I never remember my dreams...

[kurtykurt42]

so.  reflecting on this notion leads you to the idea that perhaps a change in your habits and routines, your way of thinking can have an impact on your dream recall.  and it may all be for the best.  before i left my last job, i got a "mini-reiki" session with a guy i worked with and he told me that if he could only say one thing to me it would be "get out of your own head rusty!!" (he actually told me that regularly - but even in reiki sessions he could feel the excess energy in my head).  so this shift right now may be exactly what i need as a spiritual practice a la Gurdjieff (he was really into making physical labor and "work" a meditation of sorts), and in turn, all that energy i devoted to mental analysis can now be turned inward to dream recall.

who knows.

anyway, there are other ways which people have mentioned.  i recommend a dream journal, it helps.

Why is it important for you to remember your dreams?

[Swesent]

Why is it important for you to remember your dreams?

A big part of a successful OoBE/Astral Projection/Lucid Dream is to actually remember all, or parts, of what took place. Other reasons may be to get more out of your nights, to learn something from them, maybe gain more/better self-perception. I don't know, the last parts are just guesswork, but without a decent dream recall = no knowledge of whether you've accomplished during the night (as in the aforementioned OoBE/AP/LD).

I assumed yours was a general question, aimed at no one in particular, hence my answer. If you addressed personalreality specifically, then I apologize for butting in.

[kurtykurt42]

In my experience, dreams have nothing to do with out of body travel or remote viewing.

And how can you learn something from dreams when you don't know what dreams are?

[astraladdict]

In my experience, dreams have nothing to do with out of body travel or remote viewing.

And how can you learn something from dreams when you don't know what dreams are?

I agree on behalf of OBE and dreams being two different things, but that's a controversy i don't wish to e apart of. Too much drama with that topic. As for the learning from the dreams, your dreams have a hidden message in them. It's up to you to find them. You can learn a lot as long as you pay attention and give effort

~astraladdict

[kurtykurt42]

As for the learning from the dreams, your dreams have a hidden message in them. It's up to you to find them. You can learn a lot as long as you pay attention and give effort
~astraladdict

If I want to learn something I'll read a book...

[Swesent]

In my experience, dreams have nothing to do with out of body travel or remote viewing...

The only connection I've read about is that the better dream recall you have, the better you can recall your actual Out of Body experiences. Afraid I can't link to any sources though since it was a while back. I don't know whether or not this is true - it's just what I've read. Anyway, I'm not even there yet with my attempts so this is nothing that affects me at the moment.

[personalreality]

Why is it important for you to remember your dreams?

It's not something that I actively work towards anymore (I have in the past). 

However, as I implied in my post, I believe dreams to be a sort of energetic release.  Just like your brain cleans up unused neural pathways and such while you sleep, the dream is a more mental cleanup.  But that doesn't mean remembering the dream is important.

I do think that dream recall techniques will actually help you to remember more from your astral journeys as well.  It's like exercising that part of your mind that does the remembering.

All that said, I also like to remember my dreams because my crystal skulls often speak to me in my dreams.  Well, the one's I remember. 

Psychologically, I also think dreams are a nice cathartic exercise.  If you get to that point of lucidity, you can do a great deal of psychological healing through cathartic confrontation and subsequent emotional release in dreams.

But in the end, I want to remember my dreams because I want too, enough said.

[Rudolph]

The only connection I've read about is that the better dream recall you have, the better you can recall your actual Out of Body experiences. Afraid I can't link to any sources though since it was a while back. I don't know whether or not this is true - it's just what I've read. Anyway, I'm not even there yet with my attempts so this is nothing that affects me at the moment.

Yes, I believe there is a connection and your understanding on this seems good.

I have seen this "I got the journal but still don't remember anything" problem many times. It is not enough to get the journal. You must write in it. For the first few days many dreamers find there is still no recall. So write something along the lines of an affirmation. Maybe write, "My dreams are important to me and I remember my dreams". Write it three times each morning.

You might want to google "Dreams in the Bible" and do a little reading on the subject. Then if your mom gets nervous about it you can reassure her with a few bible stories. Just a couple nonchalant references should do the trick.

The meditation suggestion is good too. This can be tough to arrange for a young person in a busy home but maybe you can just say you are going to take a little nap. 

Good luck.

[Xanth]

It is not enough to get the journal. You must write in it. For the first few days many dreamers find there is still no recall. So write something along the lines of an affirmation. Maybe write, "My dreams are important to me and I remember my dreams". Write it three times each morning.

I like that.
I like that a lot.

Solid suggestion. 

[kurtykurt42]

It's not something that I actively work towards anymore (I have in the past). 

However, as I implied in my post, I believe dreams to be a sort of energetic release. 

I do think that dream recall techniques will actually help you to remember more from your astral journeys as well. 

Unfortunately, there's no proof from what I've experienced and researched to back up either of these claims. There are various methods of achieving out of body states, and the methods where you are less coherent (in a dream like state) seem to be less effective and less reliable. Astral projecting in a dream-like fashion also doesn't allow me to travel in real-time space. Meaning that you end up somewhere random in space and time.

[personalreality]

Unfortunately, there's no proof from what I've experienced and researched to back up either of these claims. There are various methods of achieving out of body states, and the methods where you are less coherent (in a dream like state) seem to be less effective and less reliable. Astral projecting in a dream-like fashion also doesn't allow me to travel in real-time space. Meaning that you end up somewhere random in space and time.

That's all well and good, but for me personally, the experience of a dream can still provide emotional release and psychological healing.

[Rudolph]

"I do think that dream recall techniques will actually help you to remember more from your astral journeys as well.  "

Yes, I also think that for the average beginner, this is true.


(all "proof" aside... given that we are speaking about human psychology here... and "proof" is exceedingly difficult to come by in that particular arena).

[I also think it would be helpful if more folks understood the difference between "proof", "evidence", and "data"]

[Astr4l]

I'm just like you man no lie. When I was a kid I could tell you all my dreams now i sleep wake up and remember nothing . I SWEAR every time my gf sleeps over she remembers her dreams in full detail. I'm getting better at it now. Soon as I wake up I think of my dream and remember much as I can but soon as 4-5 hours go by i forget again . By the way my gf is not spiritual she makes fun of me here and there about stuff lol . I think I mastered a physic ability though. I close my eyes focus on my third eye tell the person to pick a number from 1-10 then tell them to picture it in there head and say the number couple times in there head and 9 outta 10 i get the rite number sometimes i feel/see 2 diffrent numbers i think is cause they change it. Another thing I can do is lay 3 cards down and find the odd card or the card im looking for 8-10 times. But as far as dreams and astral projection styll working on that

[Orion-]

I'm just like you man no lie. When I was a kid I could tell you all my dreams now i sleep wake up and remember nothing . I SWEAR every time my gf sleeps over she remembers her dreams in full detail. I'm getting better at it now. Soon as I wake up I think of my dream and remember much as I can but soon as 4-5 hours go by i forget again . By the way my gf is not spiritual she makes fun of me here and there about stuff lol . I think I mastered a physic ability though. I close my eyes focus on my third eye tell the person to pick a number from 1-10 then tell them to picture it in there head and say the number couple times in there head and 9 outta 10 i get the rite number sometimes i feel/see 2 diffrent numbers i think is cause they change it. Another thing I can do is lay 3 cards down and find the odd card or the card im looking for 8-10 times. But as far as dreams and astral projection styll working on that

Start a dream journal, take 5-10 minutes after waking up to write everything you remember in the dream journal.

[Astr4l]

Ok I remember my dream today . I was at a house party and my girl friends ex boyfriend was there and to be nice I said whats up to him and he was trying to be a tough guy I was about to beat his ass up then I didnt want to start a fight cause I respect the house owner next day we were at a outside pool party I seen him again and went to say hi again this time he was being cool about it and didnt get his ass whooped lol . thats all i can remember now im sure there was more to it.