dreams that really hurt?

[jackmac13]

Hi everyone..
So I have a question about pain in dreams.
Firstly I don't usually have dreams that involve pain but over the last few nights I've felt the WORST pain in my life due to something thats happened in dreams. it has never been the same incident that causes the pain. I've been stung by a scorpion, shot in the stomach, stabbed in the chest and shot in the back. always a different scenario and always a pain I now am convinced is the one you feel when one of these things happens in waking life. not that I've ever had any of them happen. also, for some reason nobody ever seem to wants to help me, people seem to be more interested in getting me to lye down somewhere and shutup. So is there some kind of meaning to this kinda thing or what?
I can explain each dream in more detail if required or if anyone just want's to hear about it..
Thanks all

[Xanth]

You can subconsciously create any kind of pain you want... the limit is literally your own imagination.
Whatever you *THINK* the pain for any particular event will be, that is what you'll experience.

[blis]

Maybe subconsciously you're worried about being attacked.

Maybe you're reliving how you died in previous lives.

Maybe they're all premonitions and you're going to have a really bad day lol (just kidding)

Maybe, and this is usually the case in my dreams, theres a deeper meaning that only you will be able to perceive and only then with a good bit of thought and introspection. Do you know the people who shoot/stab you in the dreams? If so, what part of your own personality might they represent? A certain aspect of your behaviour might be causing you harm or pain and your subconscious is trying to let you know you should change. What qualities/characteristics do you associate with scorpions?

Sometimes dreams can be all about you, the people you dream about can represent part of yourself or things that you do, the objects in the dream also can, same goes for what actually happens. If a dream seems significant to me I look at it from as many different angles as possible until I come up with the meaning that seems right to me. Just keep asking yourself questions. Think of dreams as your subconscious trying to communicate with you using imagery as if you're playing a really complex game of pictionary. If you could only communicate using imagery what message do you think you would use that scenario for?

[NoY]

it could be a parasite using you as a human shield 

:NoY:

[Xanth]

it could be a parasite using you as a human shield 

:NoY:

... O_o

Ignore him.  LoL

[Pauli2]

You should try to find out the reasons for your dreams yourself. One way to start is to write them down. Then write down what feelings you had in the dream. Then write down your current feelings about the dream. And then try to analyze your dreams. It all depends on context.

Like this:

Stung by a scorpion could mean different things to different persons.

One person might interpret it as a warning for his adventures wild-life hiking and remind him about last year's bite he got in his leg by a grizzly. Another one might interpret it as she should go for this new job offer she got (her current job has a company logo that resembles a scorpion). One person might feel happiness in conjunction with the pain and interpret it that he should increase his work to complete his new house at Scorpio Hills, VA (no pain, no gain).

[personalreality]

... O_o

Ignore him.  LoL

what if he's right?

[Stillwater]

it could be a parasite using you as a human shield 

Robert Bruce has a few books you can buy for pyschic defense against entities using you as a means of psychic defense... unless of course the entities have psychic defense against you using psychic defense as a means to prevent them from using you as a means of psychic defense.

Then you would need another order of psyhic defense, and Lewis Carrol to sort out the details for you.

[Xanth]

Robert Bruce has a few books you can buy for pyschic defense against entities using you as a means of psychic defense... unless of course the entities have psychic defense against you using psychic defense as a means to prevent them from using you as a means of psychic defense.

Then you would need another order of psyhic defense, and Lewis Carrol to sort out the details for you.

My preferred method, which Robert Bruce would never teach because it would kill some of his cash flow, is to just *KNOW* I'm always metaphysically safe. 
If he taught that... then, yeah, he'd lose out on a lot of money.

[Stillwater]

Well... maybe you are, and maybe your aren't. You can't really say with certainty there aren't psychic baddies "nibbling your aura". I am can confidently say there is probably no one here, including Bruce, that can definitively declare that there either are or aren't negative entities that feed on people's energies.

But yes, why get yourself worked up about something you can never really know for sure? Even if you should see one you could never be sure it wasn't a mental construct.

[Xanth]

Well... maybe you are, and maybe your aren't. You can't really say with certainty there aren't psychic baddies "nibbling your aura". I am can confidently say there is probably no one here, including Bruce, that can definitively declare that there either are or aren't negative entities that feed on people's energies.

But yes, why get yourself worked up about something you can never really know for sure? Even if you should see one you could never be sure it wasn't a mental construct.

All I can tell people is that I've never, in all my life, experienced anything of that sort.  Never... not once...
I can assume that it's either because it doesn't exist or it's because of my mindset/belief.  Your choice is as good as mine. 

[CFTraveler]

My preferred method, which Robert Bruce would never teach because it would kill some of his cash flow, is to just *KNOW* I'm always metaphysically safe.  
If he taught that... then, yeah, he'd lose out on a lot of money.

Actually, he does teach it, in the form of affirmations.

http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=21106&p=134077#p134077
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20879&p=133739#p133739
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20736&p=131833#p131833

 But never mind me, continue bashing.

[Xanth]

Actually, he does teach it, in the form of affirmations.

http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=21106&p=134077#p134077
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20879&p=133739#p133739
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20736&p=131833#p131833

 But never mind me, continue bashing.

My apologies, I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Mr Bruce.  :/

But, I just disagree with some things he teaches... and I don't believe those threads show contrary to my statements.

[Naykid]

Careful where you tread Xanth.. I went down this road and it isn't all that fun.  

Looking back on it all, I wish I would have just allowed people to believe they were being attacked by an entities.. instead I thought I had to save them.  It's best to just let people learn for themselves.  Plus, I put so much of my energy into trying to convince these people that I got pulled into their reality and started having some pretty awful experiences and I was like you, I had not had too bad of experiences up until I made it my reality.

When I was a child I used to have this one experience where something would claw onto my back.. it was like being tortured by being tickled. Hard to explain.  It didn't hurt, per say, but it was like being tickled a bit too hard and being tickled was torture for me.  It went away after awhile, I basically would ignore it when it happened.  I wonder, if I had Mr. Bruce telling me that it was this or that... would I have ignored it? or freaked out even more?  I think it would have been the latter.

[Stillwater]

My apologies, I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Mr Bruce.  :/

But, I just disagree with some things he teaches...

This is my position as well. He has done great things for the subject and those practicing. He is also a major theoritician though, and I think it is reasonable to say there are things that make sense in his reasoning, and other things which seem to need more grounding than he provides, such as his ideas about energy bodies and their structure. One can safely respect what Bruce has done for the community while not accepting all he theorizes.