Lucid/vivid???

[ange.connell]

So last night I was having a dream where I was with someone and somewhere I shouldn't have been and I knew I had to hide to avoid a third person finding me. Anyway, it didn't work and I knew that I'd been seen so whilst in my dream I thought to myself "the only way out of this is if I am dreaming and I could then wake up". As soon as I'd thought this I did wake up. Now, was this a tiny lucid dream or was it just a very vivid dream?

[c0sm0nautt]

These "vivid" dreams seem to have a partial amount of lucidity, but the dreamer is not completely aware it is a dream. In a full blown lucid dream you will have control over the dream itself.

[Xanth]

Actually, "vividness", "control of the dream" and "lucid awareness" are all separate actions in the non-physical.
You can have one, two, or all three of those things...

A vivid dream doesn't necessarily have to have even a hint of lucidity.  They're just you experiencing the dream directly as it's happening... yet you're completely unaware that you're dreaming.  This kind of vivid dream accounts for roughly 90%+ of my dream awareness experiences.  I had one just last night, it was a cop dream where I was cop taking someone into the station.  It was as real as I am sitting here right now typing this.  I remember every sense that happened.  None of it, however, was even remotely lucid... it was a fully and complete dream awareness experience.

Now, if you do manage to gain a lucid awareness... you still might not have any "control" over the experience.  I don't really know or understand what allows you to have control, other than it must be something of a subconscious nature.

Although, ange.connell, to answer your question... it sounds like you had a split second of lucidity just before you woke up, but it's just hard to tell with the description you give.

[c0sm0nautt]

Hey Xanth would you say all non-lucid dreams are vivid or just the ones you are having?

[Xanth]

Hey Xanth would you say all non-lucid dreams are vivid or just the ones you are having?

I think we experience dream awareness experiences in many different ways... one of which are "vivid".  If you're conscious enough to experience the dream as it's happening, then that's even better for you to remember it upon waking.

For, I believe that you have a greater chance of initially remembering the content of a dream upon waking if you were directly experiencing that dream while it was happening.  The problem is that if you don't jot it or ideas from it down immediately, you'll quickly lose it.

[c0sm0nautt]

Aye, they are very fleeting. If I lay still after I wake up I can "retrieve" dreams by honing in on the feeling that still lingers. It reminds me of Robert Bruce's idea of shadow memories - like we have to assimilate the thought-memories into our waking consciousness.

[Xanth]

Well, I believe that you need a certain amount of base conscious awareness to be able to experience the dream as it's happening... I also believe that if this base amount of awareness isn't there and you don't actively experience the dream, I don't think you'll ever remember it.  At least, not consciously.

[ether]

In a full blown lucid dream you will have control over the dream itself.

controll yes, if ya good...but the cause and effect of one's minipulation of such a dream is non effective (for now) in the psychical world...due to some abusing the right and not having all people's best interest at heart

good luck

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