Typical OBE

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by quetzalcoatl
I want to comment on your note about fixing your gaze on something as being essential to getting out.  I very much agree with this.  I think by focusing the mind like that, we allow our intention to project come to the surface.

I'm glad you also realize this fact.

From my own research, based on my own OBE experience, there is a DEFINITE relationship between staring at things and the experience itself.

One thing I have noticed, though, no matter when you stare at an object, whether it be in a pre-projection state, or whether you're already in the astral realm, staring at something seems to draw energy into you.

What do I mean?  It feels almost as if you're slowly being sucked into what you're looking at.  So in a pre-projection state, locking onto an image (in your third eye) seems to suck you into it.  This is what happens when you phase directly into the astral.

Now, when you're in the astral realms, via a phasing technique or traditional OBE technique (like rolling out of the body), then staring at objects seems to make the experience more lucid.

However, you must be careful.  Staring too much at something seems to ruin the experience altogether.  I haven't figured out WHY that is yet.  But, for example, if you were having an OBE in a park and you decided to look at a tree, you will find that within the first 1-3 seconds, you will start to see things very clearly.  After that, it almost begins to draw you into it, and you will have some trouble maintaining control.

At least, that is what I have observed on a number of occasions.  So I usually only stare at things when I need to balance my control and reaffirm the experience.

[clandestino]

Hi there Jeff, hows things ?
 

quote:Staring too much at something seems to ruin the experience altogether. I haven't figured out WHY that is yet

If you haven't read it, try castaneda's "the art of dreaming". ( the title is somewhat of a misnomer. The dreams in question are usually OBE's).

I won't try and summarise it, suffice to say that the book's content immediately sprung to mind, and it looks like Nagual spotted this too !

 

quote:I went to the chair and decided to do some expirements. As I touched the chair, I verified that it seemed solid at first, but with a little pressure, I was able to pass my hand through the wood.

Whenever i go OBE (pretty rarely),I do exactly the same thing. Interesting how initially the material appears solid, but press more firmly, and your fingertips slip through !

 

quote:Perhaps I raised my vibrational frequency above that of the chair without knowing it, thus allowing myself to move through it without friction?

It seems to me that when we go OBE, we end up in a particular frequency zone/ astral level...we can push the boundaries of that zone, but the frequency is at an equilibrium.

However if we "astral travel" to a new frequency / plane, we discover different laws of physics. It is some kind of interaction between our mind /self , and the non-physical reality. It agrees with the state-entropy stuff you learn back at school, where electrons become excited to different levels, and their tendency is to remain there.

regards
Mark

[Jeff_Mash]

Hey guys,

Just had another OBE and thought I would share it with you.  I am pasting this exactly as I wrote it from the OBE Journal:

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I was in a dream where I was at a house with Chris (my best friend) and I went to bed.  While laying down, I started to stare at this one particular image.  It was like nothing else existed but this one image.  The image itself reminded me of a blue electronic pager.

The longer I stared at it, the more I started to feel the vibrations come upon me.  At first, they started in my head, and slowly started to spread downwards to my neck and chest.  I noticed that when I lost concentration on this image, the vibes started to fade away.

I played with this sensation a little bit, knowing that the more I stared at the image, the more the vibes would come.  I willed the vibrations to move throughout my entire body.  As I did this, I thought to myself, "Instead of rolling out as I usually do, let's just try and be lifted out of my body."

So with the vibes in full effect, I felt myself almost automatically be lifted out of my body vertically, much like you would see a vampire vertically rise out of a coffin from a horizontal position to a standing position, in one smooth motion.

Floating above my body in a standing position, I was let down next to it.  The room was dark, and it appeared foreign to me.  It resembled the room I was in while I was dreaming, but it also appeared to be my childhood home.  Many of my projections seem to take me back to my childhood home.

Since things were really dark, I thought to myself, "I need to create some light."  Knowing that when you're projecting, one can control and create things with their mind, I held out both of my hands, palms upward, and willed myself to create to energy balls which would serve as a light source.

As I tried to create them, I saw flashed of light.  Then, it was almost as if my hands themselves emitted light, and wherever I  pointed my palms, it would illuminate the room, much like pointing a flashlight.  So I pointed the light ahead of me and saw a table and chair in what appeared to me a kitchen.

I went to the chair and decided to do some expirements.  As I touched the chair, I verified that it seemed solid at first, but with a little pressure, I was able to pass my hand through the wood.  One thing I noticed though, which I have witnessed in the past.  Whenever I touch things in the astral, IF I am able to pay attention, there is a particular energetic sound that is made.  The only way I can describe it is that it's like the sound of a Star Wars light saber as it's turned out.  The sound of constant energy buzzing.  This is what I would hear when I touched the chair.  However, as soon as I didn't focus on the sound, I was able to pass my hand through the chair easily, as if it wasn't even there.  No sound, no friction, just my hand passing through it as if it wasn't there.  Perhaps I raised my vibrational frequency above that of the chair without knowing it, thus allowing myself to move through it without friction?

I stood up from here, and decided to go up a flight of stairs.  This was just like the layout of my childhood home now.  As I got to the top of the stairs, I looked out the window and saw two people with their backs towards me, at the bottom of the driveway.  The appeared to be near two cars, a black mustang and another older foreign car.  Both cars were on, but these people were out of the cars.

I didn't know what they were doing in front of "my house", so I decided I should investigate.  Not wanting to jump through the window with the window blinds down, I saw a cord and decided to pull them up.  However, they wouldn't stay up, and as soon as I would let go of the cord, they would always slide halfway down again.

"Screw it," I thought.  "I'm jumping through them anyway!"

With that said, I jumped through the window, and suprisingly, I fell pretty fast from the second story house to the concrete below!  I landed on my feet and without any pain, but in the past, when I have jumped from a significant hieght, I either floated like a feather or I landed in a slow, fluid motion.

I appraoched the two people with their backs towards me.  They both had long hair, and I assumed they were female.  "Can I help you guys with anything?" I asked.

They slowly turned around, and one of the people was a male.  I couldn't tell if he was hurt, drunk, or just disorientated.  The female responded, "Not unless you can do something for Joey."  Joey was this guy she was with.

They started to back up away from me,  and I didn't know what else to do, so I returned to my body.

I was laying on my back on the couch, since around 2:00am I left the bedroom.  At 4:22am, my cell phone alarm went off, so I got up to turn it off, and laid back down.  This encounter happened a short time after that.

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Note: I have noticed that holding an image in your field of vision is one of the KEY things to either induce vibrations, or to strengthen your existing projection.  I don't know why this is, but it works everytime for me.  The hard part is actually getting a clear image in your minds eye to stare at.  But once it happens, as long as you're relaxed and not anxious, you can have a wonderful OBE.