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« on: December 09, 2015, 05:09:40 »

Hey guys I'm slightly new to this and been practicing trying to make AP happen. I guess what my question is can someone who is experienced in APing to come "help" someone else out of their body that has no experience
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 06:24:04 »

Welcome to the Pulse jwb21!

It is possible an experienced projector could help "pull" you out...but there are some factors that make it very unlikely. First, in order to find someone when you are projecting, it really helps to have some prior rapport with them (friend, family, you at least know them); this allows you to "home in" on their energy signature. A mailing address just doesn't do it. So that means having somebody you know who is already a fairly proficient projector or finding a really talented one. Second, your level of shall we say, energetic development, will dictate how ready you are for the experience and how much difficulty there might be in getting you out; also, whether you would even remember the experience. There can also be unexpected issues...

As an example, the only time I ever tried this was to visit a co-worker and try to pull him out one night. I made it to his bedroom and he was in bed with his girlfriend. They were both asleep, but his girlfriends' astral body was wide awake and sitting up looking at me with surprise. My intent was so strongly focused on him that it didn't even occur to me to interact with her (thinking clearly in the Astral early on is a whole different issue!). I called out to him mentally and his astral self/subconscious responded with something I hadn't expected; he said, "Leave me alone, I'm trying to get some sleep here!" I called back, trying one more time and he said, "No! It's late and I want to sleep!" I started losing focus by then, flew up through the ceiling and eventually awakened. Neither of them remembered anything but my description of some oddities in the room confirmed the experience for me.

I should have run off with the girl...stupid, stupid... cheesy

My advice is to spend some time here reading up on techniques and anything that catches your interest to get yourself thinking in more of a Non-Physical way of looking at this practice. Some simple, daily meditation is good to start training your mind for the control that will be required.

Another thing to do is to start a Dream Journal and work on remembering your dreams and what they can teach you. Your dreams are the first place to look; if you have had a strong Lucid Dream, where you became aware that you were dreaming then this is a perfectly valid form of Projection (re-focusing your conscious awareness away from the Physical Reality and into one of many possible Non-Physical Realities); also consider the mindset you have within your dreams, how it can vary and understand that this initial mental capacity is something you will learn to exercise and strengthen.

Also, it appears from the "reliable" literature and enough of my own experiences that there are guides and helpers in the next dimensions who are ready and able to help "pull" you out when the time is right. Many people have reported feeling "helping hands" lifting them by the feet or legs; I felt this once myself. So, respectfully asking for their help doesn't hurt. One caveat to this is that even though they monitor all of us as we try to explore the Non-Physical, they mostly expect us to figure it out by ourselves, thus the more rewarding the knowledge gained.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 06:24:04 »

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 09:47:30 »

That was interesting EscapeVelocity.  I enjoyed reading that.   It shows that it is easy for something to go wrong.   Things that you would not imagine to happen would happen.    I think it is best to learn to ap yourself otherwise you are depending on people to pull you out.   
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2015, 22:17:20 »

Thanks guys!

I had an interest in this since I was young and I'm 24 now and only recently decided to start taking this seriously after reading stories and articles on it. For me its like trying to learn a whole new language on your own without even knowing what it is your trying to learn (if that even makes any sense). For now tho I shall keep practicing and learning new techniques. Although recently when I was in this meditative state I recall drifting off into a dream state only to become consciously aware for a brief moment I was dreaming, and then my head started buzzing and it felt like I was "high", not exactly what smoking marijuana feels like but it felt somewhat similar, and trust me there was none of that in my system at the time or for awhile. The noise inside my head wasn't exactly the high pitched whining sound I hear about when someone is about to project but it most definitely did not sound normal. Not entirely sure if what I felt was some sort of early stage of the whole experience or something else entirely but it most certainly felt "different"

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2015, 22:33:46 »

Although recently when I was in this meditative state I recall drifting off into a dream state only to become consciously aware for a brief moment I was dreaming, and then my head started buzzing and it felt like I was "high", not exactly what smoking marijuana feels like but it felt somewhat similar, and trust me there was none of that in my system at the time or for awhile.

It is pretty common to feel high when you get into the deep meditation. There are two parts to it; a kind of a body stone effect which seems to be mostly a result of the onset of sleep paralysis.

I also find there is a mental portion, although, this state is far more pronounced for me on waking. If you can manage to not move around too much and sink back into sleep there is a very tangible feeling of being on the borderline of consciousness.

It is really difficult to describe that feeling but it is very similar to Marijuana. There have been a few occasions where I have actually just vaporized some Marijuana and it induces that borderline state. With a subtle application of the mind on the energy body (I can't really describe or understand how I do this yet) I have induced a rapid procession of mental and physical euphoria so intense that I felt like I had to stop.

I have come to think that this intense feeling is a sense of resistance caused by the juxtaposition of being in a "wide awake" state body wise but producing a rapid shift of mental focus. I can induce it in my chair right now but I have never been able to push it far enough to fully cross over.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 23:23:31 »

Although recently when I was in this meditative state I recall drifting off into a dream state only to become consciously aware for a brief moment I was dreaming, and then my head started buzzing and it felt like I was "high", not exactly what smoking marijuana feels like but it felt somewhat similar, and trust me there was none of that in my system at the time or for awhile. The noise inside my head wasn't exactly the high pitched whining sound I hear about when someone is about to project but it most definitely did not sound normal. Not entirely sure if what I felt was some sort of early stage of the whole experience or something else entirely but it most certainly felt "different"
Hell jwb21 and Welcome!

 Check out this thread on "Exit Symptoms". You will see that what you experienced above is a "signpost" of an approaching shift in consciousness.
 There are some pretty bizarre things that can be experienced during a exit/shift. Bizarre sounds definitely included.
 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html
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