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« on: April 06, 2002, 15:51:11 »

I have noticed this since first grade. I'm 31 now. I remember playing outside with the class, playing some game, and I was kind of daydreaming, staring out into the sky. It's like a kind of pulsing thing, I guess, it's like when you don't focus on anything, just gaze out at nothing in the sky. Mine don't move slowly, kind of a fast, pulsing, throbbing kind of thing.
I told my mother about this, not knowing anything, just being a kid, she took me to the doctor and they ran tests on my eyes, everything fine. I think maybe everyone is like this, but no one really notices, they never really thought of it, I guess. I don't know. I need to read up more of Robert's site, maybe it has something to do with reading auras. Either way, I know exactly what you're talking about and it is kind of nice to see someone else has noticed it.

 
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2002, 17:22:21 »

Ive noticed the same thing... I talked about them on another forum.... Scientists say it has something due to the eyes' reaction to too much sunlight... But I bet its more than that....

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2002, 20:32:42 »

Hi,

I suspect that what you are seeing are orbs.
Take a look at the photo gallery of this web page and tell me if I am right.

http://www.orbsbybeans.com/
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2002, 05:22:36 »

Another good sight for pics of what you are possibly seeing would be WWW.ARTBELL.COM go to the pics galeries and select orbs.  I have friends that have many of them in thier pictures.  They seem to follow his family around a lot.




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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2002, 05:24:01 »

Orbs?Huh?

I looked at the site and it didnīt impress me..
Those pictures are just fakes- and not even good ones.

 
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2002, 05:37:29 »

Hi, edguidry, Iīm not sure if it is the "same thing" we see, but it could very well be, not so easy to describe them, I just looked outside, and even though itīs minimal light outside right now I can see them very well, even when I am focusing on them.
  They look sort of like the small bubbles that can fly from washing-up liquid bottles, really small ones, and even if they mostly are very small I tend to see they have like a darker point in the middle.
 
DJMidget, I have many times thought it may be something like that, but the thing is I see them even when not exposed to any strong lightsource, although they become easier to observe as I said in daylight...

Vallk, I see you are new here, welcome to the forums!!
 take a look at this pic here; http://www.orbsbybeans.com/viewer10.html
 They look very much like these, and see the bright one to the left of the car, in the same height as the cars front lights, it has a black point in the middle of it. Perhaps the dark point I see in the middle of the bubbles (as I call them) isnīt as black as that one, but I think you get the point. The bubbles I see are otherwise looking more like the not-so-light small orbs in that pic, actually I would say that is the way they would look when highly magnified.
  Thx for the pics Vallk, and again, welcome!

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2002, 05:53:13 »

Iīm not aware of what orbs should look like or what they are/do, so I canīt say if these are "the real deal", although it looks like something is wrong with the camera or something.
 All I can say is that some of the bubbles on the pics looks very much alike the bubbles I perceive, although highly magnified... of course itīs difficult to know exactly how they would like if extremly enlarged..
  ..what you doing up this early by the way Felix? Wink

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2002, 07:33:50 »

Qui-Gon

I know what you mean as far as it looking like something is wrong with the camera.  But I have seen several pictures were there were no orbs in one shot and orbs in the very next shot taken only seconds later.  Then again on the same role of film they were gone.  One of the other things that I have notioced is often the depth in the pictures.  It is hard to fake distance with a regular 35mm and having the pics developed at Walmart.



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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2002, 09:01:21 »

A certain phenomenon has caused me much curiosity for awhile now, simply because NOONE can tell me exactly what it is. I don't believe it's the orbs, I think those are something else. What I see 'practically all the time is everywhere, not sphere-shaped, iridescent, shimmery, and becomes more pronounced when I draw energy. It also shows up when I close my eyes, so I think it's energy related.

I've tried to describe it and it only serves to confuse people more, so I'll give some key words and see if anyone can relate:

sparkle, wavy, slight distortion, iridescence, static, faintly colorful

It sometimes has a tencency to flicker too. Does ANYONE know what this is?! I think it's something I'm percieving internally, not something external, because it's there when I close my eyes.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2002, 09:45:31 »

Cainam, yes Iīve seen alot of "orb pics" on the artbell website, they have LOTS of them there, and some looks really should I say authentic.

  There were many orb pics taken at ground zero just after the 11th of september tragedy showing orbs, perhaps these could be just "energy balls", I mean there were alot of energy set to motion from those towers collapsing and the enormous heat...  OR, they had with something else to do, some would say spirits from the mortally wounded..  I just donīt know...  
Obviously there are alot of people out there hoaxing and faking all sorts of things, including orb pics, thrilling themselves if they can manage to trick some people into believing their hoaxes is real authentic pictures of something unknown, BUT I donīt think all pics can be explained that way or that there may be some mistake taking or developing the pics, I believe some are real indeed...  question is - what are their nature..  is there more to them than just geo-magnetic energy - or whatever the correct term is??

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2002, 18:04:52 »

Bismart

Okay lets try a process of elimination.

So your not seeing orbs.

When was the last time you had your eyes checked.  I know when some one sees sparks it is often the result of nerve sparks resulting from an array of diffent things.  The fact that you see them with your eyes closed could point out a problem.

Qui-Gon

Same for you.  Elimination time.  Just out of curiousity first do you see them with your eyes shut as well?
If not. We can rule out orbs per your last post. Spirits?  I lean towards not.  I would shutter to think they so many could collect in several spots without mass casualties.

What else can we shoot down?



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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2002, 20:01:01 »

Hey David, nope, I canīt see them when closing my eyes, not a trace of them as a matter of fact...

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2002, 08:05:11 »

Qui-Gon.

Okay no eye problems for you.  Lets see what else.
Naturally forming energy.  2 Things only probelm one points yes and the other no.

yes.  Liek snow flakes.  Not a sinle one the same.  Naturally forming and so on.

but no.  I think of energy more like water.  When uneffected by an outside source it forms a perfect sphere.

So are they perfect spheres or are they more random.



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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2002, 08:30:22 »

Iīm broke when it comes to this subject to Wink

   Yea they take on perfect small spheres, everyone seems to be as big as the other, BUT, sometimes when I fix my eyes on some of them they tend to move rather slow, and they sometimes are a bit larger taking different forms than the smaller bubbles.
Often small elliptical "strings".
  But most often I see only the small bubbles (never the strings or any other pattern if I donīt "focus"), and the thingie is they are there all the time..   well, guess Iīll never know for sure will I??

   Iīll guess we both stay as broke as we currently are ey?
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2002, 11:25:33 »

Okay Qui-Gon.  They are naturally forming Energy just off the Physical plain.

Here is my reasoning.
Perfectly spherical would point towards naturally forming. And since using the basis that the "orbs" that have been photographed are based or at least attached to the physical plain because they are caught of film.  Which would require some basis in the physical. AND THESE ARE NOT ORBS as you stated after viewing the photos, they are then not based on the physical plain. Also pointing towards this would be that they are not affected by the Earths energy, gavity, ect.  If they were they would not be perfectly round, would they.  Makes sense to me.
The only thing that might through this off would be the possibility of intelligence.  Are they itelligent?  Do they move in patterns or seem to react to other objects?




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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2002, 16:01:34 »

No, they do not seem to be inteliigent at all..  and they do not seem to react to other objects, the only thing they seem to react on is me focusing on them (changing focus on my eyes), which leads me to think there may be some "eye problem" after all.
  My instincts as well as logic reason tell me, either itīs some odd things going on in my eyes (it makes sence from one way of looking on it, but not on another), or there is some basic (life-)energy my eyes are "in sync" with somehow...  would be neat to know for sure to say the least..

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2002, 18:42:17 »

Ok, here's what it's MOST LIKELY you're seeing, based on all you've said.

Sometimes an illness, or trauma of some kind, or even some random cellular event, can cause blood to leak into the interior of the eye--or, cells from the inside to slough off and float around.

Dead cells, floating around inside your eye, are not going to be easy for an optician to detect, but YOU will certainly see them--as dots in your field of vision, of course, much larger because they are so very close.  This is not TOO uncommon, I'm surprised no one else has suggested it before.
Does this fit what you're seeing?


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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2002, 22:58:01 »

your probably starting to see into the ethereal realm
and starting to see energy or maybe your seeing your etheric body.
this has happened to me too I mostly see this energy at night.
ive been meditating to try to open my 3rd eye to see it.
Im trying to open it further so I can see into the astral.
however instead of opening to the etheric you can start seeing dream images called hypnogogic images that would be black and white shapes
I think of it as opening your self outward or inward

 
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2002, 10:33:58 »

Qui-Gon jinn,you described a thing I have seen from child hood also,
my sister & girlfriend as well.The thing I/we describe is like tiny
bubbles/molecules/sparks or little stars winking in & out of existence.You can not see them normally but when you stare at a
blue patch of sky (not into the sun) or focus your eyes like in
one of those 3-D pictures where you stare for a while & a 2-d
picture starts to look 3-d (not talking about 3-d movies).

They dont seem to effect anything but swarm around like microscopic
fireflies that wink in & out of existence.
I,m glad someone else has seen this,great post Qui-Gonn.

Good luck on your journeys

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2002, 10:52:42 »

I too have seen sparks looking at the blue skye.....
Probably some fenomenon caused by the strong light and the
lack of things to focus on..
glad someone else has seen this too

 
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2002, 16:15:38 »

Winged Wolfie, thx for your input, perhaps you are right, as good a theory as any I reckonī...

 Mobius, when you said they "swarm around like microscopic
fireflies that wink in & out of existence", you hit right on the nail!
 Thatīs a great way of describing it/them Iīd say. So you sister and your gf is seeing them as well, perhaps it is more common than I thought then...  I guess when looking right into something very bright everyone would see some "dots" or "bubbles" (and even then, I wouldnīt think they would swarm around like fireflies), but this isnīt like that, one (or at least this is the case for me) doesnīt need any bright light source to see them.

 Distant Bell, from what you describe it might not be the same thing, that is if you donīt see them always when "trying" (not willing) and donīt need a bright light source such as the sky on a bright day.
It just gets a lil easier to see them when having for example daylight available.
  But hey, it could be the same anyway, I am not an expert on this as you have already realized...  (better to take it in english or I would tinkle the other ones off;)

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2002, 17:31:33 »

Hey !
I was out walking with a friend one day.. and all of a sudden he said
- I think I can se the molecules when I look at the sky.. or perhpas there is something wrong with my eyes...

He obviously saw the thing Mobius described.. and many others with him
- including me.

I kind of think that Mobius description is good- but the light dosnīt have to be that strong to se them.

As ALWAYS winged wolfe seems to have the best answer!
-Your quite a living dictionary wolifi!!, great to have you on the forum!

How long has it been going on for you Qui-Jinn?  
For me it has been this way as loong as I can remember ( which dosnīt have to be a wery loong time- but in this case I think it is..)

 
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2002, 18:34:26 »

Yea, wolifi is a clever girl Wink perhaps there is something to her theory, but when more and more seem to see this (if it the same everyone see) I doubt all of them have dead cells floating around or any illness, and I donīt think that would cause the firefly bubble effect to be honest...  but as I said - who knows?  Iīm no eye specialist in any way.

Felix - I donīt remma howlong Iīve seen them, but itīs been like this for many years...  how many, that I  will leave unsaid..

  Iīve got many thoughts/opinions on this so thx everyone, Iīm a lil bit "wiser" now than when I posted my first one I reckonī..  although my I donīt really know what "theory" to place my 2 cents on just yet;)

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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2002, 14:19:42 »

I have something I want to ask your opinion on.
  I have been able to see for many many years, small pretty much transparent dots/bubbles, all around, they are everywhere.
 I see them more clearly and easier though when for example looking out a window in day light, having the sky as background is ideal.
  They are never still, always moving, when I fix my eyes on some of them they tend to move rather slow (and I can sometimes will them in the direction I desire), and they sometimes are bigger taking different forms than the small bubbles.
Often small elliptical strings.
  When I just look out in "nothingness", not focusing my eyes I see only the bubbles, and now they move incredibly fast, in all directions, itīs a bubble chaos almost!!

  I am not disturbed by this at all, just wondering what it could be, energy or some sort of a very odd eye "problem".
   It is not the sort of dots you get before your eyes when you look  into the sun or any other strong light, this is something completely different and always there present...


    Anyone seeing seeing something like this, or have any idea of what this can be I am seeing??  It would be very interresting to hear your thoughts..

   Be well //Qui-Gon

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