Dealing with the opposition

[Tiny]

Hey, you two. I think this site has a private message function  .

I like what Zarreste said about channeling the love energy and I disagree with Tayesin, I think we should not send the love energy towards dark beings (like a waste of energy that will never be returned), I know this can be tempting tho because in that divine love-state one might feel pity for these pathetic beings, nonetheless i think holding it in one's heart is enough to make them feel gloomy and run.

All the recent nights I've set my intention to lucid dream what is strange is that I always remember non-sensical or reflective dreams, yet my most important dreams seem to be memory wiped everytime.

I barely remember a dream last night that was totally messed up, chaotic and fast, possibly a battle.
My thesis is that once I get lucid (meaning taking control over the dreamstate), I pick fights with dark beings a lot of the time and because of this I would not remember much if anything at all. Does that make any sense?
Rarely I observe stigmatic scratches I can't remember where I could've gotten them from physically, and other times I have a lot of imprints on my arms which look like they came from bedsheet and they go away after an hour of wakefulness.
I have a LOT of what look like scars on my back and my knees (looks like masochism  ) my doctor says it's from rapid growth, indeed I did grow rapidly but I'd rather want to believe they're battle marks  

Pic of the phenomenon:

[spark]

Hi.  I don't necessarily buy in on the ET theory, but I have had assorted "perceptions" of such type events.  In general, I try not to read too much into what one perceives verses what is really occurring.  Anyway, as an FYI, I have over 20 years of OBEing, have performed successful remote viewing, can feel all the chakras, can see auras, can feel objects from distances (like people, trees, etc.), etc.  But, I still feel that folks tend to assume too much sometimes.  Anyway, I tend to think that some of these things you mention can be addressed by engaging in feelings of love and harmony with the world around oneself.  I think that perhaps love is sort of like being in harmonic oscillation with all things, and I have a feeling that when you are in that state, it is hard to be harmed.  Also, I tend to think that much depends on ones attention or focus.  I tend to think that you perhaps are sort of are where you are focusing.  So, if you essentially focus away, you may actually be diverting such things.  I also have a feeling that diet and exercise are critical to strength and vitality -- and so called energy strength too.  So, I expect that such would be helpful.  Anyway, I had years of issues in OBEs with so called dark entities that I perceived, and all the battling seemed to not be helpful.  Only love and focus elsewhere.  Anyway, I dont profess to know though ... perhaps, my brain is being slowly eroded by alien pests ... But, I still tend to think that focusing on love and faith are the core things to success.  We cannot really know what is happening.  There is just too much.  And, we are too small.  All we can do is dig and dig, but all the while having faith and love.  Of course, not blind faith or to smile while stepping in front of cars or axe wielding psycho aliens, etc.  By the way, I have had perhaps 5 OBEs where I see a sort of device that seems to be positioned over my abdomen (stomach chakra region) ... Kind of freaky!  Whether aliens, who knows!  The last time I saw it, I also saw little black monkey looking folks in kind of star-trek like clothes!  And, I must admit that I fought a bit before I decided to focus on love and run off.  

[Tayesin]

One thing that my higher self soon taught me was that especially the lower dark forces require our stimulus in order to attack us. It's like having a bad thought in my head and I'd be trying to supress it and this makes it only stronger, so instead just let it go and focus on something progressive. I think that this is almost most worth mentioning above all.

A bad thought may not be yours. Even so, not giving it energy is the more effective way to deal with it... meaning as you say Tiny,  to focus on something else. Certainly stops 'your' energy going on the thought to provide the Spike found tasty by some lower astrals. So, a 'dark force' won't need your stimulus for it to attack, instead many simply inject a 'bad' thought so you have a reaction to it and supply the energy spike they seek. Your re-focusing is a perfect move in such case.

I was wondering if people had some tips on how to deal especially with them. It's harder since they in their ways are cowardly and don't show themselves.
For now the only thing I can think of is creating a spontaneous reflective shield that basically sends back all the attacks to it's sender.

Try the Mirror method on my website Tiny, it's just as you think. It works well. But even so it has what I see as drawbacks in the bigger picture.

I think we should not send the love energy towards dark beings (like a waste of energy that will never be returned), I know this can be tempting tho because in that divine love-state one might feel pity for these pathetic beings, nonetheless i think holding it in one's heart is enough to make them feel gloomy and run.

Tiny, when you Love Unconditionally you do not seek to have it Returned. No point even trying to Love if we seek it to be reflected for us.

Isn't it enough to know you have helped heal another soul or its aspects? It is for me at least, that's why I do it with Love.

They are souls like you, not "pathetic beings". Who are we to pass judgment on them?

Because another soul chooses to have a different experience to the one you have chosen, doesn't make it anything LESS than you are. Remember that my friend, it will come in handy over time.

my doctor says it's from rapid growth, indeed I did grow rapidly but I'd rather want to believe they're battle marks  

Yes, looks exactly like the growth marks/stretch marks I had, my daughter and her rmom have, and many other people.

Tiny, fear is not the way to go. Now I know you don't see your actions and choices as being anything to do with fear. But, why else would a person want to attack anything if not because of their fear?

[Xanth]

Pic of the phenomenon:

Those are called 'stretch marks'... indeed from rapid growth, or perhaps weight lifting at too young an age?
I've got them.  Lots of people have them.

[kurtykurt42]

They occur from weigh lifting at any age. As your muscles grow and expand they create 'stretch marks'.

[Tiny]

Isn't it enough to know you have helped heal another soul or its aspects?

Yes, unconditional love is graceful.
But unconditional love is a cycle and from my tiny understanding I know that sending love to beings of darkness (who are not lost but forever lost) ends that cycle and it is a complete waste of energy.
Divine love energy is a part of the original creator and the divine comunion, and stemming way back to the Source and it is meant to be reflected not swallowed. By feeding it to the cancer of creation one willingly destroys a part of god.

I will say it again, sending dark beings divine-love energy is a mistake. They are not beings like you and me.

So, a 'dark force' won't need your stimulus for it to attack, instead many simply inject a 'bad' thought so you have a reaction to it

This is becoming pure wordplay, you know...

'Not reacting (to their assault-intended impulse)' is equal to my meaning of 'giving it no stimulus'. I'm sure we're talking about the same thing afterall.

Tiny, fear is not the way to go. Now I know you don't see your actions and choices as being anything to do with fear. But, why else would a person want to attack anything if not because of their fear?

The other reason is because of pure passion even if it appears illogical or irrational. Light warriors contain in themselves a deep devotion to destroy that which is wrong (darkness).
However this is rarely the case because Light beings are attacked always if they're not under some extreme form of protection or show the least signs of vulnerability.

They occur from weigh lifting at any age. As your muscles grow and expand they create 'stretch marks'.

More like schoolbag carrying for 10-30 mins to school and from school.
I was not and am still not sports active.

I am still skeptical tho especially since mainstream science provides materialistic answers to everything, even if they're plain lies or arrogantly assumed/theorized answers taken for fact and whatnot.

[Tayesin]

Tiny,

Firstly, I would not like to see this become an argument of I say/you say. Instead I would hope to plant a seed within you that you will water with your experiences and come to know for yourself the reality I speak of.

I know that sending love to beings of darkness (who are not lost but forever lost) ends that cycle and it is a complete waste of energy.

Since this is completely opposed to anything I've learned and experienced in my 35+ years exploring the astral realms, the soul awareness levels and oversoul experience, I would ask how is it you KNOW such an Untruth then?

Have you tried this method? I have, many, many, times and it works beautifully. It begins their healing, no matter what you think of "them" We can do it with other people, any other being and animals too, all have the same reaction to recognise it and heal with the connection.

it is meant to be reflected not swallowed. By feeding it to the cancer of creation one willingly destroys a part of god.

How is it swallowed? Doing as I do destroys nothing, it HEALS it. Healing assists all of it to re-merge with the source.

The Reflection is not required, only our unbalanced Ego requires it to be, the Source doesn't need it to be reflected and so neither do we.

The first issue I can see Tiny is the perception of these things, other beings, those choosing darkness as being Wrong, Bad, Less than You, Worthy of nothing, etc. And here is where your perception needs to be opened up further, because you are still operating in the belief mode of Us and Them, Good and Bad. Therefore your experiences cannot grow beyond this Limitation you placed in front of you by having the Belief of it.

The Source does not place these Labels and Judgements upon any of it's parts, so why should we? The Source sees all its parts as perfect, perfectly Being a part of the Source. Darkness and those who seek it out are not rejected but loved and accepted for the experience the Source gains of itself through its parts.

Basically, we are thinking too small minded for the reality that exists. Hence why now is time to awaken and see clearly what is and what is not.

The other reason is because of pure passion even if it appears illogical or irrational. Light warriors contain in themselves a deep devotion to destroy that which is wrong (darkness).
However this is rarely the case because Light beings are attacked always if they're not under some extreme form of protection or show the least signs of vulnerability.

Pure passion, comes from? It would be a Belief as the instigator of such a passion would it not? So given that ALL belief is non-reality, it would therefore have no place in the bigger picture.. which would lay outside the limited astral realms to start with.

Being a Light Warrior has a lot more to it than attempting to Destroy anything. We know nothing can be destroyed, so there is the first limitation. All things are energy, energy cannot be destroyed as it is always changing to a different state, much like how when an electron raises in vibration it jumps into a higher level and disappears, yet it is still there in reality.

My point is this Tiny. At the moment there are Disinformation artists aplenty on the Internet, in the New-Age Industry, in every conceivable Belief-System and Philosophy, as it should be for now, and like me many other people are working at limiting the impact on those genuinely seeking growth, experience and Awakening. We do this by sharing our life's experiences, sharing what we know from our Awakening to our own higher-self, and so we must therefore speak of what is real in order for others to see and not go down a path that will create prolems for them, or place them at variance to the higher reality above those very Limited Astral Layers.

Basically, we are here to assist in the awakening, not the continuance of old and out of date falsehoods.

The seeds are planted Tiny, now you must see what grows if you tend to it. Create, Heal, Love, do not seek to Destroy.

Be well brother.

Love, Always.

[Tiny]

Tiny,

Firstly, I would not like to see this become an argument of I say/you say. Instead I would hope to plant a seed within you that you will water with your experiences and come to know for yourself the reality I speak of.

Since this is completely opposed to anything I've learned and experienced in my 35+ years exploring the astral realms, the soul awareness levels and oversoul experience, I would ask how is it you KNOW such an Untruth then?

Have you tried this method? I have, many, many, times and it works beautifully. It begins their healing, no matter what you think of "them" We can do it with other people, any other being and animals too, all have the same reaction to recognise it and heal with the connection.

How is it swallowed? Doing as I do destroys nothing, it HEALS it. Healing assists all of it to re-merge with the source.

The Reflection is not required, only our unbalanced Ego requires it to be, the Source doesn't need it to be reflected and so neither do we.

The first issue I can see Tiny is the perception of these things, other beings, those choosing darkness as being Wrong, Bad, Less than You, Worthy of nothing, etc. And here is where your perception needs to be opened up further, because you are still operating in the belief mode of Us and Them, Good and Bad. Therefore your experiences cannot grow beyond this Limitation you placed in front of you by having the Belief of it.

The Source does not place these Labels and Judgements upon any of it's parts, so why should we? The Source sees all its parts as perfect, perfectly Being a part of the Source. Darkness and those who seek it out are not rejected but loved and accepted for the experience the Source gains of itself through its parts.

Basically, we are thinking too small minded for the reality that exists. Hence why now is time to awaken and see clearly what is and what is not.

Pure passion, comes from? It would be a Belief as the instigator of such a passion would it not? So given that ALL belief is non-reality, it would therefore have no place in the bigger picture.. which would lay outside the limited astral realms to start with.

Being a Light Warrior has a lot more to it than attempting to Destroy anything. We know nothing can be destroyed, so there is the first limitation. All things are energy, energy cannot be destroyed as it is always changing to a different state, much like how when an electron raises in vibration it jumps into a higher level and disappears, yet it is still there in reality.

My point is this Tiny. At the moment there are Disinformation artists aplenty on the Internet, in the New-Age Industry, in every conceivable Belief-System and Philosophy, as it should be for now, and like me many other people are working at limiting the impact on those genuinely seeking growth, experience and Awakening. We do this by sharing our life's experiences, sharing what we know from our Awakening to our own higher-self, and so we must therefore speak of what is real in order for others to see and not go down a path that will create prolems for them, or place them at variance to the higher reality above those very Limited Astral Layers.

Basically, we are here to assist in the awakening, not the continuance of old and out of date falsehoods.

The seeds are planted Tiny, now you must see what grows if you tend to it. Create, Heal, Love, do not seek to Destroy.

Be well brother.

Love, Always.

My point is this Tiny. At the moment there are Disinformation artists aplenty on the Internet, in the New-Age Industry, in every conceivable Belief-System and Philosophy, as it should be for now, and like me many other people are working at limiting the impact on those genuinely seeking growth, experience and Awakening.

Oh sorry did I make you feel topsy-turvy? 

Firstly, I would not like to see this become an argument of I say/you say.

Ye know what? We're not gonna. In my 5 years of experience in internet arguing you bet I've learned something off of that 

It's always been the same.

Some things clash.

I would hope to plant a seed within you that you will water with your experiences and come to know for yourself the reality I speak of.

I fear in this case my soil is highly acidic.

Since this is completely opposed to anything I've learned and experienced in my 35+ years exploring the astral realms, the soul awareness levels and oversoul experience...

...My point is this Tiny. At the moment there are Disinformation artists aplenty on the Internet, in the New-Age Industry, in every conceivable Belief-System and Philosophy, as it should be for now, and like me many other people are working at limiting the impact on those genuinely seeking growth, experience and Awakening. We do this by sharing our life's experiences, sharing what we know from our Awakening to our own higher-self, and so we must therefore speak of what is real in order for others to see and not go down a path that will create prolems for them, or place them at variance to the higher reality above those very Limited Astral Layers.

Basically, we are here to assist in the awakening, not the continuance of old and out of date falsehoods.
...

  you bet! And there's a reason for evereything.


You know it's funny. Tis' such a crazy world with crazy contradictions everywhere and everyone is fighting just to be able to superimpose their own over one another.
Yet noone asks themselves, is the game really worth playing?

Let me tell you something. I don't play this game and I don't take my role.
I am not interested in the deceptive trash that is being taught and preached in the astral world.
In fact very soon, many inmates alike are going to follow. They won't play the game either. The chains will shatter and the prison bars will bent.
Eventually the entire board will flip over and snap.

[kurtykurt42]

You know it's funny. Tis' such a crazy world with crazy contradictions everywhere and everyone is fighting just to be able to superimpose their own over one another.
Yet noone asks themselves, is the game really worth playing?

Let me tell you something. I don't play this game and I don't take my role.
I am not interested in the deceptive trash that is being taught and preached in the astral world.
In fact very soon, many inmates alike are going to follow. They won't play the game either. The chains will shatter and the prison bars will bent.
Eventually the entire board will flip over and snap.

What do you mean by game?

[zareste]

"Light warriors contain in themselves a deep devotion to destroy that which is wrong (darkness)."

I notice how, instead saying what you stand for, you just call it 'right'. You're ashamed of your agenda and perhaps you should ask yourself why

[Tayesin]

Hi Tiny

You said, "I fear in this case my soil is highly acidic." Even then brother something will grow, and it will be up to you what you do with it when the time comes.

Yes, some do seek to superimpose their beliefs over others, and that must be perfect for now also. Yet, what I am attempting to do with you Tiny is to open you up a little more, nothing more and nothing less.

You have some great aspects within yourself, strong drive, equally strong caring ability and a good degree of clarity in your journeys in the Astral. Forgive an old man for hoping to assist you further.

The pattern of internet arguing is preventing real communication flow happening, so I will withdraw.

Seeds are planted, it's not up to me to water them.

Be in Peace brother, and be well with yourself.

[Tiny]

Hi Tiny

You said, "I fear in this case my soil is highly acidic." Even then brother something will grow, and it will be up to you what you do with it when the time comes.

Yes, some do seek to superimpose their beliefs over others, and that must be perfect for now also. Yet, what I am attempting to do with you Tiny is to open you up a little more, nothing more and nothing less.

You have some great aspects within yourself, strong drive, equally strong caring ability and a good degree of clarity in your journeys in the Astral. Forgive an old man for hoping to assist you further.

The pattern of internet arguing is preventing real communication flow happening, so I will withdraw.

Seeds are planted, it's not up to me to water them.

Be in Peace brother, and be well with yourself.

Ok then let me put it a little clearer.

You're trying to plant a seed I know is deception, not with me bro.

I don't care how much you've heard or been taught in the astral world.
I have come to know evil very well, very personally and I know how it operates and rarely does it show it's true face. It pretends to be Light so it can continue with it's parasitic activities. (And to your info - it governs the physical and astral systems and controls the major streams of information, just to put this into perspective.)

My love goes to my creator and his children ONLY, not the cancerous stem of darkness whose little prison game is about to end -Game over-


I have said enough about this. I will no longer contribute to the derailing of this thread.

I do not have to justify myself before you.

[kurtykurt42]

Yea.. There are a lot of evil people out there. I have read the book, 'Never Be Lied to Again' by David Liberman probably about 10 times. Now everytime I see someone on TV or go somewhere it seems I can always find someone lying about something. I guess the sickest of all are the governments who keep so many secrets to hold people back. I hope this game ends soon too.

[Tayesin]

Wow, never been spoken to with so much hatred in my 6 years here at AP.

People, please understand, no matter what many think of what's best for dealing with negs, you will all find that Love really is the one and only weapon you will need.

All the reasons why are in my posts here. It works. It works beautifully.

It is we humans who think things must be only Evil and Good. We do this because it is what we were all taught as Truth. And as we grow up we find a lot of those things we were taught are not real truths at all, as is the case with the Duality of Evil and Good.

Treat everything with Love, unconditional love, and you will be fine.

[kurtykurt42]

Maybe some of these people have there heart charkras clogged up.