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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2006, 19:34:32 »

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On Mars.


Are you from there?

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You got a source for that claim?



Yeah.The leading Scientists of Genetics.go read their articules.


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I have no intention on ignoring my emotions.

My goal (one of them)is to totally eradicate them,so i become a being of pure intellect Smiley

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Glad i made you laugh,usually it takes clowns to make me laugh,but you have done it Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2006, 19:36:40 »

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But landing on the moon was an extension of a humans desire to explore and experience which has roots in emotional drives.


And the use of genetics is an extension of the human desires to evolve,to attain higher degrees of physical being.higher IQ,higher life span etc


If we are bent on  achieving Spiritual Perfection,why not,also Physical Perfection?



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No one is saying it is great or not. The fact is, you are human and while you are alive you simply cannot escape that. To try to deny it is just a futile act imo as even acting like an unemotional automaton would still make you a human trying to act unemtional.


The point of reincarnation is to make one learn how to ascend beyond the state of being human.

Yes i am human.at least i look like one.i tend to avoid what makes humans a Human.The human being is an animal which I'm not very fond of :p
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« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2006, 19:39:56 »

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The point of reincarnation is to make one learn how to ascend beyond the state of being human.



 Says who? We only become human by incarnating here surely? So if we wish to ascend humanity we could save a lot of time by not carnating in the first place?
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« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2006, 19:42:20 »

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And the use of genetics is an extension of the human desires to evolve,to attain higher degrees of physical being.higher IQ,higher life span etc


If we are bent on  achieving Spiritual Perfection,why not,also Physical Perfection?



 Because one persons idea of perfection is different from anothers. Its a purely relative concept which has no basis in anything. Your idea of perfection seems to be an emotionless, sexless existence with the end of all things which invoke emotion. Anothers idea of perfection might be quite the opposite of that.

For example, my idea of evolution and perfection has been realised by the author Ian M Banks in his "Cuture" civilisation - and this seems the exact opposite of your idea of perfection or an ascended state.
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« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2006, 19:44:27 »

Says The Buddha =o.

We became human because we choose(?) to experience  a faulty  body(?) but that troubles me because if i desire perfection,and if i  had the choise to be born on other species far more advanced than ours and thus experience that level of physical perfection i'm searching for altogether with Spiritual perfection,then what the hell am i doing here?! hehe.

or maybe we only have the chance to be born on those more evolved races after attaining a certain level as humans.

I dunno. I'll have to phone The Buddha for that one Tongue
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« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2006, 19:46:58 »

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And the use of genetics is an extension of the human desires to evolve,to attain higher degrees of physical being.higher IQ,higher life span etc


If we are bent on  achieving Spiritual Perfection,why not,also Physical Perfection?



 Because one persons idea of perfection is different from anothers. Its a purely relative concept which has no basis in anything. Your idea of perfection seems to be an emotionless, sexless existence with the end of all things which invoke emotion. Anothers idea of perfection might be quite the opposite of that.

For example, my idea of evolution and perfection has been realized by the author Ian M Banks in his "Cuture" civilisation - and this seems the exact opposite of your idea of perfection or an ascended state.



You got an ebook of that ? tongue

well,there's some emotions i would like to keep,creativity,fascinating,curiosity.

those are the traits that lead to Genius alongside of course.

Extremely high IQ. tongue
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« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2006, 19:47:28 »

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Says The Buddha =o.

We became human because we choose(?) to experience  a faulty  body(?) but that troubles me because if i desire perfection,and if i  had the choise to be born on other species far more advanced than ours and thus experience that level of physical perfection i'm searching for altogether with Spiritual perfection,then what the hell am i doing here?! hehe.

or maybe we only have the chance to be born on those more evolved races after attaining a certain level as humans.

I dunno. I'll have to phone The Buddha for that one Tongue


I'm not too sure the Buddha meant that. Something we should realise is that archaic philsopshies were based upon the understanding of their time. Although I think a lot of what they say still holds truth, we should modify things to suit our current understand of life, the universe and everything Wink Else we are just creating a tension between incompatible things.
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« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2006, 19:48:10 »

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On Mars.


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Are you from there?


Nope. Texas.

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You got a source for that claim?

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Yeah.The leading Scientists of Genetics.go read their articules.

Which leading scientists? Where can I find the articles?
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I have no intention on ignoring my emotions.

My goal (one of them)is to totally eradicate them,so i become a being of pure intellect Smiley

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 :locolaugh:  :orcmoon: :vavoom:


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Glad i made you laugh,usually it takes clowns to make me laugh,but you have done it Smiley


Clowns make you laugh? :eh?: I do not like clowns. :naughty: ANY clowns.
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« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2006, 19:51:15 »

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Nope. Texas.


Oh Texas,Usa.

Then i must correct myself,i'm sorry..



Another Universe.

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Which leading scientists? Where can I find the articles?


http://news.google.com/news?q=leading+scientists+of+genetics&hl=en&hs=VnW&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT:official_s&sa=N&tab=nn&oi=newsr

http://anthro.palomar.edu/mendel/mendel_1.htm

http://www.mrc.ac.uk/prn/index/public-interest/public-news_centre/public-press_office/public-press_releases_2003.htm


http://www.dundee.ac.uk/prospectus/undergrad/courses/biochem.htm

http://www.petergruberfoundation.org/geneticsmainframe.htm

http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/325/
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« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2006, 19:53:14 »

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Says The Buddha =o.

We became human because we choose(?) to experience  a faulty  body(?) but that troubles me because if i desire perfection,and if i  had the choise to be born on other species far more advanced than ours and thus experience that level of physical perfection i'm searching for altogether with Spiritual perfection,then what the hell am i doing here?! hehe.

or maybe we only have the chance to be born on those more evolved races after attaining a certain level as humans.

I dunno. I'll have to phone The Buddha for that one Tongue


I'm not too sure the Buddha meant that. Something we should realise is that archaic philsopshies were based upon the understanding of their time. Although I think a lot of what they say still holds truth, we should modify things to suit our current understand of life, the universe and everything Wink Else we are just creating
a tension between incompatible things.



Sometimes the simplest of all things is the most fulfilling.
btw The Buddha did not say that.
It was me.
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« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2006, 19:58:08 »

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You got an ebook of that ? tongue

well,there's some emotions i would like to keep,creativity,fascinating,curiosity.

those are the traits that lead to Genius alongside of course.

Extremely high IQ. tongue


 I haven't got an ebook, but the author wrote a synopsis of the culture:

http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~stefan/culture.html

The problem is creativity, fascination and curiosity have their roots in emotions. And so eradicating emotions eradicates them (or the things which drive them).
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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2006, 20:54:28 »

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Nope. Texas.


Oh Texas,Usa.

Then i must correct myself,i'm sorry..

Another Universe.


Not another universe.

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Which leading scientists? Where can I find the articles?


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Sources! Yay! I'll read them after I get home.

And now, a word on undoing bras: I was once awarded the most prestigious "Joe's Garage Chief Master One- Handed Bra Unhitcher" award-- three years in a row!
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And now, a word on undoing bras: I was once awarded the most prestigious "Joe's Garage Chief Master One- Handed Bra Unhitcher" award-- three years in a row!
 Impossible!  I already know the king of un-hooking bras. cheesy

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And now, a word on undoing bras: I was once awarded the most prestigious "Joe's Garage Chief Master One- Handed Bra Unhitcher" award-- three years in a row!
 Impossible!  I already know the king of un-hooking bras. cheesy

Nay grin


One or two handed?
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2006, 23:03:38 »

One... :whipU:
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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2006, 00:06:01 »

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You see,even though i see sex as a very archaic mean of reproducing i believe that when a person has sex with another one,both souls are connected forever.

i don't want that.


Being God is being All and being All is being connected to everything.

If you want to evolve - you can first learn to connect to just one person , then you can use this new skill to connect to All.
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« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2006, 14:13:48 »

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The problem is creativity, fascination and curiosity have their roots in emotions. And so eradicating emotions eradicates them (or the things which drive them).


Actually there was this American thinker who,i forgot his name,got trained by his father to be a thinker since he was a Little child and only actually developed emotions when he was a teenager.he learned Latin,Greek,etc at an age ranging from4-8 and published works too without the need for emotions.

The only necessary thing is someone who directs the being,who nurtures his intellect.
/ps-I'll give that link a reading,thanks!)
And let's not forget the gray Alien race who suppressed their emotions but display a GIGANTIC  level of intelligence =))


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If you want to evolve - you can first learn to connect to just one person , then you can use this new skill to connect to All.



Sorry,but I'm not much of a group person.
i don't think one needs to connects to someone to evolve,after all evolution is a matter of personal work,of course I'm talking about spiritual evolution in this situation.



Runola,

what the hell,first you want me to answer ya question,now you don't reply back -.-
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« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2006, 17:36:58 »

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Babies naturally express a certain amount of emotion, they smile, laugh and cry, feel happy and sad.. and thats without parents intervention. Whether you like it or not humans are born with emotion, its a defence mechanism and an evolutionary step which allows us to avoid dangers and to trust and love friends and family.

Saying this i'd still like to read about it, shame you cant remember the name  rolleyes .
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« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2006, 17:50:45 »

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and only actually developed emotions when he was a teenager


Babies naturally express a certain amount of emotion, they smile, laugh and cry, feel happy and sad.. and thats without parents intervention. Whether you like it or not humans are born with emotion, its a defence mechanism and an evolutionary step which allows us to avoid dangers and to trust and love friends and family.

Saying this i'd still like to read about it, shame you cant remember the name  rolleyes .


The only similar thing to this american thinker I have heard is cases of people who never enter puperty. There was a documentry about it recently on UK tv where an african guy had reached his 30's without entering puperty. The documentry trailed him as he decided to have it artifically initiated - and it allowed us to see the changes in his behaviour as these hormones took over.
 But even before puperty he had emotions. I'd have to look it up but even learning involves a reward mechanism (i.e. sence of achievement/pleasure caused by meeting a goal - which is emotion driven).
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« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2006, 17:52:48 »

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If you want to evolve - you can first learn to connect to just one person , then you can use this new skill to connect to All.


Sorry,but I'm not much of a group person.


Hehehe I am talking about making a spiritual connection which is easier when You love someone and even easier when You have sex with that someone. wink

I'm sure You know about Yin/Yang, Tantra, chakras, energy flow and all that stuff.

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i don't think one needs to connects to someone to evolve,after all evolution is a matter of personal work,of course I'm talking about spiritual evolution in this situation.


There are many roads to Nirvana - some (IMO Kundalini Yoga+Tantra) will lead You to your final destination much faster.

If You really want to be separate - You will never achieve true Nirvana (oneness,unity,cosmic consciousness).

ps. I love You all because I know that we are One - I'm just not experiencing this oneness yet.  smiley
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« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2006, 18:03:22 »

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Hehehe I am talking about making a spiritual connection which is easier when You love someone and even easier when You have sex with that someone. Wink


There other ways,might be harder,but i like a challenge Grin
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« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2006, 16:49:27 »

MNo..I'm doing it because i find i t archaic.

i told you i had wet dreams when i was younger and didn't know how to control myself.
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« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2006, 18:14:44 »

So you're saying you can release all the sperm produced in your gonads without ejaculating?
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« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2006, 19:05:00 »

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what the hell,first you want me to answer ya question,now you don't reply back -.-


haha, what question was that?

so are you doing this because you think it will make you smarter?


are you telling me you have NEVER had an orgasm?.
not even a wet dream? inconceivable! :snooty:

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« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2006, 19:11:22 »

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Ejaculation leads to stress release, then sleep.


Ah! We covered this in another thread, but I've got to say it again: Ejaculation makes me more energetic and not sleepy. I feel like rafting afterward. Maybe I'm wired like a frakking CYLON!
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