diphenhydramine and lucid dream practice....maybe this could help!:)

[psychedelia]

ok ive been doing research on drugs for dream enhancement and lucid dream help/training and ive finally came across a specific on what i was looking for. ok we all know what diphenhydramine is and its uses....well most people claim it puts em in to deep of a sleep to recall dreams well i have a solution there!!!!:)......ok i use to use dph as a mind altering substance and i could never explain the realistic hallucinations like id be sittin there tired and next thing ya know i get up turn on my tv get food and black out i had never moved or im sittin there and a doctor walks into my room and talks to me and it feels so real......just like a dream and infact dph can cause waking dreams thus with this as a tool to practice retaining awareness such as reality checks in these crazy states and trying to begin to manipulate the enviroment     think of the possiblities a lucid dream dang near on command!

i am going to try this tonight and post back later tomorrow or next day for my findings on this theory:)

[psychedelia]

just for the safety of everyone please be careful your first time trying this ok HAVE!A!TRIP!SITTER!!!  they are greatly needed only once experienced should you trip it alone ok....diliriants are very very powerful hallucinogens be warned they can amaze you and yet harm you if your not prepared......everything will seem real even if its not trust me i know    and ps you will talk nonsense at times   such as what is your favorite character on that 70's show    oh well dont you need sugar for your tea??

[Xanth]

Just to note... we (The Astral Pulse) don't condone the use of mind altering chemicals in the search and journey towards altered states of mind.

If you can't do it yourself... keep practicing until you can.  The journey is half the reason for doing this.

[psychedelia]

just throwing out there, could not even work haha i havent done dph in a long time.....its not the kinda thing ya wanna do alot lol

[Stookie_]

I think it's been demonstrated by proficient projectors over the years that AP/LD/OBE takes a certain amount of skill, so while you may be able to induce an altered state of consciousness, you're going to lack the skill in making it successful without proper practice. There's so much more to it than just altered consciousness.

Take concentration for example - there are supplements that may help your existing concentration skill, but the willing aspect of concentration (especially in regards to AP/LD/OBE) is a skill that takes practice and that you can hone indefinitely. And you won't be able hone anything when your under the influence.