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« on: May 12, 2014, 20:53:06 »



I think I've discovered why all these years of trying to Astral Project i’ve been failing and the realization makes me want to thrust my palm through my forehead. Go with me for a second on this and tell me what you all think.

I’ve been under the impression that i’ve always been trying to GET OUT of my body. Like my Astral body or Light body was inside of me all the time. So i spent all this time trying to GET OUT of something i was never supposed to leave in the first place!

The idea is that all of these different dimensions are all around us at the same time, RIGHT NOW, as i type this. Only i can’t experience them 100% because most of my attention is focused in the physical because this is where i’m meant to direct most of my focus. So that makes me think, my Astral Body very well has a life of it’s own, it does it’s own thing providing me energy and information that I NEED to function. Giving me those “Ohhhhh wow” moments that always seems to be an insight from another perspective.

So, that being said, that would mean that all of these different forms of ourselves which are higher levels of frequency all exist simultaneously and separately. They’re still US, as our primary focus shifts to that frequency we see this form as ourselves because it is US, it’s just us vibrating on another frequency. Their purpose is to filter and push levels of energy our body can handle down the chain (Physical Dimension) and our purpose here in the physical is to relay our experiences (love, right, wrong, good, bad) back up the ladder to the higher frequencies which pushes it up to the source.

I think this is proven in people having experiences of being in an almost god like state or “God head”. That level of “Knowing” like the universe was created at your fingertips and you know it more intimately than the back of your palm and you just know that this is who you are. Or when you project into a lower plane like the Astral and you feel much less knowledgeable than the higher frequency projection, however you still feel like this is who you are.

So this raises a the question in my mind, one i have a feeling i’ll be answering very soon. How do i shift my awareness into these other frequencies of myself living simultaneously? I feel so stupid for thinking i was “LEAVING” anything. I’m not leaving my body, none of us ever do until it expires. How are we shifting our consciousness? I almost feel like it’s as simple as looking left or right now when i think of it in that light. I’m brimming with excitement to see how well this realization serves me. I hope it serves you all as well.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 08:29:32 »

Yes indeed, all the worlds and dimensions in the multiverse are distinguished by frequency and not by distance. Our spirits exist simultaneously in many dimensions and parallel realities. The part that is connected to the physical avatars has set certain goals to experienced in this reality where the density of the energies and the perception of time space factors enable the spirit to make certain realizations while limited in perception. But these physical limitations are necessary. Only when the part of the spirit has expanded enough (risen in frequency) through knowledge, etc, it starts to question these limitations and seeks ways to shed these barriers. However, you are correct by thinking that our spirit does not leave the body as we here understand it. When the biological vehicle is disabled, then the spirit tunes out completely from this reality. There is no near and far between dimensions. It is a matter of simple adjustment of frequencies to tune to certain worlds. The only thing while physically oriented here, we need to consciously train ourselves to remain aware while the physical senses are shutting down, in order our transmitter (brain) to translate our experience, so that they can be remembered by the avatars. And this is where all the various techniques come to play. But other than that our spirits as we speak are experiencing all kinds of higher frequency realities. I and APs where I meet people still living, and in the beginning I did not understand if they are still alive, how come I can communicate with them as spirits. In some cases especially with mu sister later she would recall these experiences in forms of dreams, because she does not practice AP, but she has confirmed details about our adventures in the astral without me telling her anything. Another proof of the fact that we don't leave our physical bodies is remote viewing. How can we explain why sometimes we can be aware with our physical surroundings and have fully functional physical senses, but at the same time perceive the astral? Because all wee do is tuning into whatever location we need and experience it that way, as suppose to lets say fly all the way to the moon they way we would do here. We can certainly experience the flight part, but these movements are within a given reality. And even then if we want to we can just think of a location and be teleported so to speak, without the need to walk or transport ourselves the way we are used to here. It is a matter of perception and us carrying the mindset of this reality because this is the only way we know.
many people think that AP is dangerous because if you go too far you can brake the connection with your physical body, but this is a wrong perception, because you don't travel in distance, just in frequencies. Your body is never left like an empty shell. That's why you will always snap back if your hearing senses detect a loud noise. Your body will wake up, because your physical senses are activated and that tunes you automatically out of the other frequencies.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 08:29:32 »

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 07:10:18 »


I think I've discovered why all these years of trying to Astral Project i’ve been failing and the realization makes me want to thrust my palm through my forehead. Go with me for a second on this and tell me what you all think.

I’ve been under the impression that i’ve always been trying to GET OUT of my body. Like my Astral body or Light body was inside of me all the time. So i spent all this time trying to GET OUT of something i was never supposed to leave in the first place!

The idea is that all of these different dimensions are all around us at the same time, RIGHT NOW, as i type this. Only i can’t experience them 100% because most of my attention is focused in the physical because this is where i’m meant to direct most of my focus. So that makes me think, my Astral Body very well has a life of it’s own, it does it’s own thing providing me energy and information that I NEED to function. Giving me those “Ohhhhh wow” moments that always seems to be an insight from another perspective.

So, that being said, that would mean that all of these different forms of ourselves which are higher levels of frequency all exist simultaneously and separately. They’re still US, as our primary focus shifts to that frequency we see this form as ourselves because it is US, it’s just us vibrating on another frequency. Their purpose is to filter and push levels of energy our body can handle down the chain (Physical Dimension) and our purpose here in the physical is to relay our experiences (love, right, wrong, good, bad) back up the ladder to the higher frequencies which pushes it up to the source.

I think this is proven in people having experiences of being in an almost god like state or “God head”. That level of “Knowing” like the universe was created at your fingertips and you know it more intimately than the back of your palm and you just know that this is who you are. Or when you project into a lower plane like the Astral and you feel much less knowledgeable than the higher frequency projection, however you still feel like this is who you are.

So this raises a the question in my mind, one i have a feeling i’ll be answering very soon. How do i shift my awareness into these other frequencies of myself living simultaneously? I feel so stupid for thinking i was “LEAVING” anything. I’m not leaving my body, none of us ever do until it expires. How are we shifting our consciousness? I almost feel like it’s as simple as looking left or right now when i think of it in that light. I’m brimming with excitement to see how well this realization serves me. I hope it serves you all as well.
Makes complete sense when you stumble upon it yourself, doesn't it?
It just one of those things where you can be told it a thousand times, yet it doesn't actually WORK for you until you discover it on your own.  Smiley

A lot of things about the non-physical work like that.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 08:21:08 »

I will second what Xanth wrote: these realizations are so much more powerful and meaningful when we gain them mainly through our own efforts.

So, that said...GREAT insight Lostlight!!! It is just a matter of looking to the left, or looking to the right...and finding that subtle mindset that provides the shift of focus. With intent and practice, it becomes easier.

I just wish I was a 'natural'...maybe with time and effort, I'll become one. wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 08:45:55 »

 These are things that you can tell people until you are blue in the face. But until they can see it for themselves, it would never be their truth.

 Tell someone on the street this and they think your a "nut job".  Come to a Forum like this where we all become privy to this info at some time or another and you have opened up a great conversation.  wink
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 11:19:51 »

These things seem to go in cycles and fashions. Years ago, it was fashionable to view projection as "soul travel", where an essence left the body.

Today, the idea of projection as a shift of focus is getting a lot of traction.

I also hold this view. To me the idea that distance and time are meaningless makes the idea of traveling likewise meaningless... it is only logical to me that we don't really go anyplace.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 18:45:26 »

Right, to take a page from Tom Campbell, does your character in the world of warcraft actually travel anywhere?

No, because it's only data.  It's only a number(s) in a system that changes.

Remember that what you see in a video game is only a graphical representation of the lines of code (data) running the game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 15:53:48 »

Many of the older methods actually perpetuate the belief that we are indeed exiting our bodies. Hell, they're even called "exit" techniques. Furthermore, many of my own projections reinforce the idea. I would "roll out", land on the floor,stand up and look at my body. I've even rolled out so fast that I appeared to be plastered on the wall (feet pointed towards the ceiling).

I went this alone for almost 13 years without reading any literature so the only things I had to go by were the common phrases like out of body and exiting. It wasn't until I found this site that I realized many of my projections didn't involve an exit technique. I would just end up somewhere with my full awareness.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 03:48:46 »

I'm bring this back to the top as it's simply a brilliant read!!! Enjoy
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2018, 05:22:17 »

Astralzombie ... one of the members who also seemed to vanish so suddenly, which is sad as I liked reading his/her posts. Brings back memories.  cool wink

This topic seems more to deal with the Phasing experience. And Tom Campbell's theories. I've read his book and also seen lots of his YT vids over the years. It's always a pleasure to listen to this man.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2018, 10:33:33 »

Yeah, we never did really figure out what happened to AZ.  Nice guy.  Hope nothing bad happened.  :/
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2018, 11:17:46 »

Yeah, we never did really figure out what happened to AZ.  Nice guy.  Hope nothing bad happened.  :/
AZ, aka It'sallbad, was a good friend of mine as well. We talked often outside the AP Forum. A relocation of sorts was what caused him to go silent here. He loved this Forum and all it's members.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2018, 11:29:07 »

I'm bring this back to the top as it's simply a brilliant read!!! Enjoy
Since we are bringing back "Gems" from the past, I wanted to bring back this fantastic post by Frank Kepple, made years ago as well. It should help those that are new to the Forum understand what we speak of when we talk about Phasing and OBEs.

 "Phasing is a term first coined by Monroe which developed thus...

Quote Monroe:

"One of the Knowns emerging through repeated examination was that moving into or out-of-body no longer had for me what could be called "movement." Experienced subjects in the Institute laboratory had reported this many times but it was not a part of my personal pattern until I began what I called the "quick-switch" method. Thereafter what happened was a fading out of one consciousness into another. To describe it as "going out-of-phase" seemed more accurate and satisfied better my left brain classification system."

Phasing is a means of projecting consciousness within the Astral realms. Whether you project via traditional obe practice, or through the more modern-day Phasing approach you still project within the same Astral realms. All that changes is the method used to get there. Like, fly to New York on an aircraft, or go by ocean liner, you still end up in the same New York.

As with Physical transportation systems, there are benefits coupled with disadvantages of each. The boat takes longer, but you can relax, take a walk, have a swim, sleep in a comfortable bed, enjoy sumptuous meals, etc. By contrast the plane is cramped and uncomfortable, the food sucks, and so forth, but it's darned quick and relatively cheap.

So, you can take the traditional Energy Raising approach, and have tremendous fun igniting various energy centres (Chakras); enjoy all the weird and wonderful sensations of having crackling waves of energy running up and down your body; creating psi balls; moving objects with your thoughts, and so on. Not only that, you can take this energy and create a body double of yourself from etherial matter; project a copy of your consciousness into it; and go wandering around the real-time zone.

As I say, all great fun and interesting to do. But it's darned tricky to accomplish for the average person. Not only that, while it may be fun to an accomplished projector having waves of cracking energy flowing through them; or looking down on their physical selves whilst lying on the bedroom ceiling: ordinary people normally get scared out of their wits just by the thought of doing such a thing.

Phasing offers a simpler approach as the technique is aligned very much with bodily actions and/or sensations that most individuals already do while performing other actions. Becoming completely engrossed in a movie or a book, is very much like the Focus 10 state, for example. Mildly drifting off listening to classical music is like Focus 3. As such, it is all very much easier to explain.

Not only that, people gain confidence knowing they can make progress with feelings they are already familiar with. And they are reassured by the fact they are not going to suddenly find themselves bouncing off the ceiling thinking they just died, or whatever.

The big disadvantage is the Phasing experience is a whole lot more restrictive. Barring the odd exception, the only place you ever get to go, or thing you get to do, is to project within the Astral realms.

Now, for me, that is all I ever want to do. Because, on the Astral, is where all the fun stuff lies. However, there is a MAJOR pitfall: all the "fun stuff" can only be tapped into by knowing and adhering to the strict ground-rules that apply. Which is ever so easy to say, but so darned difficult to perform at the time.

In summary, I would say that Phasing offers a person a relatively quick and simple way of projecting their conscious awareness within the Astral realms (if, like me, that is all you really want to do). But there is the danger a person may project within the Astral completely unprepared for what comes next.

The traditional approach seems to be taken more slowly, and with a far greater emphasis placed on the actual Spiritual teaching side of things. To me, this more prepares a person for "normal" life on the Astral. A lot of the teaching talks about being a good person, being non-violent and generally cooperating with others. I note, though, that people through the ages have taken this to mean only Spiritually pure people, and the like, can have access to the Astral. Which is not true.

You can be as evil as they come and the Astral will welcome you with open arms. However, people who cannot keep their emotions and thoughts in check will naturally not get past Focus 22. The reason for this not because there is some Astral police force preventing you, but simply because Focus 22 is the first realm where thought equals direct action.

A violent/aggressive/highly-fearful person will simply become imprisoned by the circumstances of their own making. Which is a vile and disgusting thing to witness. But, ultimately, you brush it off realising that it's all part of the human learning-curve in the grand scheme of things.

Yours,
Frank"

 Frank is another member here that is truly missed. Xanth did a fantastic job though assembling all Frank's post into one PDF.
 I have many of what I consider "Gems" that I have saved separately on my computer for moments just like this.  smiley
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2018, 21:18:49 »

In my view (and partly experience) the phasing brings you directly to the Astral.

The energetic OBE (vibrations and all the circus) does too, of course, but you can also get to or stay closer to the physical / 'etheric' level, which is good for validations or creating effects such as telekinesis or sounds (so-called astral leaks) into the physical.
Sylvan Muldoon wrote extensively about his experiments with this, when he moved things or created 'rappings' in his room.
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