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« on: February 13, 2017, 18:31:18 »

I wish to astral project and I have been trying for years but I still have not achieved it, I wish to get into the akashic records for knowledge.
I stay still on my bed and think but all I get are swaying and stuff
I try to sway out but that does not work.
Is there a way to tell what form of thing I need to do.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 22:36:42 »

When you are laying there what are you thinking about?
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 01:31:49 »

In the following link of The Astral Pulse you'll find a Topic with very useful Books to read.

Books of Lucid Dreaming - Astral Projection - OBE (Out of Body Experiences)

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html

Start by learning to LUCID DREAM, which is Astral Projection but starting from a normal Dream; that's the BEST way to learn to Astral Project as is the LESS SCARY one, (the symptoms experienced on the method you are trying which is Direct Astral Projection from Awaken are NOT easy to handle as they cause Scaring and those symptoms are better learned and handled by experiencing them in either Lucid Dreams or False Awakenings that are also part of Lucid Dreams); as you'll read in the books, you need to learn to CONTROL your EMOTIONS and also to CHANGE certain elements in your life (mentioned very well in Letitia M. Kimball's book) to be able to do it regularly. Is important that you READ this books, for you to be prepared for what awaits in the Astral/Dream Worlds/Realms as for what you'll read and also experience First Hand, FEAR will be tested in various/varied ways as is one of the filters to prevent Non Ready people from reaching what's there, and for that CONTROL over EMOTIONS is required (here in the Awaken World called Earth and also in the Dream/Astral Worlds/Realms).

Also, if the Direct Astral Projection is somehow similar to the WILD (Wake Initiated Lucid Dream), then, the process is NOT AT ALL completely Awaken/Conscious, as there is ALWAYS a moment when the Brain activates the Sleep/Dream process, but, as the necessary Brain chemicals are active and also the Awareness/Attention of the person is activated, the person realizes that he/she is in the transition of the sleeping/dreaming process and activates/triggers Lucidity in that moment but ALREADY IN A DREAM/ASTRAL WORLD/REALM, and not in the Physical World, (is very naive/gullible for someone to think that he/she and his/her limited consciousness brain functions are faster than the system that controls them and that provides access to the Astral/Dream Worlds/Realms, simply the system is faster than any human being so a person won't know when that transition occurs but only after it occurs either in the beginning of the transition process in a location with dark/obscure colors or in a location inside a Dream/Astral location in one of those Worlds/Realms). When somebody achieves his/her Lucid Dreams and start achieving some WILD ones, then will understand what I mention here.

Start by reading the First Book mentioned there "Wake Up In Your Dreams - Conscious Dream Training Manual" by Dr Rory Mac Sweeney, that he has shared for FREE, which is THE BEST BOOK for Lucid Dreaming (and thru it for Astral Projection) that I've Read, as it contains in it EVERYTHING of what's necessary to Learn the Exact Processes to achieve it and in a VERY CONCISE way. You can check additional information about him and the download link of the Book in the link below.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/wake_up_in_your_dreams_by_dr_rory_mac_sweeney-t46897.0.html

Read also (simultaneously) the Book "Keys To Successful OBE" by Letitia M. Kimball, as in it she as Woman and Mother shares very Important Tips to be able to achieve Lucid Dreaming (Astral Projection) and also to improve your waking Life (you'll need that as that's one of the causes why people can't Lucid Dream or Astral Project easily or at all). You can access the download links of the Book in the specific link below in the Topic of the books.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html;msg364867#msg364867

As I mentioned to Mr. Ryan Tasker, what's contained in his Great Book "My Astral Projection Truth - What Is Astral Projection And How To Do It!", listed as number 5 in the List, which he so Generously shared for FREE, the methods that he mentions in his book need to be combined (in my opinion and according to my experience) with the WBTB (Wake Back To Bed) methodology in order for them to work (at least for not so natural/easy Astral Projectors /Lucid Dreamers), as for what you'll read in Dr Rory Mac Sweeney's book the WBTB process produces/activates in a natural way in the Brain the chemical processes that are required for acquiring/triggering Lucidity during a normal Dream, which triggers the start of a Lucid Dream (/Astral Projection). This also applies to the instructions contained in the Topic "The Astral Blueprint" of The Astral Pulse forums.

Some of those books can be found on PDF format on Internet, but you'll have to search them; for the other ones in the Topic the download link (or link to read online) is provided as they're Free.

I tried to place first in the list the ones that are more Helpful and also when possible the ones that are Free, so try to find and read the ones that are First in the list. Even if it's listed as number 12 in the List, the book of Oliver Fox called Astral Projection: A Record Of Out-Of-The-Body Experiences is also a great book to read first as is very friendly to read, so IS VERY MUCH RECOMMENDED to read along/simultaneously with the previously mentioned books and the other ones in the referenced Topic (it can be found in PDF format on Internet).

In the Topic of the Books you'll also find some Links to other interesting information, such as the following ones:

Becoming Lucid in Dreams - Movie Scenes Of How It Is Like

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/becoming_lucid_in_dreams_movie_scenes_of_how_it_is_like-t46906.0.html

Flying in Lucid Dreams - Videos Of How It Is Like

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/flying_in_lucid_dreams_videos_of_how_it_is_like-t46903.0.html

My best regards.


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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 02:23:48 »

When you try to sway do you get excited.   If so that will end it or any other emotion.   If you sway too late that can end it as well.   It needs to be done quickly and get away from your body.    When I relax for an hour and try to get out of my body I often do not succeed.    I find I have to allow at least two hours.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 02:54:46 »

When you try to sway do you get excited.   If so that will end it or any other emotion.   If you sway too late that can end it as well.   It needs to be done quickly and get away from your body.    When I relax for an hour and try to get out of my body I often do not succeed.    I find I have to allow at least two hours.

You Sway (Turn or Move) when you are in the TRANSITION, which means that your body and brain are already ASLEEP, and when your Consciousness (the energy being with consciousness that you are and that is connected with the physical body) realizes that is in that transition (its Lucidity is triggered) then IT/"YOU" REALIZES/FEELS/SUSPECTS that is in a different situation (and location) than the physical (where it was when it went to sleep and also to the physical where it/you develops its activities and also to the physical that it/you remembers from its past memories as things look and feel different that in the normal physical world called Earth), and is then that when you decide to move is that energy being (which contains your Consciousness) the one that moves and the process of Astral Travel (Lucid Dreaming) starts, but it ALWAYS starts from the body and brain being asleep with the difference that your effort in keeping your consciousness/awareness active will somehow (in a determinate moment after being asleep) trigger/activate the Lucidity/Awareness either in the Transition of the Dream/Sleep which is a Dream/Astral place dark while the system loads the simulation process in a dark place (whoever manages that system and your life/existence creates those simulations and they start dark and with little resolution/definition I believe to save energy) or already in a Dream/Astral location/place with the simulation already loaded in a place with light (or a dark one if it is simulating a night environment or if that place simply is dark or is dark at that moment like on the World called Earth, and when the energy being of consciousness that is you is Aware/Lucid then the resolution/definition enhances and its enhancement depends on the level of Awareness/Lucidity that the Lucid Dreamer/Astral Traveler has).

When performing the WBTB (Wake Back To Bed) method, is NOT necessary to stay awake for a long time (generally will take around 30 minutes or even less, depending if wanting to achieve a DILD Dream Initiated Lucid Dream or a WILD Wake Initiated Lucid Dream, and in some cases a little more as everybody is different, but it should be less than 1 hour as the body is supposedly tired as it's at the early morning and 2 or 3 more sleep cycles should be sleep), as the body and brain will fall asleep (in all cases even if a thread of consciousness/awareness seems to be present, but is not like that as the brain falls asleep as well as the body and only if it falls asleep after the body is that you hear your body snore but eventually the brain and mind gets asleep), and then, the Brain chemistry that has been activated by trying to keep slightly awake (during the return to sleep when you make an effort and try to keep a thread of consciousness that WILL eventually fall ASLEEP) and also for the time awaken during the WBTB (going to the bathroom, drinking a little of water, and reading a book with light low or in an electronic tablet with low light in the screen, but NEVER eating food and NEVER seeing Television and NEVER turning lights on as that affects the process) causes the sudden trigger/activation of awareness/lucidity/consciousness as a result of that brain chemistry being activated (but is important not activate it much Not to cause insomnia), as somehow the activation of the lucidity/awareness has been BY DESIGN tied to the brain chemistry functions that normally DRUG and turn off the Memory Functions when the body and brain are sleeping (and activate them when the body and brain are awake during waking activities) and that as a result of the WBTB method is "forced" into working in a different way by helping with the proper brain chemistry resultant of the WBTB to induce the trigger/activation of the Critical and Memory Functions of the brain causing/helping/assisting consciousness into acquiring/regaining Lucidity/Awareness. READ THE BOOKS as many of this it's explained in Detail in some of them. Below there is a link to some additional information and analysis regarding the WBTB method/process, as IT IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO ACHIEVE LUCID DREAMING (ASTRAL PROJECTION) at night, and it's same logic applies to those who practice naps (at 2 or 3 PM when some REM cycles occur in the brain) with a certain amount of tiredness with the difference that there is not need to previous sleep as the REM cycles happening at that hour and the necessary tiredness help in the process (those who practice it that way are the ones who know it, I mostly know about the process at night with the WBTB and can confirm that IS EFFECTIVE/EFFICACIOUS, but must me mentioned that naps affect the WBTB when practiced in the same day/night as they alter the sleep cycles of that same night, but everyone should experience with that and find what works for each one).

WBTB - Wake Back To Bed - Some Ideas and Analysis

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html;msg364868#msg364868

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 03:09:19 »

hey Ereus1 ...

I like what AstralSuzy said to you. She is keeping it simple, and that is important when starting out.

I can add a couple of things to what she said. First, when I started out, I read William Buhlman's second book and had my first OBE about 40 days after that. You do not have to buy his book, because he provides a lot of FREE stuff. Here is a one-page summary of his primary suggestions (if interested):

http://tinyurl.com/zq7w6vv

If I could emphasize only one thing, I think that it is really important to select a technique and stick with it for 30 to 60 days. You are essentially re-training your subconscious. I (myself) used two affirmations and the target technique combined with an early morning wake up, when I had my 1st OBE. If you want to understand the early morning wake up, it is described here (FREE) on Buhlman's site. He also shares affirmations and many other techniques.

www.astralinfo.org/astral-projection-methods/ (techniques)

Finally, this may be against etiquette for the AP forum, but I am going to suggest leaving PhaPriSpa's post alone for now. It is too much information for most beginners, and you can come back to it later if needed or interested. I mention this as I would hate to see you sidetracked in thinking that you have read and learn all that stuff before your first out of body experience. You can keep it simple. It is my experience also that the less you think, the better your chances of an experience beyond the physical body. When you end up going out of body, your biological brain actually needs to be asleep with the rest of your body (and you are using your mind or consciousness). A good technique will help you engage your mind (consciousness) while the body and brain go to sleep.

Good luck.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 13:22:41 »

I sway really easily, like within moments of lying down, I just have to move my eyes a bit or think about it and I sway, I just cannot get out of m body no matter what i try.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 18:07:40 »

I sway really easily, like within moments of lying down, I just have to move my eyes a bit or think about it and I sway, I just cannot get out of m body no matter what i try.

Set your alarm to wake you up in the middle of the night and before going back to sleep do the swaying. You need to allow your brain waves to diminish. If you are too awake, the chances are slim.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 16:51:16 »

I wish to astral project and I have been trying for years but I still have not achieved it, I wish to get into the akashic records for knowledge.
I stay still on my bed and think but all I get are swaying and stuff
I try to sway out but that does not work.
Is there a way to tell what form of thing I need to do.
First, you can lie down as still as you want for a million years and you'll never project... that's because you're not actually doing anything.
It's more than just "lying down and staying still"... you have to actually actively find a focus for your awareness and focus on it.  There is an actual act of doing something if you want to project.

Read this:
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 15:01:22 »

First, you can lie down as still as you want for a million years and you'll never project... that's because you're not actually doing anything.
It's more than just "lying down and staying still"... you have to actually actively find a focus for your awareness and focus on it.  There is an actual act of doing something if you want to project.

Read this:
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/
I do not agree with this.   Sometimes all I have to do is lie still, relax and wait.   What happens is I feel myself moving out of my body.   I then feel like I am travelling to some place.   It can take a little while.   I admit it does not always happen.   Last night I lied down for a long time and nothing happened.   When that happens I should do an ap technique.    I know that is no guarantee I will get out of my body.    Sometimes ap happens and other times it does not happen.   Other times I hear myself snore.   I have to be prepared for it because I ap instantly.   If I am not prepared I fall asleep. 
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I do not agree with this.   Sometimes all I have to do is lie still, relax and wait.   What happens is I feel myself moving out of my body.   I then feel like I am travelling to some place.   It can take a little while.   I admit it does not always happen.   Last night I lied down for a long time and nothing happened.   When that happens I should do an ap technique.    I know that is no guarantee I will get out of my body.    Sometimes ap happens and other times it does not happen.   Other times I hear myself snore.   I have to be prepared for it because I ap instantly.   If I am not prepared I fall asleep. 
I can *GUARANTEE* you that you're not just "lying there doing nothing".
You just don't realize what you're doing, but you are, most definitely, "doing something".
You even said it yourself, sometimes nothing happens... that's because you don't know what it is you're actually doing.
Figure it out and you won't have those "sometimes it doesn't work" moments. 

But to say you "do nothing" when you actually have no idea what it is you do... is extremely misleading and confusing to people who are new to this.
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I am not trying to be confusing or misleading.   That is the last thing I want to do.   The only thing I do is breath in and out.   There is nothing else that I know of.   I do not know why sometimes it works and sometimes it does not work.   
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« Reply #12 on: Today at 01:10:05 »

I think I know why sometimes it works and sometimes it does not work.   When it works I must be more relaxed.
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I think I know why sometimes it works and sometimes it does not work.   When it works I must be more relaxed.
Nope.

Relaxation actually has very little to do with projection.

Think about *HOW* you're relaxing.  What do you do to focus yourself into relaxing?

Think about it. 
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