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Author Topic: What happens if you kill another entity  (Read 4745 times)
Bweep06
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« on: April 03, 2012, 04:54:43 »

K, I know you can't actually "kill". But where does it go? Back to its signature frequency? Do I disperse it's energy? Making it harder or almost impossible to reessmble. I'm just wondering... Because my previous posts I've been having a problem with a two particular entities... And these guys have no idea that I'm going to cut them into tiny pieces. That is if they are "outside" entities; not self-made.
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 06:15:55 »

I don't think killing in the astral is possible since I believe your basically just a consciousness. I think anyway... You can take form of things etc but you don't have a "vehicle" like in this physical world. When you think of somebody killing someone it's basically all they are doing is destroying your vehicle you inhabit. I call your body a "vehicle." I don't think such things in the astral would be possible but... I don't know!
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 07:35:27 »

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don't think killing in the astral is possible since I believe your basically just a consciousness. I think anyway... You can take form of things etc but you don't have a "vehicle" like in this physical world. When you think of somebody killing someone it's basically all they are doing is destroying your vehicle you inhabit. I call your body a "vehicle." I don't think such things in the astral would be possible but... I don't know!


This sounds like an arguement Plato gives in the "Phaedo".

Basically, it amounts to considering which things have parts or components, and which things possess no parts at all, but exist as a unity. He reasons that all things that are composed of parts can be destroyed, since the parts can someday be separated from one another. Such are our bodies. He conversely reasons that things which are not composed of parts cannot be destroyed, since there is no way to separate them into other things (he is giving this arguement because he wants to say that souls are composed of no parts, and should thus be indestructable).

So I guess to answer your question, Bweep, it depends on whether or not the astral experiences we are having are experienced in a body made of some sort of subtle matter, or are completely immaterial and composed of only pure consciousness. If astral entities had a subtle body, then it would follow they could be killed, and their consciousness sent to some other place. If they are only pure consciousness, as lots of people think, it would seem they could not be killed at all, only "banished".
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 15:47:30 »

The astral depending on what term we use, may contain layers of reality each governed by its own independent natural laws. 'astral' or simply non-physical entity's, do possess there own 'body' and form, they just inhabit a different plane. So depends if the entity is immortal or has a lifespan lol.  tongue  It's different from immaterial spirits that are purely consciousness . Entity's are closer in vibration to us. Yes they can be killed by other entity's, or simply grow old and die when there time passes. They will experience there own afterlife in the next stage.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 19:34:40 »

I definitely don't have a problem "killing" then if all I am doing is removing it from this layer or "frequency". I didn't start it, they did. There's a consequence to bashing me in the middle of an OBE experience. Bastards.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 19:46:59 »

People who have said they have had contact with apparent beings attacking them have also said they were able to get near-instant relief by willing their attack to end.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 21:54:14 »

If the law of attraction applies, then the law of repelling must also apply no? So by 'killing' or otherwise wanting an entity to go away. You are in fact repelling it away from you and as such it goes away from you.  How it goes away from you is subjective in the method you wish to  remove this entity.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 10:44:45 »

If you are talking about killing another entity while projecting, you will probably get booted out if such an even happens. They won't die because they can't die.

Booting out is common if you do something against "Astral Norms" ex. I got booted out when I started picking through a suitcase I found that was not mine.

There are so many frigging entities at the top realms of the astral that its easy for me to simply agree with Plato on that one.

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 21:02:48 »

so who is the ruleing factor on the astral plain. who boots you for doing worng. also do you think they can restrict you in anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 21:29:00 »

 I do believe you can be booted or should I say prevented. In my earlier stages of Phasing development, I was told not to say what was happening there. I posted one of my taboo topics here to help another person with their own Astral Dilemma. After this I could not Phase for an entire week, once I did again I was told that that was due to my insubordination. I then learned from there that when I am told to observe something with no talking or to keep quiet on what I am seeing, I listen. I feel that this was another lesson in what I deem "the Astral School". I have also been put into situations whereas I was supposed to find "nonviolent" ways of handling them. In some of my Lucid dream, I was being attacked or fighting some entity. Because thought = action there, my first thought was to vaporize them. I was them put on a continuous loop until I had handled the situation in a nonviolent way. But, just last week in a Lucid dream it was the exact opposite. I was being attacked and handled it in a nonviolent matter, just to be put into a continual loop, until I finally tired and vaporized them. This never occurs during my conscious Phase Sessions. But every night when I am laying in bed I say to myself "By my act of will I release my physical control, take me to your desired destination. Show me what i need to see, teach me what i need to learn. Please awaken me in my dreams so I may become conscious and enjoy them. I know it sounds hokey, but this really works. I have awoken every night in my dreams and have consciously controlled their outcomes. I am sure it's not every dream, since you normally have 4 or more dream sequences per night. But, I feel I awaken in the ones that really matter.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 21:49:19 »

this made me think of an experiance i had. i was with someone in my yard. i was practicing dont want to go into deatail abou it it. but i was going to try something. befor i could do it he put his han on my sholder and i was shot back to my body haha. if things cant be harmed in the astral and it may or may not be our own subconsious. then y do they patrol it so and restrict. does this mean we can do harm to the place we are at and or do harm to the things in the area.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 21:56:47 »

 I would say it all has to do with "respecting the Astral World". Once you learn that, you are free to experience the higher realms of existence.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 22:07:03 »

ok that makes sence. so brings me to another question. for all of us that ap. are we set up into diff divisions? i mean we all train one way or another when we are out. What we do while alive and learn on the astral, will our job be waht we excelled at while learning? prob not an answer for this at least not one that any of us can answer. haha just came to my mind.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 22:20:38 »

 It's all a personal quest! It's different for each and everyone of us. Your goals, your aspirations, your purpose. We may all share the pathway to get there, but our destinations separate from there.
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