Hi all,
Some may have heard about the test where you place a playing card out of view. Then go OBE and see the card. Wake up, write it down and go check if you got it right. By doing this a few times would without doubt proove that you have managed to "see" outside of your body, and the whole thing is exciting.
Well I've been trying this for some time now, and have been quite religiously shuffling a pack of cards, and pulling one out and putting it on a shelf without looking nearly every night. But have also seemed to have completely lost any ability for OBEs.
Well yesterday I woke up and as I was walking out of my room I glanced at the card. I didnt change it, and later on that afternoon I had an afternoon nap, and would you believe it. I succeeded in an OBE, and I thought about the card and went to it and saw what it was. Of course the experiment was ruined as I had glanced at it beforehand. Though interestly had only glanced at it and didnt particularly keep a note of what it was. But I did get it right! But totally inconclusive as I had seen it.
So later on I tried again, swapped the card for an unknown one. I kinda fell asleep then got an OBE from a sleeping phase, but it was very dreamy and very unclear. But I went to see the card, and there was no card there!! But then just as I was looking away, I noticed a card. Red King, but didnt quite get the suite. I think it was hearts. I then attempted to walk through my bedroom door, and just was greeted with blackness. Then I thought, actually no I need to come back right now because I'll forget. So then I woke up.
So I grabbed the laptop and went to type what card it was. (yes laptop was switched on at the side of my bed!) I had quite a bit of trouble typing it. Just making typos everywhere! Then I went to look at the card and god damn it.. Red 3 of Clubs. Wasnt a king at all. Ah well.. Then something really interesting happened...
I woke up for real

Armed with two potentials, i wrote both down to the laptop. (explained why i had so much difficulty in typing!)
I went to have a look at the card. Black 7 of clubs.. Arghhh! completely wrong.
I realised that I had caught myself out. I think the whole thing was a dream, as there was some other completely strange dreamy stuff surrounding the "obes". However the earlier attempt where I knew what card it was, definately had a lot more awareness to it. Certinately the time I woke up but hand't really was most definatley a dream. The laptop was actually running a different operating system and I hadnt realised that there was something wrong with that!
Interesting experience though, and to be honest. I think I'm going to give up on attempting the card trick, because Im starting to think its hampering my ability to project properly, because I am trying to project to the RTZ rather than aiming further. Also its always going to be inconclusive as the RTZ as frank puts it has a lot of fluctuations and its quite obvious my mind is capable of making a guess at the card whilst in the phase. So its unlikely i'll proove Astral Projection this way.
Id be interested in any comments, or whether anyone has had an RTZ projection and proven something in this way. As its all very well having Astral Projections and great vivid awareness in new worlds. Communicating with other beings. But unless you can gather some information which can be quantified in the physical after waking up, how do you know its not just a very good dream?
Ive done experiments like this in the past with dice, cards, a clock ,tv .....
Ive had successful experiments. Heres the thing though. Usually when I exit my body im standing next to my bed watching myself sleep. I can stand there in my bedroom and watch tv if I wanted. But the thing is you can cross over into the astral and not even know it. The things in your room might look identical but its possible that you might of crossed over already and when you look at the card you can get some astral card, obviously giving you a false reading.
For me- when I exit, as long as im near my body, basically dont leave my room, I can remain like a ghost , watch myself sleep. But once I get so far away, exit my room, I switch over to the astral which sometimes can be deceiving and seem as if I am still in the everyday world wandering around, But its not though.
When I first tried something like this I did it with Dice and rolled the Di on the roof right outside my bedroom window. So that night I projected went out on the roof and looked at the di and woke myself. I immediately went to confirm it and it was wrong.
I did it a while like this until I figured out what was going on. I was crossing over and when I looked at the di, I always got false readings. I rolled them to far from my body so by the time I looked at them I had already crossed over to the astral. I have like a 10/15ft radius from my body and when I cross it, im in the astral.
So what I did was a rolled the di right next to my bed. So when I exit my body Ill I had to do was look down and id be starring right at them. When I did that it was a success.
Everybodies different but this is how it is for me.
But if your gonna experiment Id say give it a shot. Im curious to see if it works as well. Blindly pick a card and tape it to the wall right behind your head or even the headboard if ya got 1, obviously dont look at it. Point is have it as close as possible and immediately when you exit, look at it and then wake to confirm it. Trick is to look at it ((immediately)) before you cross over. Even if your not really sure what happens to you when you exit, just look at the card immediately.