OBE attempt what did I do wrong?

[lily moonsong]

This morning I attempted to have an obe from a lucid dream.

While I was dreaming, non-lucid, I saw one of my online friend's and his wife.  (We decided last night to try to visit each other)  I saw what color the kids' hair was which he confirmed for me later.  One of the kids spilled a drink, and his wife started yelling and getting an attitude.  I offered to go clean it up.  (He confirmed that she is really mean sometimes and screams a lot at the kids for that kinda stuff).  When i went to get a mop, the dream transformed into an outside setting with young kids jumping rope and eating hotdogs.  I realized I was dreaming, so I decided to astrally project into a guy I like's dream.  I entered 3d blackness.. and I was afraid I would wake up.  I stopped spinning, and when I opened my eyes, I was near swing sets still.  (My online friend confirmed that he was thinking about his kindergarden teacher this morning, and that they used to jump rope and eat hotdogs outside near swingsets.  The guy I wanted to visit was awake when I woke up, but I don't think that shoudl interfere with me astralling to him.)  Anyway, I started spinning again to go visit the guy I like, but nothing happened.  I decided to try something different.. so I let myself enter the 3d blackness.  (The blackness that dreams seem to spur from...?  I dunno.. what it is..)  And I thought about my body on my bed.  Everything was still black around me, and I was on my bed.  I imagined a rope hanging in front of my head and tried to grab it and pull myself out.  My whole body started to vibrate - especially my eyes.. and it was so uncomfortable I stopped trying and just woke myself up.  I was trying to enter the RTZ zone, and i know its harder to control your body in an etheric projection than a regular astral projection, but I wanted to practice RTZ zone, because I've heard that if I visit people in this form, while they are awake they will be able to see me.

I think I need to practice some energy work, so I will be able to control my body in RTZ zone, it's really hard to steer.  ( I know from past experience in that zone ).  I want to one day be able to project to people so strongly that they see my ghost in their living room.  (People who know me and are familiar with this kind of stuff and who won't freak out.)  It's a good skill, b/c even If I don't get anything productive done, at least I have a stronger will and good concentration and focus, which can rub over into other aspects of my life.

I don't practice this very much or read about it nearly enough.  (Or atleast not as much as some people on this forum.)  I want to do this the correct way, and know the proper technical terms for what I am already doing now, and what I should do differently in the future... any tips?

I especially would appreciate any tips on how i can increase my energy and prepare for RTZ projections.

Thanks!

~Lily

[kurtykurt42]

I think I need to practice some energy work, so I will be able to control my body in RTZ zone, it's really hard to steer.  ( I know from past experience in that zone ).  I want to one day be able to project to people so strongly that they see my ghost in their living room.  (People who know me and are familiar with this kind of stuff and who won't freak out.)  It's a good skill, b/c even If I don't get anything productive done, at least I have a stronger will and good concentration and focus, which can rub over into other aspects of my life.

Ding! The more energy you are able to gather the longer you will stay out. I also have been trying to densify (add more mass) to my energy body when I astral project, so that people in the 3rd density level (our dimension) can see me.

[lily moonsong]

So.. was I astrally projecting in my dream when I was looking at my friend's family and kids?  He told me that they had blonde hair and that the girl was older than the boy and his wife yells a lot like my dream?  Was it just a dream, or was it some kind of astral trip?  Is spinning even necessary to travel to different people astrally?  Is the 3d blackness necessary to go from a LD into an RTZ projection?

[kurtykurt42]

Sorry, but I don't seem to know very much about dreams. You're guess is as good as mine.