Frustrations With Almost-Lucid Dreams

[DeadSuperHero]

So, in several instances I've ended up in a dream where I began to realize that I was, in fact, dreaming. However, the realization that I am in a dream actually ends up causing a disruption in which I rapidly begin to wake up. One could almost equate it to a sort of "pulling downward" sensation in which one begins to feel outside of the dream very quickly.

I've tried a few techniques to remain in the dream itself. One solution that I've come across is spinning, which I've read confuses the mind's sense of place in such a way that it no longer can feel, say, the blanket on you, or the back of the bed. In theory, it's supposed to work, and to an extent it usually buys me an extra second or two of time.

But really, I'm at a bit of a loss about what to do. To be lucid, I think I need to have the realization that I am in fact dreaming (in order to attempt manipulating aspects of it), but I need to do so in a way that doesn't cause me to wake up.

I can imagine quite a few people here have struggled with this problem at some point, so can anyone offer any tips as to what might have worked for them? I could compile a short-list of things to try and keep logs of them, night after night.

[Xanth]

Spinning generally works for me... HOWEVER, yes, sometimes there's just nothing you can do to stop the waking process.
In those cases, I can generally *FEEL* that I'm waking up... when that happens, I can actually wake up, yet keep my physical body still and my eyes closed.
This allows you to retain a Focus 10/12 mental state, which then allows you to slip back into the dream rather quickly.  When I do this, if I just lie there not moving and successfully kept my eyes close it's only a matter of seconds before I feel the shift back to the lucid awareness experience.

Give that a shot and see what happens. 

I wrote an article about it when I discovered that I actually did it one morning:
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/26/phasing-method-dont-open-your-eyes-when-you-wake/

[NoY]

this meditation method can help with stabilising the lucid dream read PR second post

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/help_for_beginers-t32612.0.html

:NoY:

[Naykid]

I've been going back into my dreams for years, in fact I posted an old thread of mine not to long ago, but no one commented on it. 

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/personal_record-t24869.0.html;msg208696;topicseen#msg208696

I haven't passed this amount yet, but I've been close.

So.. anyone else want to share their personal best?

[DeadSuperHero]

I made some progress yesterday. I essentially tried a "Self-Denial" technique (although I wasn't it was an actual technique at the time).

Essentially, I was able to be aware that I was dreaming, then work around the awakening by asking "Am I dreaming?" several times, and answering "Nahhh..." each time. It's interesting that my brain freaks out if I admit that I'm dreaming, but doesn't when I admit the opposite.

I'll keep reading up on techniques to initiate a Lucid Dream and let everyone know of my result!

[Xanth]

I made some progress yesterday. I essentially tried a "Self-Denial" technique (although I wasn't it was an actual technique at the time).

Essentially, I was able to be aware that I was dreaming, then work around the awakening by asking "Am I dreaming?" several times, and answering "Nahhh..." each time. It's interesting that my brain freaks out if I admit that I'm dreaming, but doesn't when I admit the opposite.

I'll keep reading up on techniques to initiate a Lucid Dream and let everyone know of my result!

With that in mind, it kind of sounds like your protective sense of awareness is shutting things down on you because it's not something that's "of the norm" for you to experience.

I think the more you experience Lucid Awareness in the Non-physical, the more you'll become familiar with it and the more your protective sense of awarness' guard will let down. 

[DeadSuperHero]

I think the more you experience Lucid Awareness in the Non-physical, the more you'll become familiar with it and the more your protective sense of awarness' guard will let down.

That's my thinking, too. I'm just going to keep trying everyday, until I get something.

I am a little disappointed. I tried some binaural beats yesterday, and while they were really nice to just lay back with my eyes closed and enjoy various sensations associated with the experience, it didn't really seem to do all that much, either.

[Xanth]

That's my thinking, too. I'm just going to keep trying everyday, until I get something.

I am a little disappointed. I tried some binaural beats yesterday, and while they were really nice to just lay back with my eyes closed and enjoy various sensations associated with the experience, it didn't really seem to do all that much, either.

I created a really nice BB yesterday that I tried last night... which seemed to work REALLY WELL.
I'm going to zip it up and upload it to my website later today.  I'll provide a link to it here when I'm done. 

The BB I made has a base 100hz...
The BB frequency portion of it starts at 32hz, and progresses downwards to 4hz after 10 minutes... it holds there for 50 minutes, then brings you back up to 32hz over another 10 minutes.  There's a constant brown noise in the background to assist in drowning out any "outside" noise.

[The_One]

I had this problem a lot. I did try spinning, but that never worked. I found by keeping focused on characters or scenery in the dream I can stop from waking up. Problem with that though is keeping lucidity and not falling back into the dream. Also try not to think (O I'm dream, I'm going to wake up soon) because it will happen.