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Leo Volont
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« on: October 17, 2004, 12:33:10 »

A Few Kundalini Tips

I was initiated into a Kundalini Yoga program back in 1974 .  The old guy was great about encouraging research and experimentation, and so I was able to find a few things on my own that I can share without giving away their farm.  


I was able to ‘reverse engineer’ a few hints I got from the Chinese Zen Master Huang Po, the first being the “doubt sensation” – this is where when you bring the Kundalini to the Agna Chakra you flex the muscles in the forehead and brow so that the Chi (the Chinese word for Kundalini) feels like a lump.  The ideal here would be to keep it concentrated until it broke up into a Charity.  But keeping your face like that gives a very mean look and so I would not recommend keeping your face frozen like that… but Huang Po would.  

Another thing Hong Po mentioned without giving any particulars was the “One Finger Exercise”. I still don’t know what ‘that’ was but I discovered, after months of trying everything I could think of,  that if you twirl your thumbs, it opens up the Central Kundalini Channel.  What you do is twirl your thumbs until they are sore (it won’t take long) and then stop.  You will notice the Kundalini come rising up the center of your spine.

A guy I knew, Michael Green, taught me a method back in the early seventies.  You pretend you are breathing up through your genitalia, as though you could draw the seminal fluid up your spine and into your abdomen.   Mr. Green told me that he would experience “full body orgasms”.  Not me.  But it would help with the Kundalini.  I found similar exercises described by the Tantrics.

I’ve known about this one trick since I was five.  And so did my twin brother.  A guy on the OBE Page discussed it recently -- a Mr. Rocketman007.   You flex this muscle inside your head, up behind the pallet but over the swivel point in the head.  It must have something to do with the inner ear, because when you flex it just right, it creates an audible ‘roar’.  I can change the ‘roar’ over a few notes, but Mr. Rocketman007 says he can stretch it over octaves.  But once you flex it so you can hear the ‘roar’ you can move around that same flexing, which may be entirely inaudible.  Mr. Rocketman007 says that it helps with OBE, and Energy Meditations.  I am sure it does.

I have always used it to help intensify  this one Kundalini Meditation that isn’t commonly done (unless I have fallen out of the loop in recent times).  In the Swivel Point of the Spine in the Head, up above the back of the pallet is a ‘twirly thing’ about the size of a small pea.  Bring your tongue back and point it up toward that swivel point.  Keep your mouth slightly open.  Now, even after years of practice, it still takes time to fix onto that little thing in power meditation.  It is like peeling an onion. You get closer and closer and narrower and narrower until you finally feel the little twirly thing swinging back and forth or around and around like a pendulum.  It goes at about the same rate as your heartbeat.  I heard an Old Guru tell a friend as an aside (it did not seem for Public Consumption) that it was the Very Top of the Heart Chakra.  Sure enough, once you can isolate that little thing and concentrate on it for about a minute, you can spread that attention out – it is like it links you into some core level – and go both down into the lower charkas, or up along the pallet to the Agna Third Eye Chakra, or up to the Crown Chakra (remember that the Crown Chakra is more toward the back of the head than the very top – it is not a hat!).  Using Mr. Rocketman007 “Flex Roar” sensation, you can augment and intensify this meditation.

This is a very sophisticated Site and you people are very knowledgeable and so I hope I have not wasted all of your time with what would amount to vain repetition of what you all already know.  But perhaps discussing the same old thing in slightly different terms has been refreshing, or knowing that other Traditions have found the same Truths reassuring.  Thank you for letting me share.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2004, 16:33:54 »

Thank you for these tips Leo Volont ! Cheesy There are very interesting !
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2004, 18:31:56 »

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2004, 20:57:53 »

This roar thing with the ears.  Is it when you open up your 'eustation tubes'?  They connect the inner ear to the back of the throat for equilising pressure.

I can open these and can hear the crackle of it.  But I'm not sure if this is the same thing.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2004, 10:40:14 »

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This roar thing with the ears.  Is it when you open up your 'eustation tubes'?  They connect the inner ear to the back of the throat for equilising pressure.

I can open these and can hear the crackle of it.  But I'm not sure if this is the same thing.


That would be a very handy thing to do on Airline Trips, but no.

Mr. Rocketman007 is not sure what is happening.  I suppose it must have something to do with the inner ear, and I can't say that I actually did the Roar Flex while in the air, or, for that matter, during tropical cyclones when equalizing pressure would be a good thing.

But it seems deeper then that.

You see the Flex Roar is a continuous roar which you can flex on and off.  But because you can change the tone of it, I suppose the flex is changing the tension or volume of something.  I think 'volume' because in order for me to make the pitch higher I have to change the position of the Flex.

Isn't there a muscle up behind your pallet that you can flex?

What me and Rocketman007 have in common is that we learned how to do it when very young.  me and my twin brother learned it together.  I can't remember which one of us learned it first, but somehow the other was able to communicate instructions to the other on just what to do.  it might be one of those things where 'Twinglish' comes in handy.

But, anyway, just start trying to flex muscles back in your head up behind the pallet and see if you can trigger the continuous roar.  As I said before, it does not seem like it is in one ear or the other, which I suppose it must be, but it FEELS like it is central -- that you are flexing something in the middle of the cranium, just foward of the Swivel Point.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2004, 15:06:54 »

Hi all,
quote by Leo, "A guy I knew, Michael Green, taught me a method back in the early seventies. You pretend you are breathing up through your genitalia, as though you could draw the seminal fluid up your spine and into your abdomen. Mr. Green told me that he would experience “full body orgasms”. Not me. But it would help with the Kundalini. I found similar exercises described by the Tantrics."

This is the process the Guides helped me with, and it works brilliantly.  Within seconds I feel the heat rising and then direct it to where I want to use it.  

I do use it, for an extra empowerment in healings, shielding when needed and lots of other things that may seem frivolous to others but which worked very effectively for me.. like wind summoning when I am hot, cloud and rain manipulation when I desire rain for the parched earth here, etc.  

Kundalini is a massively mis-understood power and it has incredible effects when raised to the brow chakra under Guidance, which can facilitate the enlightening Oneness experience.

A few years ago in an experiment with Psychics and Aura-Seers, I sat while they watched the aura, then on a signal from them that they were ready I simply short-cutted (is that even a word ?) to remembering the feeling and it came on instantly.  There were a few surprised Seers that's for sure !   They wanted to know what I had done that made Bright Red Light flow out from me so strongly.

And I haven't had the orgasm doing it like this either, although i have used the method when I've been excited sexually and found that the desire quickly dissipates and you are left with the Power feeling of Kundalini.

You mentioned the Roar sound.  I also found this when I experimented with LSD in the 70's.  I figured it was the Sound of Power within.  Interestingly, when you listen to complete silence you will also hear the Roar.  So silence is actually very loud !

The exercise of feeling the little twirley thing in the back of the throat (simplifying the words) is also a method used by Maharishi.  It is also taught at Satsang when you are ready to have the experiences they use in their four meditations.  What I noticed firstly was a beautiful aroma coming from the inside of me, it tasted like flowers !   Apparently this is all we were expected to experience, as it helps to bring on an altered state of awareness where everything seems incredibly vibrant and Clear.  Just as it does after OBE etc.  Although, with Satsang it was used primarily for an escape from the woes of daily life and perhaps to gain clarity about issues etc.  But that was my perception based on what all those who had experienced it before me were saying they used it for.

Thanks for sharing Leo, it's great to see someone who has had real experience with Kundalini sharing some of what they learned.   And what was it about the 70's that helped some of us to find teachers who actually helped us to our own experiences rather than have us as followers ?

I'd love to see more of it in the world again.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2004, 15:54:40 »

If kundalini rises, should we be afraid of it?
I read this and it totally freaked me out. Anyone who has had experience with kundalini, please comment.

Also another quick question: Robert Bruce describes kundalini as an event that lasts 5-30 minutes, while many websites describe it as taking a lifetime to rise. Could someone please clarify?


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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2004, 18:58:33 »

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If kundalini rises, should we be afraid of it?


I’m not trying to scare anyone, but would rather people be prepared and know what they’re getting into before attempting to raise Kundalini.

As far as I’m aware, all the true Yogi master say time after time again that before attempting to raise Kundalini you better be of purity.  Purity of body, emotions, mind, intellect, and the Nadis (astral tubes that carry prana).  This pertains to your entire life at all times 24/7, 365 days per year.  If you get angry even once a week then you’re asking for trouble.

A Yogi master can tell you if you’re of the type that should attempt Kundalini.  Just know that you’re playing with fire, literally.  I know that’s an answer most young people do not want to hear.  Sorry, sad  Of course, most people who try to raise the Kundalini never succeed.

Before attempting to raise the Kundalini via Pranayama (breathing exercises), Mudras & Bandhas (postures), meditations, Mantras, etc. you should first cleans the physical body and the Nadis.  Nadis are astral tubes that carry prana.  

Sri Swami Sivanandaji Maharaj writes,

"The Yogi, who has got a pure heart and a mind free from passions and desires will be benefited by awakening Kundalini."

"It is easy to awaken the Kundalini, but it is very difficult to take it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th] through the different Chakras. It demands a great deal of patience, perseverance, purity and steady practice. The Yogi who has taken it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th], is the real master of all forces. Generally Yogic students stop their Sadhana halfway on account of false Tushti (satisfaction). They imagine that they have reached the goal when they get some mystic experiences and psychic powers. They desire to demonstrate such powers to the public to get Khyati (reputation and fame) and to earn some money. This is a sad mistake. Full realization alone can give the final liberation, perfect peace and Highest Bliss."

"Before awakening the Kundalini, you must have Deha Suddhi (purity of body), Nadi Suddhi (purification of Nadis), Manas-Suddhi (purity of mind) and Buddhi Suddhi (purity of intellect)."

"Little things upset their minds. Those who have not observed the vow of celibacy become the slaves of anger, jealousy, laziness and fear. If you have not got your senses under control, you venture to do foolish acts which even children will not dare to do."
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2004, 19:01:00 »

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Robert Bruce describes kundalini as an event that lasts 5-30 minutes, while many websites describe it as taking a lifetime to rise. Could someone please clarify?


Sri Swami Sivanandaji Maharaj wrote, "It is easy to awaken the Kundalini, but it is very difficult to take it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th] through the different Chakras. It demands a great deal of patience, perseverance, purity and steady practice. The Yogi who has taken it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th], is the real master of all forces. Generally Yogic students stop their Sadhana halfway on account of false Tushti (satisfaction). They imagine that they have reached the goal when they get some mystic experiences and psychic powers. They desire to demonstrate such powers to the public to get Khyati (reputation and fame) and to earn some money. This is a sad mistake. Full realization alone can give the final liberation, perfect peace and Highest Bliss."

Peace & Love,
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2004, 22:13:43 »

Welcome back Paul, it is good to see you posting again.  How are you ?

I have no idea how RB came to make the statement about 5-30 minutes for Kundalini.  My own raising under the Guides took months to prepare for working with them every night, while the event itself was about 3 hours.

While it was only to the Brow Chakra it has been a difficult road to travel by myself, as very few people have experienced it and therefore have no real idea about how it is in this world and culture now.

I would reply to Alexd by saying it is not to be played with, and should really only be worked on with the Guidance of those who KNOW what they are doing, otherwise you can run the risk of mental aberrations, violence and a whole heap of other disturbances.

My old teacher (an English-woman) introduced the concept to me by saying, " Our mental institutions are full with people who have had unexpected and sudden Kundalini Raising."   This put me off trying to experience it for myself, for many years.  LOL

I also agree with the quote Paul used in his last post.  Absolutely agree !

Thanks Paul.

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2004, 02:34:24 »

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Hi all,

You mentioned the Roar sound.  I also found this when I experimented with LSD in the 70's.  I figured it was the Sound of Power within.  Interestingly, when you listen to complete silence you will also hear the Roar.  So silence is actually very loud !

Tay.
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There is really nothing special about that Roar Sound.  You flex some muscles back in the center of your head, above the back of your pallet, and it turns on the Roar, and it lasts as long as you can hold the flex.  It is like opening and closing your fingers.

Maybe it is like rolling your tongue or wiggling your ears... that some people can control that muscle, whatever muscle it is, and some people can't.

Oh, I have an old Kundalini Story.  Years ago I was rounded up and made to serve in one Nation's Army.  They took us out on a long march which tired us all out and then it began to rain -- and it was already winter and so it was a very cold rain.  I was already an old soldier and no kid and so I knew to take immediate action and pulled on a poncho and brought it up over my head and sat down to make it a small tent.  I used my breath to heat it up. So many of the kids were standing in the freezing rain waiting for a sargent to tell them what to do!  Silly Geese!   As I sat there I thought I could perhaps use my Kundalini to make myself even more roastier and toastier... so I brought the Kundalini up on the Right Side of the Spine -- the Hot Channel.  So I was fine, while some of the younger troops were inflicted with exposure injuries and distresses.  They brought out trucks and took us back to Garrison and after everything was set in order I went to sleep.  In the middle of the night I woke up with this hellacious fever and at first determined to ride it out, but then remembered what I had done earlier in the day.  So, for just 2 seconds I thought of closing the Right Channel and opening the Left -- the Cool Side -- and I could feel the heat of the fever simply rise up and away.  I suppose in just 10 seconds I was asleep again.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2004, 02:48:28 »

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If kundalini rises, should we be afraid of it?
I read this and it totally freaked me out. Anyone who has had experience with kundalini, please comment.

Also another quick question: Robert Bruce describes kundalini as an event that lasts 5-30 minutes, while many websites describe it as taking a lifetime to rise. Could someone please clarify?


Thank you
Alex


I think Bruce mentions that for all the scary frightening talk about the dangers of Kundalini, it is extremely rare for anybody to have a dangerously pathological erruption of the Kundalini.  However, if you are one of the few who do, it probably could be serious.

A very good book on Kundalini by Gopi Krishna illustrates the dangers.  He had fever and sleeplessness for years.  Another book I found in India demonstrated that the author was probably driven insane.  It was a funny book... like a diary.  In the last chapters the author admits that he was Gay, and he confesses such a thing because he claims that the Kundalini must have cured him because suddenly he lost his attraction to young men and all at once felt a super lust for the young ladies.  Very amusing, because what he began to do was to pursue the girls the same way that he used to go after the boys.... and somehow he never guessed that it would take an entirely different technique then saying "Yoh! Ya wanna F____" which is apparently all it used to take in the bathhouses with the other gays who aren't famous for their chasity and modesty... they don't call them 'Gay' for nothin.

... But back to Kundalini.  In my particular school the Kundalini is raised by the Guru's Shaktipat -- touch -- in a series of Initiations.  But it is really up to the initiate to meditate and concentrate on the Initiations and practice the meditations or the energy will simply just fade off.  The Gurus don't tell you everything at the beginning so that they can ask you questions as you progress, which you won't know the answers to unless you have actually connected into the Kundalini.  The Gurus freely admit that sometimes it 'takes' and sometimes it doesn't.

The worst side-effect I've seen with the system I work with is that a headache won't go away... but it eventually does.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2004, 03:00:41 »

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"It is easy to awaken the Kundalini, but it is very difficult to take it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th] through the different Chakras. It demands a great deal of patience, perseverance, purity and steady practice. The Yogi who has taken it to Sahasrara Chakra [7th], is the real master of all forces.

Peace & Love,
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I got good news and bad news.

It is not as bad as he says and it is not as good as he says.

In the system of Kundalini I practice the energy does go all the way to the Crown.  The benefit of that is largely that it sort of provides the key for moving the energy anywhere eles.  Before the Crown Initiation you can only feel the Kundalini in the few primary chakras that had been opened up before.  But once the Crown Chakra is open then your entire body is opened too.

But that and a dollar will get me a cup of coffee.  The only difference I notice is that I have a higher opinion of myself, but that is by no means universally shared by everybody who knows me.  I am convinced I have the Faculty of True Discernment, and in my Dreams and Visions various doors have been opened for me.  But I still have to put on my pants one leg at a time.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2004, 06:36:03 »

Oh, some questions in the OBE section inspired me to look in the mirror while turning on and off the Roar Reflex and I noticed that the front of my throat moves slightly upward to turn on the Roar.

So I might be opening or closing some airpipe.

The Roar sounds alot like a Sea Shell held up to the air.  Who knows why or how a sea shell generates noise, but they do.  The Roar sound in the head is a lot louder, but that is probably because it is so much closer to the ear drums or whatever.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2004, 07:34:18 »

These are very useful posts on kundalini here and have helped me a lot in contrast with much of the information online which is incomplete and misleading. Although I've got a few concerns.

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...all the true Yogi master say time after time again that before attempting to raise Kundalini you better be of purity.  Purity of body, emotions, mind, intellect, and the Nadis (astral tubes that carry prana).  This pertains to your entire life at all times 24/7, 365 days per year.  If you get angry even once a week then you’re asking for trouble.


I'm probably not in such control of purity of my mind, body, emotions ect. I would have actually been in much more control in previous years, in fact I would say my real spiritual development has only began very recently. But I am not trying to raise kundalini. The fact that I do yoga, meditation ect. doesn't mean I want to raise kundalini.

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"Little things upset their minds. Those who have not observed the vow of celibacy become the slaves of anger, jealousy, laziness and fear. If you have not got your senses under control, you venture to do foolish acts which even children will not dare to do."


I don't feel spiritually ready for kundalini but it seems to be rising by itself. I am probably impure and am overrun be jealously, laziness, fear ect. but I did not venture to raise the energy, it chose to begin so itself. So how can one observe the vow of celibacy and become free from the abovementioned emotions? What actions must one take to be ready for kundalini? Or a better question is: what should one do if kundalini is rising by itself without the intent of one to raise it by will?


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PS: Sorry if this is moving away too far from the original purpose of this thread
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2004, 09:21:15 »

I would be apprehensive about using the counsels of Perfection to prevent me from living my life.

You must understand what these Old Gurus are intending when they deliver those "You Have To Be Perfect Just Like Me" Speeches.  First they are glorifying themselves, and then they are giving useful advice.  Yes, people do need to show some little bit of impulse control.  Also, in India such speeches can be designed to attack their competitors.  There is oftentimes something of a War in India between the Moralistic Gurus and the Tantric Hedonist Gurus.  I am on the side of the Moralists, but I can see that they sometimes exaggerate their Case.  I've met with many of the Hedonist Kundalini People and, frankly, for all their vices, they are quite congenial... perhaps they are congenial BECAUSE of all their vices... I mean that their often practiced sexuality gives them a high degree of purely social charm.  The Rajneesh People, for instance -- no greater hedonistic moral degenerates in the entire world, but I can't think of nicer people anywhere!... purely socially I mean.   If I found people on the Ashram to be Rajneesh Devotees, I would insist they eat at our table as we would be sure to be smiling when we would not be outright laughing along with their contagious Joy.

So, yes, do try to have control over yourself.  Contain your sexual impulses and your anger.  But don't let concerns for your imperfection to prevent your bettering yourself, AND the Kundalini WILL better you... or at least you will come to think so.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2004, 10:41:46 »

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Another thing Hong Po mentioned without giving any particulars was the “One Finger Exercise”. I still don’t know what ‘that’ was but I discovered, after months of trying everything I could think of, that if you twirl your thumbs, it opens up the Central Kundalini Channel. What you do is twirl your thumbs until they are sore (it won’t take long) and then stop. You will notice the Kundalini come rising up the center of your spine.


You mean twirling my thumb like kids playing Nintendo? Do kids heavily playing videogames have a 'kundalini-benefit' from doing it? They twirl their thumbs virtually all the time they're playing...
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2004, 12:12:58 »

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Another thing Hong Po mentioned without giving any particulars was the “One Finger Exercise”. I still don’t know what ‘that’ was but I discovered, after months of trying everything I could think of, that if you twirl your thumbs, it opens up the Central Kundalini Channel. What you do is twirl your thumbs until they are sore (it won’t take long) and then stop. You will notice the Kundalini come rising up the center of your spine.


You mean twirling my thumb like kids playing Nintendo? Do kids heavily playing videogames have a 'kundalini-benefit' from doing it? They twirl their thumbs virtually all the time they're playing...


Maybe.

I've noticed that after intense and prolonged manual activity -- work with the hands, fingers and thumbs -- that if I simply walk away and sit down still and relax, the Kundalini shoots up.

Now, systematically twirling the thumbs for a few minutes is a shortcut to the same effect.

So... take your pick, play Nintendo like a demon for a half an hour to prepare yourself for a ten minute meditation, or twirl your thumbs for just two or three minutes.

Also, I wonder whether the same exercise would be of much use to people who don't have an open Crown Chakra.  Before my Crown Chakra was opened I would not have been aware of these other movements of power.  But I've read Bruce's Book and it seems like people here are aware of their Energy Flows.  Let me know if Twirling Thumbs works for you.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2004, 13:51:40 »

i don't understand why is everyone talking about celibacy required to kundalini, it is connected to sexual energy after all
i see a problem when someone begins to fantasize and creates thoughtforms, but when you concentrate on the energy flow it's relatively safe and sound
i have just  recently started to develop kundalini and all i have to do is to concentrate on base chakra and immediately i have heat/energy surge
grounding and directing the energy out of the crown  seems to do the trick, but no oneness here, although i do it one step at a time and get the body accustomed to it, still experimenting ... and won't use full force
interesting thing is that kundalini can be used to remove blockages leftovers, if you can control the flow, that is

as i understand if you direct kundalini through main channel and others, heat and cool channel should balance out, resulting in stronger flow but no overheating ?
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2004, 14:36:14 »

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as i understand if you direct kundalini through main channel and others, heat and cool channel should balance out, resulting in stronger flow but no overheating ?


Yes, the center channel should be neutral.  But you can remember Left-Cool,  Right-Hot.  I've found that all you need to do is just concentrate down on either side of the tailbone.  

Don't accidentally leave the Right Channel open, but if you do you can turn it off in a giffy.  The trouble comes from casually opening the Right Channel and then later when the fever symptoms run you down, you forget what you did, so that it doesn't occur to you to Undo it.


I agree with you about sexuality.  The Gurus always ask you to be celibate.  Ordinarily I couldn't get laid if I had a thousand dollar bill taped to my forehead, but looking back in my life, whenever I was in the midst of these Kundalini Initiations, wouldn't you know, THEN I'd finally get lucky just when I should have been holding off.  But it never seemed to hurt anything.  For other people in the Classes the Initiations wouldn't always 'take' but I would get through, even if I was still meditating uncomfortably on the 'wet spot'.
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Tayesin
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2004, 09:10:54 »

I've been wondering why no one has spoken about the opening to higher awareness that comes with Kundalini Raising, with the exception of myself and Daem0n.

Then as I read the posts from these past two days it dawned on me.  Daemon saying he had not yet experienced Oneness from his experiments with Kundalini, set it clearly for me.  

The missing link is Focused Awareness.  You are mechanically raising the power and moving it around, Yes ?   This is being done following the prescribed methods of the old Guru's, Yes ?  And this movement is usually outside of the central spinal column ?

So, the difference I see from my experience of Kundalini is my Awareness was focused in the Base Chakra to begin the process, and it rose along with the Base Chakra energy through each chakra until it rested at the Brow Chakra, at which point I was opened up from the inside out... like you are being dissipated throughout the Universe until you are filling it and it is filling you......  Oneness.  The opening occured when the Red Light of Kundalini merged with the pure White Light.

So one simple difference like this can account for the stories of people being mentally burned out by Kundalini, as they maybe are Aware with it as it happens.

I enjoyed Leo's experience of being able to keep himself warm by using the energy.  This is something I do in Winter too, and often share the energy with others in order to warm them as well.  It works !  All I do is feel the power in the Base and simply push it out with focused awareness to go where I want it to go.

Remember... You are in control of your energy and you can do whatever you choose to do with it.

Also, never is a Chakra completely closed, unless someone has been manipulating your energy.. and some teachers do, so stay clear of them and such control manipulations.

Thanks for sharing guys.  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2004, 09:39:59 »

Quote from: Tayesin
The missing link is Focused Awareness.  You are mechanically raising the power and moving it around, Yes ?   This is being done following the prescribed methods of the old Guru's, Yes ?  And this movement is usually outside of the central spinal column ?

So, the difference I see from my experience of Kundalini is my Awareness was focused in the Base Chakra to begin the process, and it rose along with the Base Chakra energy through each chakra until it rested at the Brow Chakra, at which point I was opened up from the inside out...


You know, that may well be a very important distinction... to be 'in' the energy from the base chakra, instead of manipulating the energy from the outside.  I'll have to try it.

I have been consoling myself that the Energy must have at least been building and nourishing a Higher Potential.. but you can only get so old until you die and all that neat potential goes for nothing.

I'll have to try it.  I'll let you know how it goes.  Wish me luck!
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Tayesin
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2004, 10:20:03 »

Hi Leo,
excellent stuff...  And I do hope for the most effective outcome of your experiment.  I feel you will do every well with it, given the solid foundation you already have.

 Cheesy
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andonitxo
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2004, 15:06:31 »

Hi all,
the question, I think, would have to be: why do we need to wake up kundalini?, or in other words, why do we have to oblige our kundalini's awakening?. huh
I mean, it is a awesome power inside of us which will enlighten us if we are really ready to receive it, but what if we are not?.
Consulting some books I've found interesting information about improper awakenings. It appears that if kundalini is not able to raise along the spine due to any physical / emotional / mental garbage, the blockage makes it go downward flaming, this way, the muladhara chakra. In this scenery all passions will be inflamed to an uncontrollable point transforming the subject in an aberrant person dominated by his lowest principles.  evil
Following another knowledge line I've read that the mere equilibrium between all our three bodies (physical, astral and mental) automatically grants a safe awakening. cheesy
To attain it a proper vegetarian diet, good living habits (exercise, sleeping,...), a control of emotions and of mental activity is suggested, and principally a regular meditation schedule. smiley
Greetings.
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andonitxo
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2004, 15:10:29 »

Hi all,

the question, I think, would have to be: why do we need to wake up kundalini?, or in other words, why do we have to oblige our kundalini's awakening?. huh

I mean, it is a awesome power inside of us which will enlighten us if we are really ready to receive it, but what if we are not?.  Sad
Consulting some books I've found interesting information about improper awakenings. It appears that if kundalini is not able to raise along the spine due to any physical / emotional / mental garbage, the blockage makes it go downward flaming, this way, the muladhara chakra. In this scenery all passions will be inflamed to an uncontrollable point transforming the subject in an aberrant person dominated by his lowest principles.  evil

Following another knowledge line I've read that the mere equilibrium between all our three bodies (physical, astral and mental) automatically grants a safe awakening. Smiley

To attain it a propper vegetarian diet, good living habits (exercise, sleeping,...), a control of emotions and of mental activity is suggested, and principally a regular meditation schedule. smiley

Greetings.
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