Frank Kepple - Frank Post's PDF (The Frank PDF)

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I use a grade from 0 - 10 (10 is the best/highest) on the books and documents.


Frank's Posts PDF, 2002 - 2005, Frank Kepple (compiled by Xanth)

GRADE: 3.5

In the text below the Frank's Posts PDF is referred to as the "Frank PDF".


INTRODUCTION

Page numbers below refer to pages in the Frank PDF.

This review may not be without faults, as I've managed to mess up the quotes
more than once.

The Frank PDF I read is dated 2011-01-08. If any re-editions or moving of posts
have been done, my page numberings may be completely out of order.


The Frank PDF is not something put forward by Frank himself. The PDF is a later
construction. So the criticism of the PDF should rather go to the composers and
"marketing" people of the PDF than to Frank, as I don't think he had any
intentions of making such a PDF.

I noticed one thing while reading the Frank PDF. At times it has managed to set
me in a mode where I've become sarcastic, which can seem unfair in the light
of Frank not being on the forum anymore. The reader of this review will have
to overbear with me, as I decided to stay with some formulations.

The Frank PDF is a long document, so it certainly deserves a long review specially
as the PDF is put forward as an important read on a sticky post in the forum.


In many posts Frank gives a lot of advice to the readers or the person asking a
question. And many times people seemed to be helped by Frank's answers. Searching
and reading those posts today, takes too much time and gives me too little, and
most of the times the questions and answers are not interesting to me, which
lowers the grade.

Anyone who gets bored by similar posts on the subject of "I had this astral
vision - tell me if it was an OBE!", will probably also become bored by
large parts of the Frank PDF, as Frank repeats himself very often.


What's the value of reading the Frank PDF? Well, I would say it's that you will
start to questions your own beliefs, while you at the same time question Frank's
claims.

If you read the Frank PDF by some other reason, it may be a waste of time, due
to the lack of substance and too many un-backed claims about the astral. At a
few points I've marked sections as "worth reading", and can be read stand-alone
without the need to read the full PDF.



READING INSTRUCTIONS

How should you read the Frank PDF?

Well, first you should read the Frank Resource, composed by Gandalf:
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

If you still want more Frank stuff, you could read the PDF, but be warned, you
have already read the better parts in the Frank Resource, so now everything
will go downhill.

Of the Frank PDF, I would suggest first reading pages 598 - 939. Those pages have
the size of a fair book, in fact 342 pages of "fun", and you will get the saner
part of Frank's posts. If you still feel that you want to know more of Frank,
then read pages 940 - 1187, but be prepared to accept that Frank's writing now
deteriorates and Frank repeats himself a lot.

At this stage, make a pause and really ask yourself if you want to read anything
more of the Frank PDF. If you can't get enough of Frank's style of writing, finally
read pages 1 - 597.

Why do I suggest this order of reading the Frank PDF?

Well:


For the first 600 pages, Franks mostly writes about his huge amount of experience
in the astral after more than 18 years of astral projecting. But he reveals very few
details about his actual experiences, and consumes most of the readers' time by saying
very little of value. He also writes a lot about how difficult it is for "people" to
understand how easy it is to project.

Frank states it's a tricky mental balancing act, but once you get the knack for
it, you will have no problems finding your ways around in the astral.

Frank also spends a lot of time in his posts speculating about the astral, and trying
out new ideas. Despite Frank's 18 years of astral experience, it seems that Frank
makes a lot of personal progress during 2002 and most part of 2003. But he reveals
very few details about his astral adventures and very little of interest for
the random reader.

Frank seems to constantly shift standpoints in his claims, which almost always lack
sane detailed experiential background.

Interestingly enough, Frank reports having had a lot of experience with both
vibrations and energy centers/"chakras", contrary to the impression I got from
Frank's Newsletters. Frank mainly does the chakra work once in a while because
he feels amused by the "whacky feeling" and he doesn't consider it useful for
projecting.

Frank liked the Gateway Wave I CDs, which also seemed to be the only Hemi-Sync
Frank used. Frank listened to the first CD 300 times, 3-4 times a day! (See
pages 207 & 681.)

It's also clear from the Frank PDF, that a lot of Frank's projections are in fact
LDs or very close to LDs as Frank often forgets the events from his projections,
sometimes he has completely lost any recall.

Frank often takes a sceptic hold on the RTZ OBE, sometimes giving the impression
that projecting in an LD is about the same as projecting from an OBE.

I would like to mention that R Waggoner, R Peterson, W Buhlman, Scott Rogo,
S LaBerge, L Levitan, G Gabbard & S Twemlow don't consider LDs the same as
OBEs. Neither do the pulse members Greytraveller and Psan. See the following
threads about the subject: Discussion on LD not an OBE
Greytraveller's comments on LD/OBE Psan's comments on LD/OBE

As Frank forgets a lot of his experiences from his projections, it could
indicate that he may lose lucidity as well. This fact may explain why he
so seldom reports any details about his projections, as many of them may
end up as dreams in F 22.


Anyone who has already read Monroe's UJ, will find very little new info in the
first 600 page of the Frank PDF. Many of Frank's own experiences are fragmented,
unclear, often so short that they are difficult to evaluate and leaves me with
questions.

It's almost like Frank tries to trick the reader, repeating the same thing over
and over again, with very few new details in any posts for the first 600 pages,
hiding his lack of detailed experiences.

He either has a need for showing off, is just building up his reputation or likes
to type a lot of similar words into his computer.

I claim that you could reduce the first 600 pages to 15, at most 20 pages, containing
what little is of value. I also challenge any Frank fan to prove the opposite to me,
stating the exact page numbers over the first 600 pages, to prove that there is
ANYTHING than can fit into more than 20 pages, of that PDF format. So...

I challenge you, Frank fan.

Show it to me!

The first 600 pages of the Frank PDF.

Can you please give me the _exact_ page numbers in those first 600 pages of
the Frank PDF, so I can figure out if it is possible to compose more than
20 pages with anything of value, out of those first 600 pages, containing
ANYTHING new, which isn't already mentioned in Monroe's UJ?

And yes, you are allowed to pick fractions of pages, to be merged into full pages.

As the first 600 pages of the Frank PDF has very little value, you could
start reading the PDF from page 598 and forward, saving time and effort.

I'm puzzled that no one else has questioned the validity of reading the first half
of the Frank PDF, as it resides in one of the sticky subjects of the pulse, being
marketed as a valuable read.

The Frank PDF in total becomes a little better during the second half, but still,
those 1187 pages of Frank PDF can easily be cut down with more than a 1000 pages,
without losing anything of value of the Frank PDF.

In a sense, the Frank Resource is doing exactly that, cutting more than 1000 pages
off from Frank's writings.

The Frank PDF contains almost all of Frank's posts on the pulse, except for posts
lost due to server crashes and in the moderator forum. The Frank Resource is some
kind of condensation of Frank's important ideas. When I read the Frank Resource,
I notice that some of the more weird ideas of Frank is not that prominent or not
even present.

One interesting side note; throughout the Frank PDF, it seems to me that
Frank at all times EXCLUDES Focus 22 completely from his original 4 F oC. If
someone can prove me different, by all means, do so. I think it wasn't until
the Frank Newsletter No. 3 that F 22 was included in the F oC model!

You may counter that Frank mentions F 22 a lot of times. Yes, but he didn't
include F 22 in his FoC model anywhere in the PDF. Prove me wrong.


I would add also, that I hope no one ever puts together a PDF of my pulse writings.
Such a PDF will have a hard time reaching as high a grade I've given the Frank PDF.

Look at it! What do you write about on the Astralpulse over a month! How much is
of general interest?

To understand the context in the Frank PDF, you sometimes need to get out,
search and read the full thread, which is troublesome and lowers the grade.


HIGHLIGHTS

Take a deep breath.

Start reading...

Throughout the Frank PDF, Frank gives advice to people, how they should go about
phasing, which is his expression for astral projection. He repeats himself so
much that the PDF becomes boring. And also, I very often find myself wondering
if anyone got much help from Frank's advice as they many times are fuzzy.

There are some exceptions to the fuzziness, where Frank makes better explanations.
For example the Noticing exercise, which can also be found in the Frank Resource.
(I have not had any success with the Noticing, but I am generally poor at OBE.)

Frank writes a lot about his own struggle with exiting techniques and seems to
improve his projection skills over the years 2002-2005.


Page 11-12, besides the RTZ, Frank early on names other "Zones", the Discovery Zone,
the Training Zone, the Learning Zone, etc. Later on Frank seems to mention these
Zones less and less, instead he uses his F oC concepts. The Training Zone becomes
the Training Ground. My impression is that at the end Frank had dropped the Zone
concept.

Page 26, fairly early in 2002, Frank manages to enter the RTZ for the first time
by the use of ROPE, as it slowed down Frank's exiting so he didn't shot off into
the astral. Frank soon loses interest of the RTZ.

Page 33, Frank learns a lot during his first year, 2002, for example that there
is something called "chakra". Some of the early conclusions Frank reaches on
chakras, he later seems to drop.


Page 73, one of Frank's few astral experiences. Frank meets an old woman who looks
at a house which had belonged to a man now murdered. The description is brief and
raises at least one question of mine, and is typical for Frank. You will notice
that most Frank experiences are poor in details, lacking in emotions and have few
environment descriptions, if given at all.

Page 102-103, a Frank experience with a little more details. Frank meets a woman
and seems to be at a playing ground with kids and part of it have the feeling of
a Moen retrieval preparation and is perhaps a lesson from the woman. This experience
also is in the Frank Resource. I notice that somehow Frank's perception is not
perfect, but he doesn't go into details explaining why. This experience is one
of the few Frank returns to in his writings, for example on page 135. Strangely
enough Frank doesn't seem to draw any conclusions from his experience, and doesn't
seem to have asked any guides to explain to him why he met himself as a child.
This is one of the Frank's experiences where I feel he actually is in F 27.

Page 140, Frank is shown a group of people gathering. The description is so brief
that I can hardly make out anything interesting from it, and it's typical for Frank.


Frank mentions astral noise and the vibrational state on several occasions, but
doesn't seem to question exactly what the vibrational state is. Frank also
experienced the mind-split effect, see for example page 364.

In Frank's early posts he sometimes mentions problems with exit techniques and
problems with navigating to astral places or individuals. It's never clear to
me if Frank ever managed to get control over these things, but it seemed that
he managed to project on a fairly regular basis.

Throughout some of his posts Frank comes with claims about what Monroe did or what
TMI do. I don't recognize the picture Frank gives which makes me doubt his claims.

Frank sometimes seem to forget what he has experienced in his projections as he
fall asleep after returning to C1. I think Frank's phasing is LD and not OBE.

I specially want to quote Robert Peterson on the difference between LDs and OBEs:
"Lucid dreams are not easily remembered, unless one is conditioned. ... OBEs,
however, are usually remembered vividly for years."

See Peterson's page

The observation done by Peterson and the loss of memory of Frank, adds another
big indication that Frank was more a Master of Focus 22 and not projecting to
the higher Focus Levels at all times.

One other reason why Frank didn't write down and post his experiences, could be
that Frank at times was filled with disbelief about what he observed.

And Frank's disbelief made things in the higher astral distort to the degree
that it hurled him back to F 22.

That may be the reason Frank often talks about not getting a clear picture
or not understanding and therefore giving very few experiences of his own.

Frank repeatedly uses some statements that helps the reader little,
like confusing/confused:

"What really confused me..."
"You see, that's the confusing part."
"Which all gets mighty confusing."
"It is a fact that confusion and the Astral seem to go hand in hand."
"It's *way* too confusing." (In reply to understanding what guides say)
"... subtle pitfalls. And one of the most common is, as I say, a Confusion Loop."
"...is all *very* confusing!"
"...used to confuse the heck out of me, but thanks to RB's directions..."
"...is a very confusing issue with me."

Frank also initially in years 2002-2003, at the AP forum often agreed with
known projectors like RB and Moen. Frank even described the "3-dimensional
grid structure". But my impression is that in his later years, Frank
starts to disagree and formed his own model of the Wider Reality.

All the fun-stuff begins in the Astral, Frank says. I would have wanted some
more detailed descriptions of that.



Page 177, Frank meets an astral musical dog:
"The most interesting auditory experience that I have had, to date, was meeting
what I initially called a "musical entity" that I found out was, in fact, a dog.

He has such a fragile little soul and is crying out to learn. It seems that in
some way he has been assigned to me. He reads my thoughts and plays me the most
beautiful pieces and is desperate for me to “take him on”."

Frank mentions this dog once, in one post. Then never more. As you may confirm
there are very few details in that only post.

And still Frank claims that it was the "most interesting auditory experience"
he had ever had. Why don't he write about it again then? He certainly writes
about a lot of other, less interesting stuff, which he repeats tens of times
to boredom. But apparently not his "most interesting" experience.

I would like to know why.


Page 213, Frank talks about guides, earth-bound discarnates, acceptance and doubt:
"...I have a regular guide I nicknamed Harry. He once told me that guides have
a very hard time trying to help earth-bound spirits. The core problem was acceptance.

They'd give them a little mental push (thus causing the person to have a little
more clarity) and, rather than accepting the new information and building on it
and moving on, first thing the person does is doubt."

Frank doesn't explain what he means with "earth-bound" in this context, but I
guess he means "from F 23".


Page 222, Frank get the name of his guide, Harath:
"I thought I'd edit this experience in, that I had this morning, as an example:
...
You must stop calling me Harry.

Whoops, sorry Harry. I mean, er, what is your proper name? Come on, tell me,
I promise I won't laugh.

My name is Harath."

Again an experience with few details and in my opinion containing little of value.
And also with an ending which gives rise to at least one question.

I get the impression from the conversation that Frank must have met Harath fairly
late in his development, as Frank didn't know Harath's real name until 2002.

Frank sometimes mentions that Harath has had Frank on tours into the lower astral
regions. I get the impression that those tours are like lessons, but at the same
time I'm not sure if Frank learns anything. At least he doesn't mention much
details in his many forum posts. And even when Frank mentions a detail, it always
raises at least one question in me, the most common question is if Frank in fact
is visiting his own F 22.


Page 226, throughout the PDF, Frank makes claims, usually with little backing,
as in the following section:
"Focus 27 is also called the true afterlife region."

"true" in what sense?

And _who_ is the "caller"? Frank states "...is called..."

Who calls?

Is it generally accepted wisdom Frank writes on the wall?

Not to mention that Frank constantly is changing his mind. For example he later
states that he dislikes the word "afterlife".


Page 243, Frank forgets something important and then NEVER returns to the subject:
"I was contacted by a guide this morning, as it happens, in answer to the enquiry
I put out a few days ago. He was telling me of a Focus 45 or what he called
"alien regions".

I remember listening avidly to what this chap was telling me. Afterwards I was mulling
over what he'd told me, as it was so fantastic and so out of this world, and there's
this voice in the back of my mind telling me to get up and make notes. And I thought,
yeah, I'll do it in a minute. But I went and fell asleep. So most of the valuable
info has gone from my mind."

To bad.

Either Frank had an LD in F22, or he is very poor at taking notes on these
"out of the world" things. But still, he could have written what little he
remembered, but he doesn't seem to write _anything_ from this Focus 45 experience
through the whole Frank PDF.

I would have liked a little more info on this "alien regions" thing.

But this behavior of Frank is very usual.

Frank gives few detailed experiences of his own on the forum unless they are with
guides. Perhaps due to the fact that Frank has little recollection of his phasing
experiences? Perhaps Franks phasing was more in the direction of LDs or what
Buhlman calls low powered projections? We can only guess.

But writing about his projection attempts or Hemi-Sync listening come by the
dozen.


Page 292, 296, Frank does some mapping of Monroe's old "Locale" concepts to
Monroe's new Focus Level concept, which I can't recognize at all. I think Frank
is wrong on his mapping.


Page 327, in 2002, F 27 was still new to Frank:
"...Focus 27 exploration for me is still a bit of a novelty."


Page 333, Frank makes a new definition of Focus 35, by the use of Moen Disks:
"Lower-level disks (what we incarnates are currently connected to) you'll find
hanging out around the Focus 30 to 35 region. And all the records pertaining to
people's Disk members, past lives, and so forth, can be viewed in the Library
at Focus 27."

Frank doesn't state where his new definition of Focus 30-35 come from, and he
strangely enough doesn't seem to refer to it in any later posts.

Later on Frank abandons the I-There concept (Moen's Disk).

(Note: The I-There/Disk is labeled Focus 42, as I know it.)


Page 354, Frank & Harath make a retrieval of a police. The description is short,
and leaves me again with questions.

Page 355, Frank states that Harath has learnt him to latch on to a feeling Harath
calls "spark of hope", to aid in retrievals. I would like to know if _anyone_
else has managed to do retrievals by use of something similar to this "spark of
hope". (As a sidenote: I haven't.)


Page 363, this section indicates to me that Frank had a hard time accepting the
existence of his past lives:
"...the other person I have met, several times, is a woman called Freda. She tends
to this huge garden in F27. I call it the Rainbow Garden and it's full of children.
She says she looked after me when I was once there, and she talks about all kinds
of stuff about "us". Problem is, once they start going on about the structure of
it all, I get confused and subjected to reality shifts."

This is interesting.

Reality shifts in F 27!

When Frank rejects his guide's teachings, he is no longer aligned with F 27.

Some disbelief structure maybe?


Page 376, apparently Frank had times with disagreement with Harath:
"...I might have had some disagreement with my regular guide, Harath, so I'll
avoid him by not projecting for a few days."

Perhaps not so developing for soul growth..?

Later on Frank would question the concept of guides.

I wonder how much knowledge Frank dropped from his guides?


Page 411, Frank did seem to have mixed opinions about a higher self in
years 2002-2003, as he writes:
"I'm only just recently getting my head around the "higher self" stuff."


Page 424, Frank sometimes forgets his astral experiences, just like dreams:
"Another thing I find affects memory recall *considerably* is falling asleep
directly following the experience. I still do this now and again which turns a
great projection, full of vivid memories, into some event I can hardly recall
upon awakening."


Pages 479-480, Frank describes Harath's home world. Is also in the Frank Resource,
and is well worth reading, but a little short on details.


Page 495, Frank has an odd comment:
"...I have not had the experience (yet) of meeting a person within
the Astral (projector or resident) who I knew on a face-to-face
basis while Physical."

He doesn't seem to have met anyone discarnate who he knew from life?


Page 503, for some time Frank mentioned 4-dimensional astral:
"Focus-21 is the bridge between 3-dimensional Physical and 4-dimensional Astral."

I never understood what Frank meant by that, as it was kind of mystical to me.


Page 506, Frank hasn't noticed becoming more "playful" in the astral:
"...you have only one "mind" which basically remains the same in whatever
realm of consciousness you may be."


Page 529, sometimes Frank talks about "portals" & "planes" like on this page:
"But dotted amongst all the normal buildings are these large round structures.
They stand out quite a bit which is why I first got curious about them. Within
these structures are portals which I found can take you to places which, up until
now, have looked remarkably planet-Earth like. ... It's normal to experience fairly
high-speed movement. For example, when travelling through portals, entering planes
via entrance-structures, and so on."

As always, Frank's few experiences lack details and are breif in descriptions.

Later in the PDF, Frank talks less about these structures, perhaps because he
leaves the influence from RB and Moen behind him?


Page 530-531, Frank talks about 4th Density:
"Individuals who are born with what people generally call a "talent" for
something - whatever that talent may be - chances are have developed their
skills within the 4th Density Exchange Territories (4D ET's) prior to becoming
incarnate within the Physical."

Frank never explains what this 4th Density is in detail. It's almost like an obscure
label he uses for some time until he turns to his F oC model.

Frank doesn't write much about what experiences of his own have made him reach
the conclusion that people "developed their skills within the 4th Density".

This is a typical post of Frank, containing several claims with little own
experiences to back those claims up. But the good thing with this post
is that it doesn't contain the usual repetition from previous posts.


Page 547, Frank describes the event when he left the Training Ground.
"I was fighting alongside others in this world-war-one style trench. ...
...for some reason, I just thought sod-it! ... To my utter amazement, that
whole gruesome scene just vanished..."


Page 556, Frank reports he often had laps of consciousness in phasing transition:
"Seldom is it that I can achieve a perfectly smooth Phasing transition with absolutely
no gaps whatsoever. Often I'll experience a little lapse in consciousness immediately
prior to the vibrational state. I think this must be a normal thing."

If this happens often to people phasing, I wonder if I should regard those lapses
as yet another indication that phasing is entering sleep and more like LDs than
anything else?


Page 556, Frank doesn't give any details of most of his experiences:
"This morning, for instance, I was projecting for fun. Had six incredible experiences
over a period of about 3 hours. ... on the Saturday morning of last week I had my
longest ever projection. One which lasted about an hour and fifteen minutes (in terms
of Earth-time)."

I wonder why Frank wrote so many, and sometimes long posts on the pulse forum? Many
times with identical content. But Frank very seldom gave any detailed experiences
to other readers of his posts.


During 2003 Frank goes mystic and writes about the 4th Density in some posts.
And says something about "resident within 5th dimensional reality".

Page 555, Frank on reality:
"...non-physical family who is normally resident within 5th dimensional reality. ...
...these people can often appear as a jumbled mass of sparkly lights."


Page 574, more mystic comment by Frank:
"So if you focus away from the 3D physical, then that realm is no-longer
a reality for you. Which means you no-longer have any sensation of your
physical body; as your reality becomes 4D Astral."


Page 598, Frank makes some good point on the upper regions of the astral. Worth reading.

Page 611, Frank comments on Mayatnik's UFO posts:
  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_metaphysics/question_for_mayatnik-t5318.75.html

Page 611, Frank on guides:
"The turning point, for me, was when I became open to the concept of "guides".
Since then I've discovered all manner of stuff and have spent a *lot* of time
trying to make sense of it all."

It's not clear if the teachings were difficult or if Frank was rejecting what
he saw. Perhaps he could have written some of his experiences on the pulse?

Later Frank distanced himself from the guide-concept.


Page 631, Frank makes some good point on what to do in F 21. Worth reading.

Page 632, Frank can't find F 15. This is in 2004.
"Regarding the F12-15-21 transition I admit I could never really work out what
state Monroe was calling F15."


Page 643 - 645, Frank states things about how two people would experience the
same astral environment, something he only could have done if he either had
read it from a book, like Moen's 4th one, or if Frank had done partnered
exploration, which I found no proof of so far.

Page 657, Frank has opinions on how people will act in the astral:
"Next a person might learn to fly. So they start flying here and there, thinking
it's a whole lot more efficient than walking. Then comes the realisation you don't
actually have to travel at all. You can simply manifest in whatever place."


Page 658, Frank never realized that F 12 is a place where a lot of interaction can
be done with other beings, see Monroe's FJ. Frank states for example:
"...like the Monroe Focus 12 state. ...  Try to think of this phase as somthing
you pass through. ...  So try not to spend too long here."

Page 665, Franks complains that he often LD, when he only wants to sleep.

Page 666, Franks talks on Aspects, meaning other incarnates of himself?

Page 669, Frank gets date, but not place. LD indication, as he had low awareness.
He wasn't able to get back to the place. Still worth reading:
"...a typical English social club, albeit a rather old-fashioned looking one.
It crossed my mind, from the way people were dressed and the decor, that it
was probably early 1900's."



Page 672-675, Frank makes some good on the lower astral areas. Worth reading.

Pages 683, 688-689 - retrievals by Frank. Worth reading.

Page 696, Frank most likely is in an LD, so his hands won't melt.

Page 726, Frank mentions a book, where he talks about things in depth, so I
guess that's the point where he works on his book for the first time?


Page 734, sometimes I think the Frank Resource skirted Frank's most weird ideas,
like this one:
"Everything we materialise within the physical is already within the non-physical.
Every TV program, every song, every piece of music, every radio broadcast, in fact
everything and anything any of us (in whatever physical era) have either invented, are
currently inventing, or ever will invent, is already present within the non-physical."


Page 750-751, Frank on retrievals:
"With me, I decided to start doing retrievals. ... I did screw up a few times but
was assured this was normal and had not hurt anyone's progress and so forth. Once
it started coming together, I could not do enough of them. The work is just too
gratifying for words... ... I am devoting a whole chapter of my up and coming book
on the subject of retrievals, giving all the information a person needs together
with a range of actual retrieval examples. ... I can often get the attention of
at least the people queuing and a number of others besides. Around 30 people,
maybe 40 people in all on a good day, will transition. ... Your success-rate
with bulk adult retrievals will never be 100%. If it is then great. But
realistically if you can average 50% overall then you are doing well."

Wow... Frank did bulk retrievals.

And not ever using PUL, as it seems.

Quite impressive, unless Frank did those "retrievals" within his own F 22.

There is one problem with Frank's claim of retrieving 30-40 people at the same
time. If those people are attuned to F 25 and believe in Jesus, why would they
leave F 25 where they are most attuned? I don't get it. Something seems amiss.

Normally you manage to retrieve people who have been starting to doubt their
F 25 belief or Jesus or whatever.

Too bad Frank gives so few exact details from these bulk retrievals.

Still worth reading though.


Page 758, Frank is not too impressed with some kinds of healing, and doesn't
seem to relate that to retrievals of Aspects of Self:
"I would recommend you not try to heal these parts of yourself through astral travel.
Dealing with such intense emotional interplay, while immersed within the astral
environment, could be an almost impossible situation for you to deal with."


Frank description of what "time" is, seems completely incomprehensible to me, see
for example pages 759-760, if you are interested. Franks just doesn't make sense.
And Frank also on page 801 makes a mess about "timeline"/"time-frequency":
"Now, each minor system or timeline is “separated” from one another due to the fact
that it is on a different, what you might call, time-frequency. ... but each one is
on a different time frequency. By using our mind, we are able to “tune in” to
different timelines. Which is basically what Monroe discovered and what I have
managed to expand upon and clarify further."

The last sentence of Frank above I very much question...

The very interested can also read my posts on the concept of time:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/the_universe-t32104.0.html;msg263485#msg263485
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_quantum_physics/astral_time_a_definition-t32111.0.html



Page 766-767, Frank firmly defines new concepts:
"The mind is located in a totally different sphere of reality and connects to
the brain by what is known as a Bio-Energetic Link. ... Monroe... his work
is steadily being superseded. The non-physical region he originally labelled
as Focus 27 is actually termed the Exchange Territories, for example."

Do you believe him?


Page 775: At end of 2004, Frank mentions his F 3 oC for the first time.


Page 802, Frank claims to have discovered something which he calls "Base Material",
but he mentions nothing about how he has made that discovery:
"In answer to your final point, yes, we are also constructed from Base Material.
As everything within our major system, as far as I can tell, whether it be physical
or non-physical, is ultimately made from it. Think of Base Material as a kind of
consciousness, only consciousness in its rawest possible form."

Please, Frank. So many unsubstantial claims. So little experience to back
it all up with.

Why do you do this to me?


At page 808, Frank again tries to take away the mystic connotation from the astral:
"Anyhow, there are two basic elements at Source, 1) The Cosmic Song and,
2) The Eternal Dance. ... However, what we have done is create a mental
barrier between here and There, so as not to spoil The Game."

Makes me laugh.


Page 810, at the very end of 2004, Frank discovers F 15 for the first time,
after he has created his Focuses oC model. Worth reading.


Page 814, Frank on how to prepare for astral sex:
"...say there are two people: The game begins by each person placing an orgasmic
feeling in the mind of the other."

Yes...

You place it "in the mind of the other".

Nowhere else.



Page 818, Frank sometimes tells the reader how things should be:
"That is how it appears to be for most people, let's say."


Page 821, Frank informs about his "first book" and his "second book" to come.
There probably exists some kind of elaborate manuscript at this time, late 2004.



Page 835, Frank takes a bash at mysticism by avoiding incomprehensible expressions
and Frank makes things clear:
"What you want is to communicate directly with Self or directly with your Essence,
as it is often called. Others call it your Oversoul, but the word soul is way too
religious/mystical for my tastes. I prefer the term Self or Essence...

So, instead of asking to meet with your guide, simply ask to communicate directly
with Essence. This should erase the confusion."

Wow...

"This should erase the confusion."

Deep, man.

You see?

Self or Essence is not at all as mystical as the concept Oversoul.

Seriously, I'm really having a hard time seeing why "Essence" is a better word
than "Oversoul". I also don't understand how on Earth, Frank thinks he has avoided
all the "mystical connotation" by using the word "Essence" instead of "Oversoul".

For being an opponent to mystics, Frank is quite a mystic himself.

Maybe it's the word "Over-" which is a problem for Frank, as it could indicate
that his guides have some kind of authority over him? Perhaps they have more
knowledge for example?



Page 869, Frank doesn't bother to explain too much what "aspects" are:
"Probable selves are aspects of you, as in created by you on a more local level,
as opposed to other "selves" or focuses which are created in Essence or the
"oversoul" region of consciousness."

Apparently there are different kinds of selves, some are focuses, but not the
kind of focuses encountered earlier.

Do you think it makes sense?



Page 836: Frank ends it with:
"It might take you a few attempts to get the hang of it."

Oh, yeah! A few attempts.


Frank often claimed to have outdated Monroe in various ways.

Page 839, Frank on the Monroe book JOB:
"Problem is now a significant proportion of his experiences in JOB concerning what
he called "locales" is way out of date."

Well, JOB is the only book which mentions Locale III, which I consider of
big importance.

Frank continues on the subject of Monroe's 1st book:
"I even found the place with the huge cars in JOB."

Ok, Frank, why don't you tell us a little more in detail about it?

Nope?

To bad, because I would have liked to know if your experience could have been
considered another adventure in dream land.

Another work of the Master of Focus 22.


Page 840, a fragmented piece of text of Frank experiences on the subject of
"merging" with other incarnations:
"...I have only ever came across two aspects of myself I can readily communicate with.
I merged with several others..."

Frank gives a few more details, but please, this can't be the full story, unless
these experiences are faint memories from not-so-lucid dreams...


Pages 194, 480-481 & 853, are places where Frank mentions that Harath is an alien
from another planet:
"I have a regular guide-friend who projects to me fairly often. He is resident on
another physical planet and I've been there a number of times."


Page 884, Frank on an energy centre:
"The butterflies feeling is your yellow energy centre coming alive..."

Has Frank _seen_ this yellow color? Found it on the Internet?


Page 903, here Frank defines F 3 oC to be F 23 - F 26 (excluding F 27), which
could be a typo.

Page 906, Franks explains what Aspects are:
"...within Focus 2oC you meet many Aspects oyourself. Aspects are not other focuses
but Aspects are created by you to perform various functions within consciousness."

I note that Frank's definition of Aspects seems to be different than Moen's
Aspects of Self, which need to be retrieved. In my opinion, Frank's Aspects
are nothing more than thoughtforms portraying people in F 22.


Page 912, Frank on energy centers:
"As you make the transition to Focus 21 you should feel your energy centres
working.  Particularly your Yellow centre in an interaction with the Purple...

Four times now I have managed to simply project my awareness into the RTZ. ...
Simply projecting my awareness into the RTZ from being fully awake and aware in
the physical. No focus 10, 12, 21, no rope-method, no blah, blah, blah method,
nothing. Simply lay back and excite the yellow and purple energy centres and
“roll out” into the RTZ."

Has Frank _seen_ these Yellow/Purple "centres"? Or just found the info on the Internet?

No details are given by Frank. No detailed experiences regarding the existence
or the color of the "centres".


Page 916, Frank probably believes that LDs are the same as OBEs:
"Focus 2 oC is the place the olden day explorers termed the astral. ... This is
about as far as those olden-day inner explorers went."

Well, Frank... You seem to be very sure about those "olden-days" OBE:ers.

Throughout the PDF, Frank states with a huge a mount of selfconfidence, exactly
what Monroe did or didn't and where Monroe went "wrong". Frank gives very few
experiences to back up his claims of what wrongs and rights Monroe did. I am
under the impression that Frank had _just_ a little too high thoughts about
his own ideas.


Page 921, sometimes Frank seems to have perceived very little of F 4 oC, and at
other times, like here, Frank seems to have perceived a lot:
"...I could write a whole book just on Focus 4 alone the area is so involved."

Page 924, sometimes Frank ignores to state what Monroe Focus he is talking about,
is if F 12, F 22 or something else:
"The original archetypes held in Focus 4, that are to do with all the potential
states and probabilities possible within our particular physical dimension, are
“downloaded” into Focus 2."

Read the last quote and figure out if you understand it. I don't.

Reason why I don't understand Frank: To much to choose from -> Focus 12 are areas
making contact with entities external form the physical form. Focus 22 is dream
or insanity area. F 15 is the area of Event Lines and "no time" / "all time".

You see?

Which Focus should I pick?

Incomprehensible.

Each time Frank takes the Monroe Focuses and garble them into the F oC:s, he
always end up with a mess. And needless to say, with very little experiences
of his own to back up his claims.

Again and again.

Claim after claim.

But very few experiences of his own. Is Frank constantly forgetting what he is
doing in his LDs?

I don't need any hard proofs. Just tell me your experiences. Something detailed.


Page 935, Frank puts his friendly side towards the mystics:
"Some mystics even take this notion a stage further saying that, at present,
i.e. while physical, you are a kind of “fragment” of some kind of “whole”.
Then, when you die, you kind of become “one” again and “rejoin” this
all-encompassing whole entity or Higher Self. This is, of course, a
complete load of dingo droppings."

There you got it.

dingo droppings

That's what it is.

Frank is absolutely sure about his standpoint. And he don't need to report any
of his own experiences which have made him reach that "dingo droppings" conclusion.

Just trust him.

It's almost like the Christian God. Don't request proofs of Gods existence, just
believe in God. Believe in Him or you will go to Hell.

dingo droppings



Page 935, Frank talks about time again, and introduces his new non-mystical concept:
"To grasp the notion of Simultaneous Time, in your thinking you have to get
a good grasp of the idea of Infinity. You see, everything that ever will be,
has already been. Because in infinity, everything happens an infinite number
of times."

Everything has already happened and continues to happen at-the-same-time,
an infinite amount of times, because there is no time in F 4 oC.

Yes, you tell me.

Based on what experience of Frank?

I consider the last quote from Frank as one of the biggest pieces of
mystical and completely incomprehensible crap. If you scroll up the
page you'll find links to my posts on time. Right or wrong? I can't
tell, but I can at least claim to reach for a minimum of sanity.



Sometimes when a member with some kind of experience wanted answers to certain
questions, Frank gave answer, but not always on the question and usually not
in a context where he considered other possibilities. Read these posts and
judge for yourself. To me it seems fairly obvious that Frank is caught up
so deeply in his own perfect ideas, that some pieces just won't fit. You
judge for yourself on these threads:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/ap_adventures_outside_the_norm-t17850.0.html;msg156003#msg156003
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/higher_self_verification_corey-t18223.0.html

Lot of text, isn't it?


Why is a skilled projector like Frank so often describing his exit sensations and
seldom describing his astral experiences? Why is he littering page up and page down
with all his various exit sensations or attempts to go astral?


Page 949, Frank makes some fantastic claims about properties of what he calls
the Void. I won't quote him as he is attributing properties to Monroe Focuses
I haven't found valid anywhere else. I leave for the interested reader to find
out for himself in the Frank PDF. Interestingly enough, the Frank Resource
has left out this weird section.


Page 967, Frank remembers:
"I never had any problems with memory recall with the Phasing approach."

Ohh..?


Page 973, Frank invalidates some Monroe Focuses:
"In which case there is no F21, there is no F10-F12. There is only a direct Phasing
into the awareness of the reality you wish to experience."

Hmm...

If you think I make this review in a somewhat sarcastic mode, yes, that is
exactly how I feel now.


Page 979. Wow... Frank tells us about a Monroe shortcoming:
"When people know basically what goes on in the two areas F2 and F3 it becomes very
easy to recognise them. That's basically what Monroe did, but he wasn't too clear
on the difference between F2 and F3."

Oh...

So Monroe wasn't too clear on the difference between F2 and F3?

I lack words.

Frank...

Please.


Page 987, a very interesting page in the Frank PDF. Here Frank describes Phasing
overlays in a manner close to interactive RVing:
"Imagine the picture you can see now as your current dreamscape, i.e. Focus 2.
Imagine the picture painted over the slats of the blind behind as Focus 3. Now
slowly open the first blind and turn the slats through 45 degrees. At which point
you can still see the picture but it's broken up. Now the picture is interspersed
with the picture on the slats of the blind behind it. The act of opening the blind
is like “detuning” your focus of attention. ...

If you were to open the imaginary blind so the thin edge of each slat is now directly
facing you, you would not be able to see the initial picture at all now."

This description is so different from what I thought an overlay/superimposed
Phased F oC would be. I see hypnopompic image from time to time at the same time
as I see the physical, but my hypnopompic images are _always_ superimposed 100%
over C1.

This description by Frank is something different. Read the full Page 987 and if
you are really interested, read Page 988 as well even if Frank has written most
of that stuff elsewhere.

It's surprising that nothing of page 987 has made it to the Frank Resource.

Maybe because it's too weird?



Page 990, Frank relays a few details from one of his experiences, but he has forgotten
the most important detail:
"There was a time once I came across an Arabic place, it was a kind of eating place
sort-of like a cafe. Anyhow, I was asking the "owner" there what the name meant. It
was a weird sounding name, very unusual. ... But he said that one of the words in
the two-word name (aagh, I forget what it was now as it was about 3 years ago this
happened). Anyhow, one of the words was this ancient arabic word for... ? And that's
what I forget now, but at the time I made careful mental note.

I searched for this word all over the Internet. I kept looking and looking and finally
I came across this one website and there was this word. I was gobsmacked when I saw it
because the description of its useage or meaning was exactly as the old Arab man had
described. It was a very unusual very ancient word. In other words, it was just nothing
that I could ever even have imagined."

I thought Frank took notes of everything he experienced..?


Page 992, Frank mentions that in F 4 oC you can be a concept of a color or a
harmony. This is also mentioned in the Frank Resources, but somewhat stripped
down. The interested reader may want to take a look at page 992. For example
Frank writes he became Tuesday. But as always, Frank's experiences mostly lack
details and are very brief in description.


Page 996, Frank knows what we store in F 2 oC:
"All the core belief constructs that we hold, our day-to-day thinking, our
imagination, our memory, and so forth, these are all held within Focus 2 of
consciousness and we access this area every minute of the day. Plus, it's
usually where we go to dream."

Ok, _exactly_ how does Frank know this? How?

And certainly, in what Monroe Focus do we store those memories? More than one?

I ask, because F 2 oC is defined as being more than one Monroe Focus.

Frank leaves us without answer.


Page 997, Frank uses the word Aspect, in a slightly different manner this time.
Can't the man be stable in his definitions?
"Unfortunately, it's all too easy to create an Aspect of yourself within F2oC..."


(continued...)

[Pauli2]

(continued...)


Page 1000, Frank gets the vibrations in F 2 oC:
"It is interesting that if you phase-shift to Focus 2 of consciousness and then
start shifting your perception about within Focus 2, in a similar way to how people
do within Focus 1, you can also get vibrations, still remain within Focus 2 of
consciousness, but experience them as an F2/F1 overlay."

I wonder how often Frank managed to get Out of Body.

Pages 1006-1007, Frank has a rundown which starts as a Moen imagination method,
then Frank switches into the imagined scene.

Pages 1013-1014 & 1017, Frank discovers that his 4 F oC are not enough, so he thinks
of naming a fifth F oC, at some point called FZ. This happens in April 2005.

In my opinion Frank does a mistakes here. He considers all 3-D darknesses to be
at the same F oC.

Maybe F Z isn't a F oC?


Page 1026, oh my, I thought I knew what F 2 oC was, but no..

Page 1026, Frank defines F 2 oC as a "wider" F 12:
"Plus, all of us have many, many aspects of ourself located in Focus 2 of
consciousness of my Phasing Model (that I loosely translate as a wider Monroe
focus 12)."

Exactly HOW is Frank's "wider" F 12 different from the regular F 12, the so
called "expanded awareness"?

Please.


Page 1026-1027, Frank goes deeper on aspects:
"Within Focus 2 of consciousness you can meet up with all manner of aspects of
yourself, or what is quite common is you become different aspects of yourself.
In other words, it is possible to view these aspects objectively or we can
"step into" them and become them."

Is this Frank watching himself in dream land from a 3rd person perspective?

Is this yet another work by the Master of Focus 22?

You tell me what Frank really means!


Page 1038, Frank talks about physics:
"Without that underlying subjective energy, objective reality would just black out.
It would be the equivalent of pulling the plug on a piece of electrical equipment.
Everything physical would just disintegrate into individual atoms and then individual
atoms themselves would disintegrate into progressively smaller particles (including us)."

Ok, Frank. You have some deep claims.

I ask, based on what experiences? On what experiences? Tell us.

What Frank claims, is that if the Self in F 4 oC stops to feed the physical reality
with "subjective energy", all of the objective physical world will stop to exist.

Ok.

Tell us the experience that supports that idea.

Tell us, Frank.


Page 1042, Frank claims it's easier to go from F 2 oC to the RTZ, than from F 1 oC
to RTZ:
"...you will find it a *lot* easier transitioning into what is often called a
real-time-zone projection from Focus 2, than Focus 1. Many people plug away
trying to do this from the physical. But transitioning to Focus 2 *first* and
then transitioning back to the physical into the “real time zone” may sound a
bit of a roundabout way of doing it. But I say it‟s a lot easier, overall."

Problem is that Frank doesn't state if he goes from F 22, F 12 or "wider" F 12
to RTZ...

He doesn't give much detail to show that he doesn't go from one LD environment
to just another LD environment. Or _how_ he does it. And _why_ he thinks it
easier to go the roundabout way, instead of directly OBE into his bedroom.


Page 1048, Frank states something very doubtful about hypnagogics:
"Eventually, people get to the stage where they see what is commonly called
“hypnogogic imagery” (this is the Monroe Focus 12 state)."

I really, really doubt that is F 12. I am even able to get some swirls or similar
just by going to bed in the evening, still turning around in bed and I doubt that
is F 12. I would like someone from TMI really describe F 12 as Frank's statement
is so unlikely to be true.
 

Page 1050, Frank makes firm statements:
"Our imagination and memory, for example, is located within Focus 2. So anytime
you imagine or remember something you are accessing Focus 2 of consciousness."

What, WHAT F 2? Which one of the Monroe Focuses? F 12? F 15?

And, ohh... Frank, this idea is based on what experience?

Now... What happened to F 4 oC?

This has become a joke.


Page 1053, probably the sanest Frank claim since many pages:
"This is what Bruce Moen teaches, for example. His Focused Attention method is
essentially a method of teaching people how to have an F1/F3 overlay experience.
But the way I do things is slightly different in that I teach you to actually
step into F3 and have a walk around."

Not completely as I perceive it, but fair enough.


Page 1055, how could Frank have this idea?
"The only book I had read at that time was Monroe‟s Journeys OotB. He mentions
about “dead” people in the book. But I could never work out what he was going
on about in that respect. Truth is I never thought about it all that much and,
as far as I was concerned, I never saw any dead people. Everyone I ever met
within this strange kind of reality was very much alive. I just assumed they
were people doing the same as me. I had no religious beliefs at all, I thought
all the “life after death” stuff was just religious tosh. As far as I was
concerned once you‟re dead that‟s it, you‟re dead. Of course, my idea of dead
people were stiffs lying in a coffin. It never occurred to me that the people
I was interacting with within this reality were actually physically dead."

How was Frank unable to figure out that he met discarnates?

That's just completely improbable.

How?


Page 1057, Frank on energy:
"There are obviously specific energy centres. I can set them off more or less at
will within Focus 2 and now and again within Focus 1. Sort of when I'm in the mood.
I ignite my heart-centre about once a week for the whacky feelings it gives, for
example."

Taken together with Frank's statement that there is no need to do energy work to
project, I have a statement to do:

Frank is much too reckless with his comments on the properties of energy work.

Reckless.


Page 1057, Frank on eyes:
"Regarding the eyes:

I consider the ability to allow the eyes to relax as crucial to success in this.
Some people appear to have a knack for it, others, such as myself, have difficulties.
My eyes will always try to “snatch a glance” at whatever it is I am perceiving in
mind. Not so much now because I got over it. But it took me ages."

Is Frank talking about his physical eyes?

What is phasing?

Is phasing sort of remote viewing, with an element of interaction?

I'm puzzled, again.


Page 1062, Frank talks about confusion in F 2 oC:
"Revel in Focus 2 by all means, provided you know that's what you are doing.
Much confusion can occur, however, when you think you are meeting “guides”
and stuff and you are just revelling within Focus 2 without realising it."

I take it that Frank is talking about guides as a person's own thoughtforms.
To my knowledge it seems that more experienced projectors know when they have
encountered a thoughtform and when they have in fact met an entity which could
be regarded as a guide.

So again, it's puzzling that Frank doesn't describe any means to detect when
the person is merely a thoughtform, like Buhlman does with his "What do you
represent?" question to the entity.

Other skilled projectors say that we have non-physical senses, which can be
used to immediately detect if a person is a thoughtform, a discarnate, an
incarnate dreaming but unaware, and an incarnate lucid or projecting.

Why does Frank so often return to warnings about being tricked by thoughtforms
in F 2 oC? And also, I hate it when I don't know what Monroe Focus Frank points
to.


Page 1064, Frank on Moen again:
"There is no reason why you cannot plumb for an F1/F3 overlay experience. Doing
this will enable you to interact with other people within the Transition Area.
Bruce Moen's Focused Attention approach teaches people how to have F1/F3 overlay
experiences. Bruce's terminology is a little different to my own, but the basic
action is the same."

Uhh...

The "basic action" is the same?

Is Frank saying that his Phasing method is similar to the Moen imagination
method, or is Frank's comment only valid for F1/F3 overlay phasing?

Moen-style retrievals could be Frank F1/F3 overlay phasing?

What a surprise!


Page 1074, Frank on the total self:
"When you adopt Focus 4 as your Primary Focus you “connect” with your total self."

*cough*

The "Total Self" was another name Monroe used for the I-There!

I wonder if Frank made that connection?


Page 1076, Frank goes re-incarnation & mystic bashing again:
"So to fly directly in the face of the zillions of mystics who claim otherwise,
none of us can possibly have a "past" life. ... We have never been them and we
will never become them. Sorry to anyone who ever paid good money for a "past
life reading" and all that."

So much for the I-There.

Needless to say, Frank states no experiences of his own to back his claim that
we don't reincarnate.


Page 1078, Frank on F 4 oC:
"I said a little while ago that if I had written a book on Focus 4 six months
ago I'd want to scrap it already. My knowledge gets updated every week..."

I'm not sure I want to believe Frank on all of his F 4 oC claims, if he changes
his mind on a short notice.

What do you think?

Does the quote of Frank above, put doubts in your ideas?


Page 1109-1110, Frank on F 4 false awakenings:
"The other thing is, the further "out" you go, the longer it takes for you to
orientate yourself in the physical again. When I have a Focus 4 experience I
normally have to endure a number of what are generally called false awakenings,
or “false physicals” as I call them before I get properly oriented."


Page 1114, Frank talks about fraud & court of law:
"I mean, if someone is in the business of selling "past life readings" you need
to get people believing in the notion that they have had "past" lives. If everyone
were to realise that within subjective reality there is no time, so there can be
no past or future, then anyone trying to sell a "past-life reading" would be
a laughing stock. But there is nothing to the contrary you can prove in a
court of law (yet) so the mystics get away with it. I call it Psychic Fraud."

"Prove" in court of law.

Psychic Fraud.

Well...

Frank could at least "prove" his claim by telling us upon which experiences he
base his opinion that there doesn't exist any past lives.

Prove.

(The interested reader could read the full page 1114. Frank bashes hard on
nameless "mystics". Frank's tone is almost personal.)



Page 1116, Frank on "focuses", but not the ones you think of:
""Past Lives" is a belief construct that is gaining popularity. But within
subjective reality there is no such thing as linear time. You DO have other
focuses that you can merge with, but they are NOT you. You are you and they
are they."

Ok.

Now...

"Focuses" are not F 1, F 4, etc. "Focuses" in this context are other people,
both incarnates and discarantes. Exactly what makes them a "focus", Frank
doesn't explain. Frank doesn't believe in the concept of an I-There, so
Frank's "focuses" becomes just another mystery.

And...

In F 4 oC, all "focuses" exists at the same "time", because F 4 oC is "subjective"
(God, I hate that word when used by Frank) reality.

Why does Frank want to create this mess? First he uses the same word for focus
as Monroe already used. And now Frank use the focus to describe this other type
of focus, which is not the first kind of focus of Frank and certainly not a
Monroe focus.

In fact, by introducing the concept of "focus" being a person in F 4 oC, Frank
has become the kind of "mystic" he so often talks degrading of.

(The interested reader may read page 1117 too, as Frank says a few more words
about these "focuses".)

Needless to say, Frank gives no detailed experiences of his findings.

Do you trust him?



Page 1119, Frank talks about creating and dissipating "etheric" bodies:
"Anyhow, for complete involvement within the RTZ you can create an “etheric body”.
When you refocus within the physical your etheric body then “dies” it dissipates,
it's no longer required, and the experience is over, finished, etheric-body gone.
Next time you want to experience the RTZ you simply create another one, experience
what you want to experience and, when you have finished with the body you created
it dissipates (dies) and so on and so forth, ad infinitum."

Ok, Frank.

You think RTZ OBEs creates "etheric" bodies.

Based on what experience of yours?

Based on WHAT experience!

And you say that the etheric body dissipates, dies.

Based on WHAT experience?

A detailed experience.

Please.

Oh, Frank, you have so much become a mystic with all your claims and so little
to back it up, and also contradicting a lot of other OBE:ers.

You have to explain.



Page 1123, Frank goes mystic to the core:
"I freely admit that I (for one) do not have the full answers. I will not get
them until I can take in the full picture of Focus 4 of consciousness. I am not
even sure whether it is actually possible for a physically focused individual
to take in that full picture."

Ok.

Frank wants us to believe all his silly claims about F 4 oC. But he isn't
sure any incarnate ever will take in the full picture.

If that is not Frank go Mystic, I don't know what a mystic is.

Believe Frank, but don't require him to explain himself.

A Mystic.

Yes.


Page 1124, Frank dedicates a full page to the land of no-logic on reality and
reincarnations.

Frank, if you mean what you write, then you REALLY should have given SOME
detailed experiences of yours. Unless you created all your F 4 oC claims
when you in fact were stuck in F 22.


Page 1134, Frank on RB:
"Robert Bruce is clearly on record as saying that when it comes to the "Astral"
side of things he relied heavily on Eastern esoteric thinking. His expertise is
"energy work" and "real-time zone". ... It is just that none of this is actually
necessary to learn about the wider reality.

A bricklayer is not an architect."

A Master of F 22 is not a bricklayer.


Page 1134, Frank on RTZ:
"For the record, the real-time zone is actually the physical."

Ok.

Define "physical"!

I know that atoms and photons are physical.

Is the RTZ made of atoms and photons?

Is it?

Based on what experiences of Frank?


Page 1135, Frank on stopping "the mystics":
"In that vein, the New-Age religionists of today would have us going to work in
manure-powered cars and sucking crystals for breakfast. It is high time all the
rot was halted. It is high time the mystics were stopped in their tracks...
Just ego-tripping nonsense about individuals wanting to feel superior."

Ohh...

Sucking crystals.

Frank really seems to speak for freedom of beliefs. Not.

Perhaps I should point out that some people have had successes with crystals.
For example Kurt Leland managed to get an astral being inhabit one crystal he
used during his healing courses.


Throughout the PDF and certainly at the end of the Frank PDF, Frank makes a lot
of claims about what Monroe thought and didn't thought, which I don't recognize.


Page 1148, Frank on F 11:
"...Focus 2 of the Phasing Model. This area in consciousness would incorporate
the Monroe individual attention focuses of the top branches of F10 (or F11 as
I personally think of it though Monroe never specified an F11)..."

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Monroe already specified a Focus 11. That's the Focus you enter when listening to
a TMI Hemi-Sync HumanPlus CD. That's F 11. Monroe's F 11. The "Access Channel".


Page 1153, Frank on an odd road:
"If you keep mentally reaching forwards, or simply remain still and detune your
awareness, you will at some point phase through your own area of mind and end up
on the "other side" of it, as it were. At focus 12 you are at the beginning of it,
and the other end is focus 21..."

Oh...

"Your own area"? Between F 12 - F 21?

To me it seems plausible that Frank has it all mixed up.

Anyone having read FJ knows that F 12 is far from "your own area".
Anyone having read Moen's 3rd book knows F 15 is far from "your own area".


Page 1171-1172, Frank on chakras again:
"...I never now use the word Chakra... There are bodily energy centres that pertain
to our physical form. ... Again, I present the notion that creative energies tend
to spin clockwise."

Hmm...

Spin clockwise?

Is this "spin clockwise" something Frank has seen? Or read from a web site?

Do they "spin clockwise" from what direction? When Frank looks at someone?
When he look "down" into his physical body? When seen from behind? Also,
these energy centres, are they flat, two-dimensional, or three dimensional?

So many questions. And a few puzzling claims from Frank, as he pretend to remove
the "mystic's" veil, from the concept of chakras.

Isn't Frank using some big words? "I present the notion..."

So it is Frank who presents this idea?

Not any mystics?

Isn't that "spin clockwise" exactly what many Hindi gurus already have said
for decades?



Throughout the PDF, Frank is invalidating several experiences by Monroe & Moen,
such as the I-There/Disk, Focus 34/35 and the existence and usefulness of PUL.

At the same time Frank gives very few experiences to back up some of his more
remarkable or outright illogical claims.

One thread where Gandalf asked some questions about Frank's objective subjective
worlds are here; try to get it if you can, I don't:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/question_about_subjective_vs_objective_reality-t17428.0.html

My own opinion on Frank's objective subjectivism? I don't think Frank knew what
he was talking about, as he uses two words that are mutually exclusive.

Frank doesn't say little about the purpose of phasing to the astral.

And Frank never mentions Moen's Probe Concept or Monroe Graduation concept. I
really don't think Frank ever got it together. I really don't think Frank ever
managed to understand Monroe's or Moen's description of the astral.

A huge amount of Frank's posts is descriptions on how to phase in various
ways, like the canon-ball method or how to reach F 12 or the 3-D blackness.
The repetition of things already stated is so overwhelming that I sometimes
am under the impression that Frank used most of his time trying to phase,
and it is at the same time unclear to me how well he succeeded, as his
description of actual astral experiences are so few.

Also taking into account that Frank seemed to like writing lengthy posts
on the forum, it becomes even more strange that he wrote so few experiences
of his own, showing almost nothing in forum posts.

At times it surprises me how often Frank talks about what you can _not_ do in
order to have an OBE. The end result is that Frank has a tendency to invalidate
various methods proposed by other sources or authors, while Frank at the same
time gives sort of very fuzzy explanations. Frank often talks about how you
need to "mental understand" the astral in order to project, which I think often
moves the reader into a catch-22.

I don't think Frank managed to retrieve any Aspects of Self.

Sometimes Frank diverted people to Ginny or Jeff_Mash, for example on the
subject of retrievals.

Reading all Frank's posts and looking at the lack of him giving his own
experiences is really very, very provoking at times. I lack an explanation
to the fact that Frank seldom writes about his own experiences.

Maybe things would have been different if he had been more humble, for example
to his guides?



What perhaps puzzles me at the end of this read, is why Frank was so negative
to "mystics"? I know of very few skilled OBE:ers who actively attack other
skilled astral explorers.

Normally there are more respect between people.

[Xanth]

You did a *REVIEW* of Franks posts?  O_o
Posts... his personal views and opinions... and you review them?

It's a compilation of posts dude.  As such, it's unreviewable.

I compiled it so people didn't have to go searching around the forums for Franks posts and so people could search through them faster.

[personalreality]

It's just a bunch of posts put together in one PDF so that members didn't have to search through the forum for Frank posts.

It's not really something that can be reviewed like a book.

You're giving a bad review to forum posts?

I think I'll start doing that.

Pauli, this post gets a 2 out of 10.   

I'm just messin with you pauli.

But I do like that you gave instructions on how to tackle the immense collection of posts compiled in the PDF.  That is very useful.

[Xanth]

Pauli, this post gets a 2 out of 10.   

You're generous! 

0.5/10 

[personalreality]

how about (i don't know why it made it scrolly, but i want to make sure everyone knows this is a joke, 100% right at the start)
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[Xanth]

how about
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Add another hundred dozen zeros, and you'll be close!  LOL

[Stookie_]

Yeah, there is a LOT missing. Not all of Frank's posts got saved, and it's really hard to read them in context with the conversations that were going on at the time. He wrote these posts over a long period of time.

Keep in mind that a good number of advanced AP'ers have said they've enjoyed and agree with many of Franks contributions.

[Summerlander]

Kepple's Wider Reality resonates with me. He had his own model and way of looking at things. He had his own beliefs. I don't hold many of the things he believed in but...the content he described...the CONTENT he DESCRIBED...I have experienced that. The first time I read about his model of reality and consciousness I couldn't stop going "yep, yep...I know what you are talking about, dude..."

By the way, the first post is as meaningful as this to me:

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[light487]

Hrmm.. the review is seemingly as long as the thing being reviewed.. hehehhe..

Essentially, all that needed to be said is:

READING INSTRUCTIONS

How should you read the Frank PDF?

Well, first you should read the Frank Resource, composed by Gandalf:
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

If you still want more Frank stuff, you could read the PDF, but be warned, you
have already read the better parts in the Frank Resource, so now everything
will go downhill.

Of the Frank PDF, I would suggest first reading pages 598 - 939. Those pages have
the size of a fair book, in fact 342 pages of "fun", and you will get the saner
part of Frank's posts. If you still feel that you want to know more of Frank,
then read pages 940 - 1187, but be prepared to accept that Frank's writing now
deteriorates and Frank repeats himself a lot.

At this stage, make a pause and really ask yourself if you want to read anything
more of the Frank PDF. If you can't get enough of Frank's style of writing, finally
read pages 1 - 597.

Plenty of information there. Means I can download the PDF, skip through to where the interesting stuff happens and go from there..

[Pauli2]

EDIT: Deleted spammers quote ~Xanth

Would it be possible for you Moderators, to block any new member
from posting URL links for their 10 first posts to stop this spamming?

Moderators?

[Stillwater]

That is a very obvious, yet hitherto unimplemented solution. Let me see if we can get Adrian to add that feature...

[Lionheart]

 I just wanted to add a small reminder here. This entire review is Pauli's viewpoint. Frank is no longer with us, so he can not defend anything that is being said here. Pauli does not use Frank's technique of Phasing so it is hard for someone who doesn't practice Phasing to see and understand what is actually going on. I myself do not practice the climbing out of the body technique, which is a highly successful technique achieved by other people and for that reason can not have anything useful pro or con to say other than my personal opinion of it. I personally find it has too much focus on the physical body for my liking.
 This is not a personal attack on Pauli, this is just stating the facts.
 Thank you!

[Szaxx]

Hi,
I must say I tried the rope and others with zero success. In all the years thats kinda wierd. I don't think of the physical at all, thats fatal, its a no win thing. Its easier just phasing until the 3d blackness comes (my safe zone).

[todd421757]

Hi,
I must say I tried the rope and others with zero success. In all the years thats kinda weird. I don't think of the physical at all, thats fatal, its a no win thing. Its easier just phasing until the 3d blackness comes (my safe zone).

I tried phasing for awhile and couldn't even come close to any results. On the other hand, I have been very successful at slipping out of my body the old-fashioned way. This is interesting why one person can only exit by slipping out of the body and another person can only phase.

Maybe Alice Bailey was correct when she talked about the seven rays. Each of us has a predominant major ray and possibly some minor rays that make up our spiritual personality. This would explain why we may not all operate the same spiritually. Below is a link to the seven rays:

http://www.einterface.net/gamini/rays.html