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« on: October 02, 2015, 05:45:59 »

Hi!

So I had experience literally 45min ago (it's 2am here) and I wish to share it. I have some questions. So, I went to bed pretty early. Around 9.30pm. This week I already went to bed this early and actually for first time in forever I slept whole 10-12 hours without waking up! The whole night! Woohoo for me, felt awesome  grin. Figured I might have it today as well. Well, sure enough I'm trying to fall asleep. Didn't even notice the transition and I found myself in non-physical. How I noticed the difference? Well, the symptoms of my favorite sleep paralysis started to arise. I felt paralysis throughout my whole body and heavy presence on left side of my neck and shoulders. Fear started to kick in again, but I remembered I didn't have sleep paralysis in quite a while, so I decides to go for that method of asking the monster to help me get up. The moment I decided that, the hostility disappeared. Presence wasn't negative anymore. It was actually, warming. And here we go again. (This happened few times before, this time it was "more advance"). My consciousness would start separating from my physical body and I would start going up. Above my bed and far in the sky. I would always feel presence pulling me up. I wanted to go up because I thought I would get pulled up and I would find myself standing somewhere next to my spirit guide. But each time in past, I would go up and fall down. Like I would get dropped down. Well, today, for first time, it actually felt, like my astral body is being moved by something. (It usually felt just like my consciousness floating). This time I felt my “astral body”. And it was terrible because, imagine having your physical body out of shape for years. Imagine not moving at all and having muscle fatigue, that’s how my astral body felt. I felt like a child. They took my, so to speak, astral body, moved it a bit so it's easier to carry and started lifting me up. This time, I felt their presence stronger. Like my senses got sharper so I could actually "see", "hear" and "feel" more. Few moments later I heard them talking. I could hear them speaking to me. It was she and he. I couldn't see him or her, but she was holding me. She told me to smell her hair so I did. The smell was so sweet. And from that I concluded she has red hair. My senses were stronger, I know, because I don't remember before feeling wind on myself if I'm not thinking about it AND at the same time feeling smell. It's so hard to do that, even in LD's. And he was just there, standing behind, being present. But they weren't my spirit guides. I don't know why I didn't think of them as my spirit guides, I just.. didn't. I asked eagerly where is my spirit guide. Why isn't he showing? She told me, he can't. She said: "He is not available. He is not allowed." I don't remember what happened then, but I asked few more questions for him. I felt my best friend's presence in him. I asked if we could go get my buddy out, because that poor thing can't even dream, let alone have experiences. He said yes, but after they stabilize me. Well, experience moved on and there were bunch of things happening afterwards, but what I want to focus on is that problem with spirit guide.

I had bunch of LD’s and each time I called out my spirit guide I got nothing. No response. On start, when my LD’s were just starting, I realized I was dreaming and took off. I was in this field of grass and really nice blue sky. That was my first time calling out to him. First first first. Sure enough, after flying around I found some tree I wanted to hang onto to keep myself within LD. That’s when I called my spirit guide and he popped out. He is, obviously a male. Has brown hair. He was freakin’ glowing so I couldn’t see much. I know he was shirtless and ripped. But that’s as much as my eyes saw from all the light. It’s like there was sun behind him and I had incredible hard time looking at him. As excited as I was, I started to ask him questions. He was telling me his name. It was long, yet short. Well, didn’t take long. Soon after, these chains started to rise from ground and wrap around him. That’s when I noticed scratches on his body. Like cuts all over and bruises. It was really overwhelming for me. Like an earthquake. I heard 3rd voice speaking. The time is not right. She is not ready. At that point he got pulled and as I said, the sensation was so strong it set me off balance within nanoseconds and I got thrown out of my own LD.

I mean, what’s the big idea? I thought, and still am, that spirit guides have free ticket to us whenever we are in non-physical, how come I get these kind of experiences? Why do I dream that he can’t reach me? When I woke up now, I felt almost mad because she was there and my spirit guide wasn’t. It’s frustrating and then it hit me. Who the hell is she? Like seriously, all this time I’m being focused on him, the spirit guide that I completely forgot about her. And she was the presence I felt all this time, pulling me out of my physical body. Anything similar ever happened to anyone else? I don’t feel sleepy at all now, and I will probably stay awake till 6-7am. Well, I have to get up at 11am, so tomorrow night will probably repeat this one.

One more thing. This time, when I woke up at 1.30am, after the experience, I wasn’t covered in cold sweat. One more woohoo for me! grin
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2015, 12:57:41 »

Good experience. You may find that this one is how you are thinking generally. Doubt is strong in this experience, perhaps you have some about breaking free.
You appear to be concentrating on one thing and not actually seeing what's around you. This could be a belief of what you expect to occur or something similar.
Next time, drop everything and look around interacting with what's present. Don't think your guide is a guy, its likely there's more than one but you've not become aware enough to notice this.
Think about the experience and try to Interptret how it can help. The chains are yours and you need to break free of them in some way.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2015, 13:13:19 »

I believe in one way or another that there's definitely a mysterious nonphysical super power controlling everything. In Robert Monroe's "The ultimate journey", when he met his spirit guide who he called the "INSPEC" -a short for "intelligent species"- he asked him that if the INSPECs have answers to everything. The INSPEC replied that they have answers to a certain point, and after that point, answers are not available to them, and he -Robert Monroe- should look for answers himself. Robert Monroe spent a whole year exploring in the nonphysical before having his first encounter with a spirit guide "the INSPEC". So, maybe you're not ready yet as the nonphysical being said.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 14:46:19 »

A guide will do just that. If they have all the answers instantly they would never have been called guides.
I first encountered mine in '69. A few years of learning followed and I may have met one in the last 30 years. They show you what you need, you have to work out how to find what you want. There's the difference, without guidance early on, the wants may never be realised.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2015, 16:47:26 »

Hi Szaxxx, Could you please share your experience with your spirit guides? like how you met them,how did they look, what did you feel during the first contact, how did they guide you.....etc.
I think this will be a very valuable addition to the forum.
Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 02:40:46 »

Good experience. You may find that this one is how you are thinking generally. Doubt is strong in this experience, perhaps you have some about breaking free.
You appear to be concentrating on one thing and not actually seeing what's around you. This could be a belief of what you expect to occur or something similar.
Next time, drop everything and look around interacting with what's present. Don't think your guide is a guy, its likely there's more than one but you've not become aware enough to notice this.
Think about the experience and try to Interptret how it can help. The chains are yours and you need to break free of them in some way.


Hey, sorry for not responding, was moving to another city, had no internet!

Well, I don't know anymore. Some say, in experiences you need to have some goal in order for experience to happen and another say to drop completely the expectations of it. Now, when I first got pulled into all of this, I decided what I wanted to do with it and that was to get to know myself more and get answers to some questions that will hopefully allow me to beat the anxiety I keep facing each day. That's why I'm so eager to get to that spirit guide that should represent something (or someone) that may help me out. I know that's also a reason why everytime I get to that point of transition, where I'm supposed to separate from physical body, my brain automatically switches to spirit guide this, spirit guide that. Nothing else matters, I just want a quick way to get to him. As I've already said, can't have it.

You said I should look around. That's really hard, because my vision is still not at that level where I can actually see in those kind of experiences. In that specific experience, while she was carrying me up, into the sky and then beyond I would say, I was in complete darkness. I asked when will I be able to see, respond was soon. That she will tell me when to open my eyes. Problem started in that one split moment, because I started to gain vision, but I still felt my physical eyes. I know it's my inexperience showing here, but I tried to keep my eyes closed so I don't wake up (and to wait a safe moment to open them up - her words), but at the same time, my astral eyes were opening and controling both was incredibly hard. That's how I felt it. It was almost as if I was looking throught my eye shutters. The only thing I saw were planets. We were moving from one planet to another. And when we finally "reached" to somewhere and my vision stabilized, I can remember barely 20% of what I saw. It's like my awareness faded and I can still recall the fragments. And in those fragments I can understand what they represent, but I don't see the answer. There is practically no answer, only indicators what it presents.

For example, in one of those fragments I remember picking myself up nice sunglasses with her next to me, in front of some old lady. I picked purple ones, but then my eyes would be seen so I decided to go for black glass. Before I could say I wanted the black, I was thrown back. I lost all the contact, all of the vision, everything that was happening in that experience with her and was on my bed once again feeling my physical body very strongly. Again, there was presence on my left side and it lifted me up. It was very different, felt negative. I let it carry me anyway. Soon enough I was inside this pitch black room. The voice said, let's see if you're compatible. At that point, lighting hit behind me and I've got to see what's inside the room for brief second. On my left was this thing, it had multiple legs and arms, looked like a lizard and everywhere around the 2 of us were monsters. Some nasty black looking ones and there were like hundreds of them. At that moment 3 thoughts occured to me. First was recognition that "to see if we're compatible" was focused on me and that lizard thing as if we could fight side-by-side (I felt no hostility coming from him). Second thing, I felt like this was similar to a game, where I could choose, would I pick good guys (to go with her) or if I would choose the bad guys (the thing that was occuring right now), I don't know why, but it felt like that black-white, good-evil thingy. And third thing was the last one I remember. I felt really hyped up. I had no fear and I was actually very pleased to see I can "kick some butt" there because of all the nightmares I had.

And I can barely understand what it represents. Glasses probably indicate my vision. Either it is that I'm blind as bat and can't see what's obvious (like an answer) or that I'm looking at the wrong things. Could also indicate that when I decided to go with black glass and hide my eyes that I'm in denial and don't want to face what's ahead. Yeah, I get that much. I can also understand this black-and-white thing I felt there, but like I said. Even thought I understand the meaning there is still no answer to why? or how do I change it/face it whatever.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2015, 18:15:48 »

There's lots to think on with this experience. You appear to have been tested on various issues.
The place (a location) to go to thing is helpful if you're projecting into the RTZ with vision etc. It can be useful without vision as you can feel your way around knowing where you are.
Your initial thoughts were for you to obtain info on anxiety. A goal dont you think?
This leaving your body idea may be too physical world based as its more a mental area of consciousness you need to reach. Vision isn't required for this but may help a beginner adapt to the physics of the many environments.
You had a guide as you wanted too. They come in all shapes and forms so don't expect anything in particular, you are getting the help but you have to work it out for yourself. They guide, you do the rest.
Think back on the feelings you had. Seeing monsters and not being scared is brilliant work. They have some hidden meaning and in this experience the fears they would normally give had gone. This shows you are past the fear stage, you've won the fear battle and that's good news.
Looking is everything in the physical, its second in the NP. How things feel is far more important.You can easily tell if something is a lie by how it feels, looking at it you'd not know.
I'm hoping some of the things you can't remember will click sometime in the future. Then you'll remember more when your mind is ready to understand. That can be what she meant when she said you would soon.
The glasses could also be your choice, things given are more useful than you know. Perhaps purple has significance by its colour, worth checking it out, you may find something helpful  wink
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2015, 20:28:17 »

There's lots to think on with this experience. You appear to have been tested on various issues.
The place (a location) to go to thing is helpful if you're projecting into the RTZ with vision etc. It can be useful without vision as you can feel your way around knowing where you are.
Your initial thoughts were for you to obtain info on anxiety. A goal dont you think?
This leaving your body idea may be too physical world based as its more a mental area of consciousness you need to reach. Vision isn't required for this but may help a beginner adapt to the physics of the many environments.
You had a guide as you wanted too. They come in all shapes and forms so don't expect anything in particular, you are getting the help but you have to work it out for yourself. They guide, you do the rest.
Think back on the feelings you had. Seeing monsters and not being scared is brilliant work. They have some hidden meaning and in this experience the fears they would normally give had gone. This shows you are past the fear stage, you've won the fear battle and that's good news.
Looking is everything in the physical, its second in the NP. How things feel is far more important.You can easily tell if something is a lie by how it feels, looking at it you'd not know.
I'm hoping some of the things you can't remember will click sometime in the future. Then you'll remember more when your mind is ready to understand. That can be what she meant when she said you would soon.
The glasses could also be your choice, things given are more useful than you know. Perhaps purple has significance by its colour, worth checking it out, you may find something helpful  wink


I'm amazed by how far you can actually see. My interpretations are basic and it kinda takes me few months to really understand them. For them to really click, to sink in why. It took me 10 months to realize why I always keep doing the same thing in my LD's.

I don't know what RTZ stands for and what do you mean I should check if purple has any significance?

And as for "This leaving your body idea may be too physical world based as its more a mental area of consciousness you need to reach. Vision isn't required for this but may help a beginner adapt to the physics of the many environments."

That's due to reason I'm lying in bed, trying to fall asleep and I do fall asleep, but I'm not aware of it. I'm already there in non-physical, but I don't recognize this until I try moving and actually feel I'm completely paralyzed. Everything starts from there. All of my experiences that have happened in last few weeks started from that moment. That's why. 2 days ago, I started 3 of my LD's by rolling out of my bed and literally breaking the restrictions of my physical body that I felt few seconds before I rolled out.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 02:32:09 »

The RTZ is a label given to the real time zone, its a copy of your physical location and can be perfectly reproduced or loaded with things that don't exist.
Purple is a colour you changed, read about the significance of purple, it may help you.
I'm not familiar with your exit technique. I don't get vibes or SP.
Thinking you have to separate from a physical body with another form is how it seems at the start. It worked for me this way long ago. Today it is phasing only.
Your answers are not location based, they are from within your mind and the environments where the mind is challenged are mostly formless. It's hard to find words to explain it clearly. You feel things emotionally rather than see or touch. Colours can play a part in these areas of consciousness.
You may not be ready just yet as they are more difficult to experience for many projectors even with lots of experience.

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2015, 02:53:26 »

The RTZ is a label given to the real time zone, its a copy of your physical location and can be perfectly reproduced or loaded with things that don't exist.
Purple is a colour you changed, read about the significance of purple, it may help you.
I'm not familiar with your exit technique. I don't get vibes or SP.
Thinking you have to separate from a physical body with another form is how it seems at the start. It worked for me this way long ago. Today it is phasing only.
Your answers are not location based, they are from within your mind and the environments where the mind is challenged are mostly formless. It's hard to find words to explain it clearly. You feel things emotionally rather than see or touch. Colours can play a part in these areas of consciousness.
You may not be ready just yet as they are more difficult to experience for many projectors even with lots of experience.

Oh, you mean something like this?

http://psychicjoanne.hubpages.com/hub/coloursindreams

I always thought that was some voodoo fake stuff from those tarot shows you laugh at 2am in the morning because you have nothing else to do. I never used those "analyze your dream content" where you write stuff from your dream and then see what it "means. Ermm.. should I start doing that?

This is for PURPLE;

Purple resonates with power and inspiration. The colour purple is most deeply associated with dreams and dreaming. Listen carefully and take special notice of dreams containing purple, indigo and violet.
Seeing purple in our dreams stimulate our need to feel at one with the Universe, and to have harmonious relationships.
Purple has soothing, calming and comforting effects and seeing purple in a dream may indicate psychic awareness and intuition.
When seeing purple in a dream you may be seeing the future as these dreams are often prophetic. Purple stimulates our spiritual perspective and intuition.
Purple is the colour of devotion, Divine healing and healing abilities, love, kindness, compassion and care. Purple is also the colour or royalty, justice, wealth, dignity and integrity.
Dreaming of purple may be imply that your spiritual side needs to be explored and expanded. Trust your intuition, always.
Take special note of dreams with a prevalence of the colour purple.

Purple appearing in your dreams inspires:
inspiration and vision, faith and trust in the future, sensitivity to the spiritual realms and psychic abilities.

Seeing purple in your dreams releases:
confusion (brings clarity), lack of discipline, resentment and contempt, arrogance, pride and forgetfulness.

That's pretty good I guess, because the planet we entered was like mixed colours of purple. And as we got close to it, there was some white cloudy thing floating around its atmosphere. (We were going really fast so I got scared a bit and pressed my head into her chest to blurry my vision). When I was picking myself sunglasses I chose purple ones with white liners.

WHITE

White is often regarded as the colour of truth and purity, innocence and completeness. The colour white is symbolic of perfection, peace, dignity, awareness and new beginnings.
Dreaming of white may be implying that you are experiencing a reawakening and/or a fresh outlook on life.
Seeing white in your dreams may also be a suggestion that something is being covered-up or hidden; as in ‘white-washed’.
White appearing in your dreams can also be indicative of a ‘clean slate’ or ‘blank canvas’ on which to begin or start anew.
Seeing white in your dreams may be a subconscious message to find the truth to a matter or situation, or to seek your own personal truths.
Seeing white within a dream relates to the imagination, and its effects on us stimulates creativity, Divine realization and humility.
When appearing in dreams leads us towards higher spiritual attunement and Divine love. Dreaming of white can be a great healing colour for a person with a negative self-image as white has the power of transformation.

Seeing white in our dreams inspires:
intuition, creativity, Divine guidance, meditation, reflection, inner-wisdom, grace and dignity and spiritual unity.

White appearing in dreams releases:
restrictions, intolerance, martyrdom, a critical and/or negative view.

If I can really rely on these descriptions than it's amazing. It means I'm getting closer, because after all it was my first time I actually got to go up without fail. (I would usually start floating up and fall down - all of my previous attempts were failures, I never knew what to make out of that because I never felt anything or sensed anything beside my consciousness, not even my "astral body" as in this case). And on top of that, I felt their presence and heard their voices as well as felt wind and smell at the same time.

I can't believe from whole experience and all of the stuff the most important part are purple sunglasses. Like, I did forget almost everything else that was happening, but purple sunglasses for win (and purple planet)!
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