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« on: February 18, 2011, 20:14:43 » |
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DMT, The Spirit MoleculeDMT, The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman is a book which documents his research and experiments with this psychedelic whose endogenous properties are still quite elusive. Not many people have conducted such an extensive research on DMT as Dr. Strassman. He also explores its association with near-death experiences and other mystical states of consciousness and the possibility that the pineal gland may in fact be the "seat of the soul" as once postulated by Rene Descartes, the philosopher who supported dualism and the famous phrase "cogito ergo sum" (I think therefore I am). Here's a quote from the book which gives you a taste and many of you OOBErs out there may find this familiar: "A resonance process may occur in the pineal similar to that of the shattering glass, although not quite as destructive. The pineal begins to "vibrate" at frequencies that weaken its multiple barriers to DMT formation: the pineal cellular shield, enzyme levels, and quantities of anti-DMT. The end result is a psychedelic surge of the pineal spirit molecule, resulting in the subjective states of mystical consciousness." The pineal gland contains all it needs to produce DMT. It has the highest levels of serotonin than anywhere else in the body and it produces melatonin and tryptamine, the latter being a major step towards the formation of dimethyltryptamine (DMT). What's more, certain enzymes that are known to have the power to convert the tryptamines into psychedelic compounds were found in the pineal. Taking this into account, we can see that in the human body, the pineal gland is the most reasonable place for the making of DMT. The gland also produces beta-carbolines which inhibit the breakdown of DMT in ayahuasca and, once ingested, prevents the monoamine oxydases in the gut from destroying it. It would be reasonable to speculate that in the pineal, the beta-carbolines would enhance and prolong the effects of DMT, especially during meditative states, dreams, OOBEs and NDEs. Give this book a shot. Seriously, it won't disappoint! It will also educate you and give you a better understanding of what may happen in your body when you induce your OOBEs.
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"Reality is a full-void. We experience what fills it because we are the void itself. Intrinsically, we are empty awareness." - Summerlander
The Phase = OOBE/AP/LD
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 05:04:55 » |
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yea but have you taken DMT?
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"Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves."
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Summerlander
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 13:50:34 » |
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I've taken Mexican magic mushrooms in boiling hot tea (for the best and most intense effects). Once psilocybin is digested and converted into psilocin, its molecular structure incorporates the DMT molecule plus one atom of oxygen. Strassman describes magic mushrooms as orally active DMT. His experiments on his subjects were carried out by intravenously administering DMT though. By the way, you really don't need exogenous DMT in order to have OOBEs or other mystical experiences. Endogenous DMT, possibly or most likely produced by the pineal gland is enough for that. You can induce your own trips naturally and safely (you never know how "dirty" DMT can be when sold in the illicit market). Have a look at the different molecular structures in their simplified form here: 
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"Reality is a full-void. We experience what fills it because we are the void itself. Intrinsically, we are empty awareness." - Summerlander
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 14:59:02 » |
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I've taken Mexican magic mushrooms in boiling hot tea (for the best and most intense effects). Once psilocybin is digested and converted into psilocin, its molecular structure incorporates the DMT molecule plus one atom of oxygen. Strassman describes magic mushrooms as orally active DMT. His experiments on his subjects were carried out by intravenously administering DMT though. By the way, you really don't need exogenous DMT in order to have OOBEs or other mystical experiences. Endogenous DMT, possibly or most likely produced by the pineal gland is enough for that. You can induce your own trips naturally and safely (you never know how "dirty" DMT can be when sold in the illicit market). Have a look at the different molecular structures in their simplified form here:  How do you induce your own DMT trips?
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 16:13:43 » |
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*cough*
To quote RB; one hellish experience can destroy you for the rest of your life.
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Former PauliEffect (got lost on server crash), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect , the only case where Murphy's Law doesn't apply. And, oh btw, just remember that OBEs (and NDEs) are NOT the same as LDs.
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Summerlander
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 18:29:15 » |
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@ rangestormer: To achieve altered states of consciousness such as OOBEs, this is what I do: http://astralviewers.com/summerlander-journal/how-i-induce-oobesap/...bearing in mind that melatonin levels are highest around 3am and around 5-6am and this may promote the making of DMT in the pineal. Your own DMT is enough to give you interesting experiences. @ Pauli2: You will only have "hellish" experiences if you focus on your fear. Besides, unpleasant experiences will only "destroy" you if you are mentally unstable.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 20:34:59 » |
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@ rangestormer: To achieve altered states of consciousness such as OOBEs, this is what I do: http://astralviewers.com/summerlander-journal/how-i-induce-oobesap/...bearing in mind that melatonin levels are highest around 3am and around 5-6am and this may promote the making of DMT in the pineal. Your own DMT is enough to give you interesting experiences. What about otc melatonin ? I take it at night and don't see any dmt type trips.?
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Summerlander
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 00:32:28 » |
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That's because melatonin is not a psychedelic. This is also something that is discussed by Strassman in the book because at first he thought melatonin was the "spirit" molecule. The hormone of darkness was tested on several subjects and none of them hallucinated, it just made them sleep. Although some people report increased vivid dreaming it is also true that melatonin can prolong sleep. The stuff sold in pharmacies is made from tryptophan, an amino acid found in cheese, rice, oats and sweet corn. Tryptophan speeds up the production of tryptamine in the body.
I also posit that the otc melatonin when taken before bed time will have no effect but to make you fall asleep. The melatonin levels that rise naturally in the pineal around 3am is a different story because it comes at the right time according to the sleep cycles. You can't take exogenous melatonin and expect REM sleep straight away with all its dream imagery. This is why the method I use to induce OOBEs involves a pre-nap or sleep.
Once Strassman saw that melatonin did not have psychedelic properties, he turned his attention to DMT since traces of it are found in the human body and pretty much everywhere in nature.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 09:02:14 » |
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I also posit that the otc melatonin when taken before bed time will have no effect but to make you fall asleep. The melatonin levels that rise naturally in the pineal around 3am is a different story because it comes at the right time according to the sleep cycles. You can't take exogenous melatonin and expect REM sleep straight away with all its dream imagery. This is why the method I use to induce OOBEs involves a pre-nap or sleep.
It's 4 am I'm not tired. Lol. If this is true on the 3 am release shouldn't I be tired?
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Lexy
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2011, 09:06:30 » |
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Have you tried Aya?
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2011, 14:33:40 » |
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It's 4 am I'm not tired. Lol. If this is true on the 3 am release shouldn't I be tired?
That only happens if you have gone down at a reasonable time to sleep and it is part of the cycles. If you stay up then your are deliberately tampering with the usual regulation of your circadian rhythms. I'd also like to say that delta sleep is crucial for regeneration while REM can be forfeited. Have you tried Aya?
No. But I will one day. The South Americans love it. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 20:56:44 » |
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Have you tried Aya?
What's aya?
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2011, 23:10:08 » |
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"Reality is a full-void. We experience what fills it because we are the void itself. Intrinsically, we are empty awareness." - Summerlander
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 08:20:56 » |
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Isn't that dangerous and illegal?
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Lexy
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 10:27:59 » |
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it's not illegal in Peru. It's as dangerous as any other mind-altering drug...
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