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Author Topic: First meeting with spiritual guide?  (Read 347 times)
Sammie
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« on: June 18, 2017, 10:50:20 »

So I woke up directly after a sequence in a dream, almost like it had been meant to happen for me to remember. I have said many times that I have never met my spiritual guides in dreams or OBEs for some reason. I always figured it had to do with letting me learning some stuff before they help me or because I in a dimension too low for them or something.

However, tonight I found myself walking down a street from my old neighborhood and for some reason knocking on an old man's door. I was invited in and asked if he had anything interesting for sale or something, I think he showed me a couple of things but don't remember. He then started to say a lot of things and became wiser by the moment, something didn't make sense and it was like he was someone else(even though I didn't really know him).

Soon enough he began to transform into some weird robotic alien creature, which then turned out to be a fear-test of some sort, and then the disguise was gone and this creature became a woman. I got a very strong sense this was a spiritual guide to me of some sort. I could sense her eagerness to help me explain why I have not been able to exit into OBE consciously by will. This guide I could feel also was very neutral and didn't really seem to care much about the whole situation, but somehow I could feel this guide at the same time wanted to help me understand..? Then she went on to say that the main problem why I won't astral project by will is because that if
a part of my body is not comfortable it won't happen and she gave one other reason I forgot. She also kind of with her mind showed me how a part cannot be uncomfortable in a certain way, because if it felt that way I wouldn't happen for some reason? I immediately woke up after this but forgot the second reason she gave me. I could feel she had woken me up intentionally for me to remember this which made me very happy!

First of all I have never had any help whatsoever in OBEs neither in dreams. Second of all I have never met someone who has tried to help me with these matters. I hope and look forward to a continued relationship of help from this or other guides/persons. I am really happy I finally got someone to try and help me with greater knowledge even though I don't remember it all.

My question is now, why would they/she choose to help me now after so many years? Also I am very surprised they choose to help me in a dream instead of an OBE or something. Any thoughts? Btw I was not really conscious during the dream, but rather observing what was happening after the "me" in the dream started realizing something was not quite right with that man. I also have a slight memory of the house transforming into a ship(ufo) of some sort when the guide behind the fear-test finally appeared. It was almost like when you are afraid but try to exit your body anyway, that sort of thing happened but in a dream?
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 13:32:50 »

For first, OBE = "dream". You are in a different reality, it could be your subconscious (Frank's FoC2) and the guide or helper helped you because it could be the right time. If you practiced OBE/phasing (call whatever) and now somebody wants to help you with these infos, it is for a reason (maybe you was unsuccessful for a long time and had a bad experience this way, not achieving it). So these labels as dreams and OBEs and others are all the same with different levels of awareness.

Let me tell a personal experience. I still can't initiate own phasing fully or "OBE" (you are not leaving any "body", you just think so you are), but the first thing when I began this journey and learning route is that I had physical awareness in the NP whenever I was asleep at night. Simply just you realise you are in countless other realities, universes and you are doing whatever you would like to. The issue is just the process has the blackout from falling asleep until gaining awareness in the NP after a while. You lose some hours maybe at the beginning physically, but in the NP you could easily be there for days too. No need for fancy hocus pocus methods, just learn to program you subconscious mind (F2) with your desires and you will get it.

Guides could be from different sources what I experienced. They could be your other aspects from your bigger self, or maybe some of them are with you from behind the scenes from years or from birth (or longer) and some are just coming and going with certain tasks. It is like you are going on a street and see somebody searching for a street or something, you stop, tell the direction and you are disappeared for her/him. The intention was the thing.

If you could write down what happened and you observed, you were conscious Cheesy You are that person, who observes through filters as how we live "here".

Reality fluctuations and forms changing are natural "there", you will get used to it and understand them over time.
I think you should rather let OBE practice alone and focus on asking for bigger awareness before you sleep. Not just ask, tell it in your mind with straight sentences in simple present tense. I hope I helped.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 16:37:44 »

Congrats. This sounds like you attracted contact with your non-physical aspects (guidance).

While my first contact with guidance was during an OBE, the majority of my contacts since have been in fuzzy dreams. I have learned that this is because when dreaming we are seeing more like they see. To use a metaphor, our non-physical aspects do NOT have the focus that we have. As humans, our focus is more like a flashlight (very focused and direct). For our non-physical aspects, the metaphor is broader and expansive (e.g., the lighting is everywhere, but not focused). Our flashlight focus can also influence the perceptions and experience of our non-physical aspects.

Some of your initial interpretations about your experience do not resonate with me. I will point to two items to consider to keep this simple.

(1) Your concern about having OBE's may only be because of your focus (e.g., your flashlight influencing your guidance's focus), so do not impose too much upon this. I have found that inner guidance is much less concerned with whether I have OBE's or not. If you desire to pursue her advice about your OBE's and body, then that is fine. Overall, know that your guidance is not as concerned about having OBE's or phasing as some people on this forum are. There is a lot of peer pressure here towards that singular experience.

(2) You will find (over time) that your inner being is composed of many personas or threads. This female is only one thread or aspect. The perception of individuality in your dream is due to your own focus (e.g., like a flashlight). Human sees things individually, and bring that perception into the dream experience (e.g., a biological brain translation). The non-physical does NOT see things individually. So, you may meet more personas as you begin to resonate with those aspects of your inner being. Communication with guidance during waking moments of each day (especially in meditation) will engender these introductions. I met another aspect of my own guidance this last week during my morning meditation while in focus 10.

I have one final bit of 'physical' advice. Make sure that you are writing everything down. As human, the biological brain translates these experiences (e.g., the dream download just before waking). Additionally, the non-physical does not have "our human timing". They do experience 'duration' but they are not constricted by time because they no longer have physical bodies. They are conscious mind (not biological brain). Therefore, I would suggest both writing and 'clustering' (you can google this term, it is form of creative, right-brain writing). I CANNOT emphasize this enough. Inner being may bring something forth months or even years later after you have asked about it.

Again, congrats. And remember that ... the better the question, the better the answer.
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