Astral Locale

[jacktheninja]

Guess what guys, you just got another artist if you want one, I have nothing to do seriously, e-mail= jacktheninja@yahoo.com

[Mirador]

Adrian, I doubt you are more than a magician's apprentice playing with fire, to propose so innocently what has been done before (for thousands of years) with tragic results. I sincerely recommend my fellow 'Astrapulsers' to avoid this like the plague. This is very dangerous and is the doorway to psychic manipulation, unless of course you want to be a slave.

Mirador

[jacktheninja]

(scrunch's face up like gary coleman)
"what you talkin bout Mirador?"

[stevewhite2000]

Hi Mirador. I am new to all of this and would appreciate it if you would explain your statement against the idea of an astral locale for meeting.  You seem to very strongly suggest against such an idea and I think as many people here, including myself are interested in working on this project that you should speak up and explain what you mean for those of us who don't understand. I wouldn't want people to do something that could possibly endanger them somewho......

I myself would be interested in helping out as I am quite proficient and particularly my brother (an IT uni student) at working with pictures and surroundings in 2D and 3D on the computer to generate or manipulate the design of the astral locale.....

[jacktheninja]

hey wait a whole minute, I remeber reading this thing about astral projection, where you were supposed to create your own little astral locale thing, but you weren't supposed to tell anyone about it or draw a picture or anything...It really stressed that part for some reason...somebody please explain....

[TruthSeeker]

Hello everyone!

Sorry for my late participation in this matter, but I have had a small vacation up in the Norwegian mountains at my cabin.

Well, back to the subject to be discussed. I would really like to participate in this project.  It is a great idea I have had for a long time, but just seemed to me like to big of a task to be done. Now that I see the response to the idea, I feel quite optimistic []

The idea of this project is simple and is very much likely "do-able". Allthough there are some obstacles we must remember:

-How we are supposed to get there:
Phasing is one way, entering it through a visual picture(RB's way of "VRP"). One thing that we must remember is that the VRP is a pretty easy bethod as long as we "enter" the picture properly.
Bet this is a problem of those who visualize to get themselves there: It is very hard to vividly visualize a picture in its enirety. If you do get there by visualization it might be that you are the only one there, as your subconcious filled the "holes" left of your memory of the picture. Other times the visualiser might offcourse "get lucky" and enter the actual place. However this gives a lot of "if"s.
One way of trying to project there is by a symbol, a symbol that we create without allowing it to be influenced by other symbols. This makes a special thing to focus on, as well as it is easy to visualize. For the projector going there "VRP" the symbol must be clearly shown at the picture. This offcourse remains to be proven and tested, but it is an idea/theory at least.

When it comes to the location: Very experienced projectors say that it takes time(or a high quantity of will/"willers") before a "thought" is properly manifested "solidely" in the astral. There is one way of solving this problem that I can thing of. Those who are experienced here should "prepare" the location: Travelling there, creating, manifesting and making all the preparations for the less experienced to follow when the location is more or less "solid". As things start to manifest, others should join in and think of a picture that has been created of the location.

The "creators" can create whatever they like, no matter how much detail they "imprint". The thing that matters is that they are a ble to manifest it properly.

Just my early ideas about this project.

P.S We should do a little research about the hazards that might occur(like mentioned earlier). HOWEVER I believe there are no hazards, only hazards that are "created" by malicious projectors or projectors that does not know any better and imprints their unsecurity and fears upon others. Just an opinion that most surely can be wrong as I do not possess quite enough information on the subject.

Sicerely,
TruthSeeker

[Pantalimon]

Whoa! Isn't syncronicity (sp) a odd animal.

Thanks to nick for pushing me in this direction and Adrian and the rest for being for having such a great idea and adding a lot of detail to the bones. Hopefully I might already have your Astral Local, in fact its been in operation almost a year now.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/LucidCrossroads/Lucidhomepage.htm

Portals, a circle like space, central water feature, own up who's been reading my mind!

The whole site will be overhawled within six months and many of the changes I'm going to make will be of direct benifit to AP/OBers. Also some of the points you've raised in this thread have second guesed the changes to be made to the site.

Have a look at the site and tell me what you'd want to see or have changed as there is still time before I crunch it all though a new generation of computer software that will make the place look far far beyond what it does now.

Cheers Pantalimon (Russell)

[jacktheninja]

Dudes wait a whole second...what was mirador talking about?....

[Adrian]

Greetings Mirador,

quote:Originally posted by Mirador

Adrian, I doubt you are more than a magician's apprentice playing with fire, to propose so innocently what has been done before (for thousands of years) with tragic results. I sincerely recommend my fellow 'Astrapulsers' to avoid this like the plague. This is very dangerous and is the doorway to psychic manipulation, unless of course you want to be a slave.

I am not sure what your point is here, perhaps you could elaborate, but I would just like to respectfully say that I believe you are entirely mistaken.

This is not something I have proposed on a whim, it is based upon much more than that I assure you, much more than that I will not say.

An Astral locale such as is being proposed here is no differnt to any other place in the Astral where people can meet.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[TruthSeeker]

What's all this about danger and doom? Does not make any sense really at all! Why would God do all of this that is being said about slavery and all?
Oh and Mirador: What tragic result is that?
A bit confused [|)]

Have a nice day,
TruthSeeker

[Greytraveller]

Okay, the project is still in planning stages and already a doomsayer spews out dire warnings of doom and gloom. W T F!![V]
Don't know about the others on this board but I'm getting really tired of this doom and gloom crap. [!]
Mirador you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Really. You probably can't even project (or deliberately project on a regular basis). It's highly likey that even if you did choose to participate that you could Not project to a group astral locale. Consider this a (much needed) flame. [}:)]
To everybody else - sorry about that rant - I couldn't resist.  I pretty much stopped visiting the Psychic Defense Forum because of all the 'I'm possessed by Demons"!! BS.
Anyway here are two useful suggestions.
1) The problems of poor visualizers and inexperienced projectors finding the locale can be addressed by emphasizing the central feature of that location. IMHO that's why a dramatic feature, like a pyramid, should be the central feature of the location.
2) Using the MicroSoft paint feature I will draw up a sketh map of the location and (hopefully) post that map for consideration. It's easier to discuss and debate actual pictures and maps after seeing them.

[clandestino]

quote:Adrian, I doubt you are more than a magician's apprentice playing with fire, to propose so innocently what has been done before (for thousands of years) with tragic results. I sincerely recommend my fellow 'Astrapulsers' to avoid this like the plague. This is very dangerous and is the doorway to psychic manipulation, unless of course you want to be a slave.

Mirador, if you provide some evidence to back up what you are saying, perhaps people will listen.

Otherwise, people won't bother.

[Pantalimon]

Hmmmm you'll have to excuse me posting and running but I'm just about to go on a weeks stag (maybe I'll survive maybe I won't :¬)

Did I check the invisible box when I posted?? I'm a proffessional artist who's created an Astral/lucid local already infact its been there a year. Whats more when I get time in the next 4 months I will be doing a major redesign and am looking for ideas!

*looks for the invisible check box somewhere?*

[clandestino]

sorry Pantalimon, I was going to post re. your designs ! but i forgot and started ranting about Mirador instead !

they look great, and I reckon that we should use one. Anyone else, comments ?

[goingslow]

The whole "you're going to become slaves" thing by that guy was distracting.. so I didnt see your designs, but I clicked on your page just now and they are really cool Pantalimon.  

Some people are so taken by the negative aspects of the astral it seems every post is a reflection of that.  Oh well if there's no need to elaborate apparently the caution wasn't really sincere.