drop the labels?

Most people are much better at projecting than they even realize... usually having MANY more experiences than they are willing to otherwise believe they have, simply because they hold so tightly onto "labels".
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2015, 21:47:16 »

Would you expect everything to be as it is in a dream?
It wasn't so some reality fluctuations were present indicating its not a dream.
You were consciously doing what you wanted and not following a storyline typical of a dream.
Can you now answer the question you asked?
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 00:42:45 »

Yeah I understand it much better now, now its just a question of practicing to get better and learning methods and such from now on, I thank you all for your nice answers and helping me out was really nice of all of you,  also thanks so much Szaxx for your advices in my previous post, fear is always there but I think I got much better at ignoring it or turning it into something good if I feel it there since in the end it is all my own fears so its up to me to face them too, I can say I got much better at the weird feelings in my body like things are touching me and stuff, I just ignore them mostly and focus on what I intend to do and it disappears fast after that, I am also reading more now about it from different sources since I want to get better at it and learn more, I will keep you guys posted also will be reading some forum posts from now on, there is much to learn but maybe can help someone someday too I hope, have a nice day you all and see you all soon again I hope take care Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 12:02:19 »

Hello all again, I decided to make a new post today since the other one is sorta old by now and the topic of it its different from today's so I thought was better to write it in a new post, this night something weird happened 2 times to me and I would like opinion from people to help me analyze my experience so I know if it was me learning better how to project or so, I have a feeling it was a projection but I will explain now what happened.
First time was during the night, I was sleeping and I entered that state I usually entered before with weird noises in my head, maybe not as heavy or loud as my first experiences to try to project when I was in paralysis but it was still some of it, so anyways I "awaken" in that state turned to the side I was sleeping and I dicide I want to move and try to see a bit around me, I feel very heavy and slughish but I tell myself this wont stop me so I slowly lift myself up  as like when you do push ups but with the knees on the floor and I slowly turn to my girlfriends side to watch her, she was sleeping and I was able to touch the blanket and such but not able to really interact or call my girlfriend, then I woke up, okai now its the part of why I was questioning if it was a projection or not, first thing I noticed is the pillow I was sleeping with my head on in this state/projection was blue dark( thats the pillow cover that I sometimes use but it went for washing a few days ago) and in reality its white now, and in the projection/dream my girlfriend was turned to my side but in reality she was turned up almost to the other side.
Now for the second experience I had in the morning after my girlfriend had left the bed to go walk the dogs, I stayed a bit longer in bed and without realizing I fell asleep instead of just staying a few more minutes in bed lol... anyways what happened was this, I thought I was awake and moving towards the bed, I could hear some noises outside the room like the pets having fun( have 3 dogs) I was moving towards the door to open and say good morning  and give a kiss to my girlfriend( this is something that happens often in real too) and then suddenly before getting to the door I get pushed/teleported back to the bed and I start to feel the usual feelings I feel in sleep paralysis but again not as intense and I used to feel.
 I hear weird noises around me, I feel some weird feelings like things touching me around me like my butt area and similar and stuff, and the noises start to get louder a bit and some vibrations but I dicide to ignore everything this time and just focus on my intention, I believe I can get out of bed this time that I am getting better at this, so I was able to slowly get out of my body, think it was like that at least but I didnt look back to check if there was a body, the weird thing at start though was this, I was like in my vision bringing fragments of the blanket with me, I tend to have always the blanket on top of me even in my head too sometimes so was like when I got out of bed I brought parts of the blanket with me for a while and I could feel it wrapped around me for like 5 to 10 seconds before the feeling dissipated, I moved closer to the door of the bed room, and what I did was decide to trespass the door since it was closed like usually( girlfriend closes the door so the pets wont disturb me if I am still resting) I was still moving slow but a bit faster than before, and then I put my hand towards the door and the most amazing thing happens for me, I start to trespass the door slowly, I felt a bit of resistance but not to much, on the other side I didnt see the pets but I could see my girlfriend on the computer drinking her coffee and my vision got all fine maybe after I passed the door.
I tried to call my girlfriend  and such but she wouldn't hear me, I was able to pick her glass and started to knock it on the table to make her notice me but nothing, she just goes back to her stuff, then she decided to go downstairs for some reason , for a moment I thought she noticed me while I continued knocking on the table but no, she went downstairs and went inside the living room and I followed, I noticed the living room the sofas were missing, it was sorta empty a bit, to be honest now maybe more parts of the house felt emptier but I didn't pay attention to everything... so I noticed I couldn't call her so instead I called my spirit guide and then I started to feel a presence close by, I saw some strong light coming from upstairs but was moving slowly to me it seemed, so instead of making it come all the way to me I tried to meet with it too but before I could climb the stairs I then woke up and I then just decided to get out of bed and do my stuff and now I find myself writing all this while its still more vivid in my mind.
So my question is after explaining my experiences is if you think I was able to project or just a dream? I would think it is a projection since I was able to project my intentions, I knew I was in bed in reality and I was able to maintain myself focused all the time without losing sight of myself to a dream or so but I would like to hear opinions from others with more experience.
To me, this is very definitely a projection! Wink I say well done and good luck to you. Smiley

Odd question, but what's your sleep schedule? Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 13:58:25 »

To me, this is very definitely a projection! Wink I say well done and good luck to you. Smiley

Odd question, but what's your sleep schedule? Cheesy

Thank you FuzzyQuills Smiley and lol my sleeping schedule is not always the same also depends of my girlfriend time she goes to sleep and such, she usually reads before sleeping since she cant do usually otherwise and the light disturbs me a bit and movements not to say the 3 dogs in the room moving and making noise while we awake Smiley but I would say I usually go to sleep around 10 or 11 pm and wake up between 6 to 8 am lol.

Also to give a short update I tried a new technique this night and worked very well... seems its much easier to me to project after I slept some hours and then when I wake up I dont move or open my eyes, just go back to sleep but focused on my intent, doesnt take 5 seconds maybe and I am projecting already... the episode was short this time again but I was in bed, lifted myself feeling sorta heavy pushed towards the bed, then I tried to go check on my girlfriend, she was turned the wrong way from reality in the projection but I was paying attention to details anyways, I felt I was getting less "heavy"(pulled maybe better term) too the more far away I was from my starting position but well I woke up afterwards... I am now trying various projection techniques too because I would love to do this from more ways than just my sleeping times and from lucid dreams, also I don't experience the paralysis for long would like to meet it again and try from there lol, also I felt the vibrations very strongly just once as I said and weird astral winds in my ears 2 times but not been feeling those since I spoke about them too...

So now I am trying the rope technique, I felt something sometimes but lost focus on the way due to the pets making noise or similar or just falling to sleep while trying to do it lol... then done also the Hammock technique which seemed to have some results... either way I am sure I will get better with practice and time, I want to try many techniques with time too see which fits me best, as for now what I notice I am getting better at is the breathing and also can now feel my body heavy and starting to disassociate with my physical body, the noise in my head gets lot louder and I feel some sort of deep inside my head but before more I either lose focus or when I felt something more was about to come have bad luck and a dog barks in the house or a car comes , a phone rings or similar stuff, I feel like I need a sound Bunker lol Smiley
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