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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 03:11:08 » |
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You might have the wrong idea of what phasing actually is.
At it's most basic, it's reducing the sensory input for the physical body until "other" senses begin to kick in. And actually... in the end... that's really what *ALL* projection techniques are.
I can actually whittle down any technique anyone has into it's base parts.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 03:25:05 » |
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At it's most basic, it's reducing the sensory input for the physical body until "other" senses begin to kick in. And actually... in the end... that's really what *ALL* projection techniques are.
Slipping out of the body is different than phasing. Phasing (from reading others experiences) has a heightened sense or senses. Slipping out of the body (etheric projection) has a reduction of senses. Many times etheric projection has no senses except the etheric motion sense which feels like you're a drunk stumbling along. While reading other's experiences very carefully, you will see when they try to force "clarity now" during an etheric projection, their visual sense becomes heightened. This is when the dream-like inconsistencies start making their way into the etheric plane (RTZ). I stopped forcing "clarity now" in my projections. I have since always remained in the RTZ with no slipping into a lucid dream. I know we are programmed by society to use our visual sense predominately to function. It took me years to deprogram it, so I could have OBE's that weren't interfered with dream images. It was a hard habit to break. This is how we can prove OBE's can be more than subconscious mind trips.
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 11:25:55 » |
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Hi, Two different exits or types of projection is interesting. Frank in his posts says dream exits leave you less aware. Phasing exits are far in excess respecting your level of awareness. This is true from experience but both can yield the same level with practice. Being able to go astral then instantly enter the RTZ via intense intent is also easy, if these are two different body forms then whats the difference? Frank doesn't answer this as far as ive read. Interesting though.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 16:15:10 » |
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You might have the wrong idea of what phasing actually is.
At it's most basic, it's reducing the sensory input for the physical body until "other" senses begin to kick in. And actually... in the end... that's really what *ALL* projection techniques are.
I can actually whittle down any technique anyone has into it's base parts.
Yeah, they are the same things with very different results. A classic separation happens in the etheric (RTZ), and phasing skips the etheric and "phases" you directly into the astral. While what is happening is similar, it's good do understand the differences.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 04:37:52 » |
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Hi, if these are two different body forms then whats the difference? Frank doesn't answer this as far as ive read. Interesting though.
The silver cord can be used to answer many questions. I know there are many here on this forum that don't believe in the silver cord. But if you are like me and do believe in it, then read the information below. I believe phasing just moves the mental segment part of the silver cord out of the body, while the classic OBE's move a much greater portion of silver cord out of the body. The only part of the silver cord that doesn't come out while living is the silver cord attachment to the heart. That only comes out after death (after the life review). Here is an image of the entire silver cord: http://www.rosicrucian.com/images/scsen002.gifHere is a free Max Heindel ebook that talks about all of this in much greater detail: http://www.rosicrucian.com/scs/scseng01.htm
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2012, 06:17:45 » |
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I'd like to chime in here.
The reason this is a piece of gold is because it is a sincere case study of someone who seems to claim to have had proficiency in the field of astral projection.
What is not important is the facts or claims. (i.e. met a musical dog, or has a theory about F45, etc.) but taking it as a series of personal comments. Don't listen to what he says, but empathize and try to understand what he is trying to explain.
Describing projection is going to be a series of metaphors and similes. Expect it. It has to be. We have no distinct words with a high degree of consensus to describe wat we are experiencing. Its the blind men and the elephant parable all over again.
So don't read it as him being a guru. Read it as him just being another blind man. True understanding can only come from within anyway, not from without. That's how you read this 'book'.
8.6/10
Cheers, Contenteo
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 08:38:57 » |
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Hi, Can it be put into a pdf so I can use my tts engine? Im using andriod and not sure how. Thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 14:06:13 » |
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Hi, Can it be put into a pdf so I can use my tts engine? Im using andriod and not sure how. Thanks.
It is in PDF format. You can download it from my website, the link is in my sig. I'd like to chime in here.
The reason this is a piece of gold is because it is a sincere case study of someone who seems to claim to have had proficiency in the field of astral projection.
What is not important is the facts or claims. (i.e. met a musical dog, or has a theory about F45, etc.) but taking it as a series of personal comments. Don't listen to what he says, but empathize and try to understand what he is trying to explain.
Describing projection is going to be a series of metaphors and similes. Expect it. It has to be. We have no distinct words with a high degree of consensus to describe wat we are experiencing. Its the blind men and the elephant parable all over again.
So don't read it as him being a guru. Read it as him just being another blind man. True understanding can only come from within anyway, not from without. That's how you read this 'book'.
8.6/10
Cheers, Contenteo Very beautifully put. 
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2012, 02:48:41 » |
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One thing I read while re-reading this PDF recently is that he says "in my book...".. what book? where is it? I want it!  Is there actually a book that Frank has written? I can't find it.. did he write it under a pseudoname?
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 04:58:30 » |
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Frank was writing a book, "Astral Projection Truth". As far as anyone knows, it was never released. It's probably hidden away, lost on some hard drive somewhere in the world right now. 
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 05:24:29 » |
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Oh that's a shame....
The PDF is good.. and it has a lot of good information in it.. but a book is just so much more structured and easier to follow etc
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 10:08:58 » |
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Pauli2....WOW. Is all I can really say!
Your review starts with "This review may not be without faults".....Well, let me be the first to say that that is THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR. Your review is so fault laden I dont even know where to begin.
Your review of Franks PDF Pauli2 is as credible as a blind person reviewing a Kandinksy or a Van Gogh.
It appears to me that you have absolutely ZERO actual, practical projection-phasing experience in any way shape or form. And so from the very outset one should be particularly skeptical of your review of Franks PDF or any other book on AP. Why? Because you are coming at all of this from a strictly left brain perspective...and, well, to put it bluntly, that just wont work. In a way you remind me of some of my old professors at university...they are comfortable hiding behind the walls of academia...behind those walls, boy, they are geniuses at whatever it is they are teaching or preaching about! But, toss them out into the real world....and, ouch! It can get pretty difficult for them out there.
My advice to you Pauli2 is to spend more time doing and less time talking and reviewing.
Franks PDF is simply one of the very BEST things a person who is interested in projecting their consciousness can read. There are so many treasures in there...so many golden nuggets just waiting to be picked up. But then again, you have to actually DO the exercises....start projecting....start having moderate successes...and then keep reading Franks Posts and it makes more and more sense every time you read it. Only after several fully conscious, fully controlled projection experiences can you even begin to appreciate the genius of this man Frank. And it just grows from there.
I give Franks posts a 15 on a scale of 1-10. And Pauli2 I give your review a 0 on a scale of 1-10.
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