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« on: June 18, 2017, 06:37:18 »

Is time nonexistent in the astral realm? Like if I astral project can I make a few hours seem like a few days/weeks/years? Of course I mean with enough practice and mastering astral projection.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 07:52:50 »

Is time nonexistent in the astral realm? Like if I astral project can I make a few hours seem like a few days/weeks/years? Of course I mean with enough practice and mastering astral projection.
I find that yes, it is.

 Here is a link to a great thread. describing some very long "NP" (non physical) experiences. My name at the time here was "Lionheart". The thread was started by a Moderator here named Stillwater. 
 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/months_long_experience_at_quotthe_schoolquot_postphysical_rest_area-t43572.0.html
 
 I know you mentioned on another thread here how these threads were very lengthy. Many of the threads on the Astral Pulse Forum are lengthy, but they are loaded with helpful info as well. So, it does pay to read the whole thread.
 Almost any question you have on Astral Projection has already been answered here somewhere on this Forum. Many of the same questions have been answered repeatedly.
 The upper right hand corner "search engine" is very good for finding these answers. Just use "key words".
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 17:06:07 »

Is time nonexistent in the astral realm? Like if I astral project can I make a few hours seem like a few days/weeks/years? Of course I mean with enough practice and mastering astral projection.

There is an easier or simpler way to perceive this ...it is not about mastering astral projection (or reading a long series comments). There is physical perspective (human brain) and there is non-physical perspective.

There is a perception of 'duration' in any non-physical perspective. And with this "no time" perspective, events may be perceived along the entire continuum from a non-physical perspective (past, present, future). The non-physical is experienced only with the mind (e.g., like when the biological brain rests when we sleep). The non-physical is experienced each night when we sleep, but while dreaming we do perceive a 'duration'. Get it?

A perception of time is ONLY associated with a physical perspective (e.g., this moment ... then this moment ... then this moment). That is because we are humans in a physical body with a biological brain. Basically, it is the human brain that segments each moment into a series of slices (this slice, then that slice, etc).
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2017, 23:06:32 »

I find that yes, it is.

 Here is a link to a great thread. describing some very long "NP" (non physical) experiences. My name at the time here was "Lionheart". The thread was started by a Moderator here named Stillwater. 
 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/months_long_experience_at_quotthe_schoolquot_postphysical_rest_area-t43572.0.html
 
 I know you mentioned on another thread here how these threads were very lengthy. Many of the threads on the Astral Pulse Forum are lengthy, but they are loaded with helpful info as well. So, it does pay to read the whole thread.
 Almost any question you have on Astral Projection has already been answered here somewhere on this Forum. Many of the same questions have been answered repeatedly.
 The upper right hand corner "search engine" is very good for finding these answers. Just use "key words".
Those 2 stories you and Stillwater have given me a better idea how all of this really works. But I got two questions that I was thinking about while reading this. Were you guys fully aware that you were both asleep while you were living these lives? And did you both have the ability to leave when you wanted to? I know Stillwater was talking about how he was stuck there but he never described himself trying to leave the school
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 23:30:45 »

Those 2 stories you and Stillwater have given me a better idea how all of this really works. But I got two questions that I was thinking about while reading this. Were you guys fully aware that you were both asleep while you were living these lives? And did you both have the ability to leave when you wanted to? I know Stillwater was talking about how he was stuck there but he never described himself trying to leave the school
Initially, I was completely aware I was Dreaming. But that had to become a "afterthought" if I wished to stay where I was. I learned that too much focus on the fact that we are consciously aware in a Dream will lead to a early exit from that Dream simulation.
 After a while, you learn to hold the "semblance" and that creates a balance of sorts.

 I didn't get the "urge" to leave at all, even though there were some trying times during the entire scenario. So, truthfully I don't know if I had the ability to leave or not. The click ins and outs showed that there was some kind of "recess" in between the changing of the years. But not once did I fully awaken during this "lifetime" experience, until my morning awakening that is.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 01:35:21 »

Initially, I was completely aware I was Dreaming. But that had to become a "afterthought" if I wished to stay where I was. I learned that too much focus on the fact that we are consciously aware in a Dream will lead to a early exit from that Dream simulation.
 After a while, you learn to hold the "semblance" and that creates a balance of sorts.

 I didn't get the "urge" to leave at all, even though there were some trying times during the entire scenario. So, truthfully I don't know if I had the ability to leave or not. The click ins and outs showed that there was some kind of "recess" in between the changing of the years. But not once did I fully awaken during this "lifetime" experience, until my morning awakening that is.
Do you think you were supposed to learn something from it or do you think it was random
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 03:01:46 »

During (self-)hypnosis you can give (yourself) the suggestion to accelerate or slow down the passage of time. It is a useful technique.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 23:50:14 »

Do you think you were supposed to learn something from it or do you think it was random
Yes, there was likely a "unconscious" lesson there, but even more then that, it was a new experience.

 We come here to this physical realm to experience all kinds of things. We go there to the "other realms" for the same purpose too. Some experiences come in the form of "life's lessons" or Guidance and aid us in our physical manifestation here and overall evolution period. Others may be more like other realms in "Otherworlds"  and contain all kinds of unique adventures and quests. But in the end, they are all "experiences". 
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2017, 05:37:30 »

Yes, there was likely a "unconscious" lesson there, but even more then that, it was a new experience.

 We come here to this physical realm to experience all kinds of things. We go there to the "other realms" for the same purpose too. Some experiences come in the form of "life's lessons" or Guidance and aid us in our physical manifestation here and overall evolution period. Others may be more like other realms in "Otherworlds"  and contain all kinds of unique adventures and quests. But in the end, they are all "experiences". 
Makes me wonder if all these little worlds are pockets created by our subconscious or if they existed long before us
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2017, 17:38:18 »

Makes me wonder if all these little worlds are pockets created by our subconscious or if they existed long before us
Makes me ask exactly what is our subconscious.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2017, 20:41:51 »

Makes me wonder if all these little worlds are pockets created by our subconscious or if they existed long before us

Consciousness realities are such an unimaginably vast ocean; I think it is a combination of both. There is raw data out there to suit a wide range of scenarios that we seek out and draw on intuitively or with the guidance of other beings perhaps.

There is definitely phenomenon of time dilation in focused experiences such as astral projection, but it also extends to things like near death experiences or even just being in the zone while playing sports or a video game.

I don't think time can really be non-existent in the astral world in most of the systems we imagine because the structure of cause and effect events require an order that represents time. If the actions you perform have no "time" or "order" it is hard to understand how learning or growth could be possible.

One explanation of time which I find useful is to imagine that the granularity of time in higher dimensions has a kind of gear ratio to our time where a single tick of our experience might be hundreds of millions of ticks in the dimension above. Transitioning your state of mind into something like projection or the flow state allows you to operate at the scale of the millions of ticks, sometimes while continuing to experience normal reality such as in a near death experience.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 21:24:37 »

Consciousness realities are such an unimaginably vast ocean; I think it is a combination of both. There is raw data out there to suit a wide range of scenarios that we seek out and draw on intuitively or with the guidance of other beings perhaps.

There is definitely phenomenon of time dilation in focused experiences such as astral projection, but it also extends to things like near death experiences or even just being in the zone while playing sports or a video game.

I don't think time can really be non-existent in the astral world in most of the systems we imagine because the structure of cause and effect events require an order that represents time. If the actions you perform have no "time" or "order" it is hard to understand how learning or growth could be possible.

One explanation of time which I find useful is to imagine that the granularity of time in higher dimensions has a kind of gear ratio to our time where a single tick of our experience might be hundreds of millions of ticks in the dimension above. Transitioning your state of mind into something like projection or the flow state allows you to operate at the scale of the millions of ticks, sometimes while continuing to experience normal reality such as in a near death experience.
I like the way you think Thaomas!  smiley

 Your deeper mental inquires will lead to deeper experiences. Slowly but surely you are releasing your "Human" mindset. You can still have balance. But thinking of things differently, in a deeper sense, brings more profound experiences. There is no limit to this.

 Once you get beyond the "Human" conditioning, you will find there is so much more to see and be.  cool
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