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« on: May 02, 2014, 00:34:46 »

So last night i woke up in sleep paralysis.I wasnt fully aware but i then started feeling like i was suffocating.This used to happen many times back when i was younger.I would end up in what i thought was a dream of me suffocating. But now i know its sleep paralysis .But back to the story.I was in sleep paralysis suffocating and i tried to calm my self down.I did for a good amount of time.I then tried to teleport to my kitchen instead of trying to pull myself out of my body.It didnt work obviously.I got frustrated and started suffocating again.I then tried the old fashion way of pulling my self out of my body.That didnt work either.Now i was just tired and since i felt as if i was dying i tried to pull the covers off of me.I thought i had gotten a hold on my physical arm and tried to lift the sheets but I was still in SP.After about 10 minutes of trouble,I finally snap into my body and throw the covers off of me angrily. I then fall back to sleep instantly.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 00:49:43 »

 It sounds like you are shifting your focus between your physical (awaking) body and your consciousness that wishes to travel.

 When we sleep, our breathing becomes automatic. When you awaken in SP, you are in between the physical and the non physical. You also just became aware of your breathing pattern again. If it's out of "sync" with what you are used to, you can begin to worry. That worry causes a fear scenario that you are being suffocated. So, in turn that's your new reality.

 When you awaken in SP, you must learn to trust what is going to happen next. Some of the noted authors of AP say that you need to go into it with the mindset that if I don't come back, then so it is. This is your ultimate hurdle and you must be able to leap it before you can move on any further.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2014, 01:04:35 »

It sounds like you are shifting your focus between your physical (awaking) body and your consciousness that wishes to travel.

 When we sleep, our breathing becomes automatic. When you awaken in SP, you are in between the physical and the non physical. You also just became aware of your breathing pattern again. If it's out of "sync" with what you are used to, you can begin to worry. That worry causes a fear scenario that you are being suffocated. So, in turn that's your new reality.

 When you awaken in SP, you must learn to trust what is going to happen next. Some of the noted authors of AP say that you need to go into it with the mindset that if I don't come back, then so it is. This is your ultimate hurdle and you must be able to leap it before you can move on any further.
But i dont think that explains why i couldnt or i should say i didnt leave my body even when i tried teleporting
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 01:51:10 »

You didn't let go of the physical enough. Being scared of suffocating tied you down unfortunately and your subconcious let the concious take what control it could. It's a survival thing, thats why many people wake when an unnatural sound or movement occurs during sleep. Someone shouting or shaking you tends to wake you up.
This interrupts the non physical phase and prevents an exit.
It's one of those things we mean when we tell everyone that you need to remove all your fears.
You experienced this first hand.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2014, 03:35:00 »

You didn't let go of the physical enough. Being scared of suffocating tied you down unfortunately and your subconcious let the concious take what control it could. It's a survival thing, thats why many people wake when an unnatural sound or movement occurs during sleep. Someone shouting or shaking you tends to wake you up.
This interrupts the non physical phase and prevents an exit.
It's one of those things we mean when we tell everyone that you need to remove all your fears.
You experienced this first hand.

I just dont understand how i would over come the fear of me suffocating.And not just the fear its also the feeling of me suffocating.The most i can do is ignore the suffocating but eventually i will die of suffocation.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 03:48:45 »

I just dont understand how i would over come the fear of me suffocating.And not just the fear its also the feeling of me suffocating.The most i can do is ignore the suffocating but eventually i will die of suffocation.
...and there lies your problem.

 To be successful with NP exploration you MUST learn to turn your away from your physical focus. This is why there are techniques such as visualization to be found. Walkthrough videos are very good for this as well.

 You can create any kind of walkthrough yourself. It could be as easy as a walk in the garden. Each time you will attempt to AP you can start with this "walk through the garden" scenario. After time you will find that your desired scenario starts to morph into it's own kind of adventure.

 I started doing a visualized walkthrough (that I still use today), whereas I am lying on a beautiful beach. The first I do is to become aware I am there. I try to smell the ocean salt, feel the breeze and sun on my skin. This ALLOWS my other senses to be activated to this area. I then reach down and grab a handful of sand and let it fall between my fingers.

 Then I stand up and go exploring. I know this area well and will usually find that there is something out of place/new or possibly another being there. That then creates my focus for that particular session.

 I NEVER look back to see what my physical body is doing. I have shifted 100% of my focus towards my new area.

 
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 04:16:38 »

As for dealing with the Sleep Paralysis:

The fear of suffocation is an illusion, partly brought on by your new level of awareness of the autonomic breathing process, also some would suggest, noticing some energy sensations or chakra activity in the heart region. This is one of the possible fears you may encounter and have to overcome. Any hint of fear is likely to magnify.
Most of us have to go through this.
Just the knowledge of this will help you to react more calmly next time and the suffocation effect should be noticeably less.
Then you will move to the next mini-stage. You may get a visual or hear something that startles you, or get more and different energy sensations. It's hard to say, but most of us get them from time to time when we find ourselves in SP.
The key is to remain very calm and not be disturbed in any way. After several experiences, you will begin to notice your thinking is changing and improving, you'll think 'Hey I felt that last time, and now there's this...and what's that now?
Just ignore it all, don't react and you will move through this stage at least a little more each time. Heck, you may breeze right through next time!
What you will find is that all this distracting activity will subside and you can then attempt a direct liftout or focus on a visualization or rundown as Lionheart describes.
Also check the stickie on Everything You Wanted To Know About Sleep Paralysis for a lot more depth on this.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 04:26:50 »

EV puts it into perspective.
Have you ever heard of someone simply holding their breath until they died?
Probably not, the second you become unconcious the subconcious automatically takes control. As your breathing is diaphragm based during sleep it's a different operating principle to being awake. This is enough for you to notice and react. As you had this recognition you should have realised your body was asleep and your mind was awake. This is perfect for exit. You thought about the physical when you really should be thinking of a destination or an exit routine. With no fear you'd have a successful concious exit to your portfolio. You were there my friend. I don't think you could have been closer to an exit if you tried.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2014, 04:35:53 »

As for dealing with the Sleep Paralysis:

The fear of suffocation is an illusion, partly brought on by your new level of awareness of the autonomic breathing process, also some would suggest, noticing some energy sensations or chakra activity in the heart region. This is one of the possible fears you may encounter and have to overcome. Any hint of fear is likely to magnify.
Most of us have to go through this.
Just the knowledge of this will help you to react more calmly next time and the suffocation effect should be noticeably less.
Then you will move to the next mini-stage. You may get a visual or hear something that startles you, or get more and different energy sensations. It's hard to say, but most of us get them from time to time when we find ourselves in SP.
The key is to remain very calm and not be disturbed in any way. After several experiences, you will begin to notice your thinking is changing and improving, you'll think 'Hey I felt that last time, and now there's this...and what's that now?
Just ignore it all, don't react and you will move through this stage at least a little more each time. Heck, you may breeze right through next time!
What you will find is that all this distracting activity will subside and you can then attempt a direct liftout or focus on a visualization or rundown as Lionheart describes.
Also check the stickie on Everything You Wanted To Know About Sleep Paralysis for a lot more depth on this.
The worst part about this experience is that this happens to me about 2 times a month.And the dreadful part is that if i dont get into sleep paralysis i might have to wait until the end of the month for it to happen again.But i dont think Spirituality has schedule lol.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 05:44:25 »

I haven't had the opportunity to track all your posts, but I hope SP is not your only method of projection. You should be trying the more contemporary methods.
Awakening in SP provides a good launching point for some people, like me, but it comes with its unique problems and is by no means perfect even if you become somewhat adept at sidestepping the problems. I still get caught off guard at times and the hypnogogia freaks me out, or I don't respond properly, quickly enough. Or if I do succeed and withstand the onslaught, I then can't find a way to make use of the exit opportunity, it just doesn't work for various reasons. So you can spend all this effort working through SP and then still be frustrated in finding an exit. It's really frustrating, but it adds to the knowledge base. So I just remain open to 'opportunities' wherever they may present themselves. SP just becomes another one of those opportunities; don't count on it as your primary method; try many others if you want to be serious about this.
You apparently are quite familiar with some of the issues with SP. Work with that, work with what you already know from that. The 'feeling' that goes along with all these events is very important.
Once you make the adjustment to your mindset and remain without emotion, you will soon find that you react automatically and correctly (you do get like .25 seconds to get control, lol). Lionheart is not kidding you, trusting in your safety and ignoring the hypnogogia takes real bravery the first few times. This is the test.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2014, 00:03:13 »

I haven't had the opportunity to track all your posts, but I hope SP is not your only method of projection. You should be trying the more contemporary methods.
Awakening in SP provides a good launching point for some people, like me, but it comes with its unique problems and is by no means perfect even if you become somewhat adept at sidestepping the problems. I still get caught off guard at times and the hypnogogia freaks me out, or I don't respond properly, quickly enough. Or if I do succeed and withstand the onslaught, I then can't find a way to make use of the exit opportunity, it just doesn't work for various reasons. So you can spend all this effort working through SP and then still be frustrated in finding an exit. It's really frustrating, but it adds to the knowledge base. So I just remain open to 'opportunities' wherever they may present themselves. SP just becomes another one of those opportunities; don't count on it as your primary method; try many others if you want to be serious about this.
You apparently are quite familiar with some of the issues with SP. Work with that, work with what you already know from that. The 'feeling' that goes along with all these events is very important.
Once you make the adjustment to your mindset and remain without emotion, you will soon find that you react automatically and correctly (you do get like .25 seconds to get control, lol). Lionheart is not kidding you, trusting in your safety and ignoring the hypnogogia takes real bravery the first few times. This is the test.
Sp isnt my only way of Ap i also try phasing .And its pretty hard to act without emotion lol.ut i guess eventually i will get there.
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