Waking up

[lullabi]

Here's a good lucid dreaming forum:

http://ld4all.com/forum/

You might find something helpful there.

[Nick]

Hi Logic,

I thought that the Dream forum might be a better place for your topic so that is where it now resides. Regarding your query, it does seem that lucidity can be a fragile experience inasmuch as we can awaken so easily. It does seem to occur towards the end of the sleep cycle as well.

There are some tips for maintaining the lucid state in a book called Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge. His website can be found at: http://www.lucidity.com


Very best,

[holy reality]

there isn't really anything you can do about it short of striking some sort of deal with your subconscious (which YES, I have been trying to do while dreaming, as I figure that is my best time to try to talk to it, and I suppose it's possible... wouldn't it be great to have it lte you sleep for a real long time on a boring day, or.... put you into an instant trance?)

you can only lucid dream so much before your body insists on taking you back to reality and ensuring that you cannot fall back asleep... so I mean...

Just try very hard to stay in the dream, grab onto something, spin around, tell the people around you that you are waking up and that you need them to help hold onto you and keep you in the dream...

if you hit the blackness and know that in a few seconds you'll be awake, ask anyone near you to pull you back into the dream, they often times will....

do rope... lie down on the floor and stare at it and start rubbing it... rub your hands together....

do anything  you can to stimulate the DREAM SENSES thus negating your real senses...

and most importantly try to get lucid at night rather than in the morning so you can maintain it for as long as possible... I've probably gone a solid hour lucid before, but usually I only hit lucidity in the morning so I get like 5-20 minute sessions each time, and they always end right before I'm going to score with an incredibly realistic looking and feeling girl... or achieve something I've been wanting to do for a long time.

So...

Practice makes perfect I suppose.... you'll eventually get to where if you wake up you can often times go right back asleep and back into where you left off... but still, even then I find you can only re enter it so much before your body says ENOUGH and starts being uncooperative.

Which is why I want to develop a relationship with my subconscious....



"Why can't we sleep forever...."

[Logic]

Im not talking about lucid dreaming, im talking about keeping asleep in general, ie, Tibetian monk dream meditation, err something.. where you would go into a trance / medative state for say.. a month.

[Logic]

Alot of the problems I've had with lucid dreaming were usually with me becoming lucid right before I wake up. Is it possible to delay or stop the waking up process, or for that matter, remain conciouss and continue on in a dream / trance / obe until you desire to leave or wake up?

thoughts?