energy work and alcohole

[Tom]

Actually, I can say that it is possible to do energy work while very intoxicated. The complication from lack of concentration is that directing the energy is a lot harder. It is like trying to run on wet ice, but not as painful. Having done both NEW and reiki while intoxicated, I can say that it isn't really any better to do either when drunk.


 

[Grenade01]

I have a little bit of achohol occasionally before hand..
I can't say being very intoxicated has brought me anything
but just enough to relax does seem to help me a bit
(especially if i do it in the day)
because then its like my body feels relaxed but I still have the daytime effect of not falling asleep

I dont know if it inhibits anything...but i certainly hope not because it sure seems like it helps!

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[Fenris]

Had a really good nights meditation after a lot of caffeine, Im not sure if this makes sence or not. I guess it is ment to help neurons fire faster which may help with consentration, but on the other hand you want your brain to slow down I guess.

Veni Vidi Vici

[Grenade01]

yeah
little bit of caffiene before bed or alchohol in the day seems to help me


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[Fenris]

Any excuse! http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_wink.gif" border=0>

Veni Vidi Vici

[kakkarot]

that's really odd to me. whenever i drink alcohol, i am no longer able to feel my energy at all. my mind speeds up exponentially (which is really cool and FUN  ) but i lose contact with my spirit after even one drink. boy, i must be pretty weird .

~kakkarot

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[bitsmart]

From a drug addict who had a falling out and has now been sober for about four months, I'm realizing more and more that for me, chemicals do more harm than good. This includes the medications that I was prescribed at the beginning of treatment. Now, old habits die hard, and I consume a LOT of caffiene and nicotine, but I intend to eventually put down all chemicals and live as healthy a life as I can.

There's no doubt about it, chemicals have an effect on spiritual activities, and while some of these effects may be construed as positive or helpful, when I learned the real effects of chemicals on the mind, body, and spirit (including caffiene and similar 'commonly accepted chemicals') I can't justify their use.

Keep in mind, this is someone who once preached the pros of drugs wherever he went and used to meditate with marijuana. I've totally been there. Of course, everyone has to come to their own conclusions. I'm sure a lot of you have heard the saying before that goes 'you can get a lot higher without chemicals than with.' Even now it's hard for me to fully believe this, but I see it as a challenge too: just how high can I get? I mean, that mentality will always be there, I'm an addict. The thing is, what am I addicted to? Healthy things, or unhealthy things?

No bull, when I got sober my energetic development and meditation/trance ability went through the roof. And compared to before, the awareness and present-moment mindfulness that Buddhism taught me has brought an unheard-of clarity to my life. Clarity of vision, of mind, and an energetic/psychic clarity.

I wish all of you the best and encourage you to at least research the chemicals you use in-depth. God bless...

bitsmart -
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[distant bell]

My question was actually rather intended to be like this- Do I have to stop drinking beer in the eavnings in order to keep up my NEW work?
Not if alcohole has a positive effect...
I do like beer and drink beer sometimes in the eavnings, and always like to do my energy work late in the eavnings before bed. And I have quite a dilema because I like to drink beer, but I like to do NEW too!

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

[Grenade01]

I understood your question, and in my opinion no (unless you are drinking a lot...which you indicated you weren't)

But thats my opinion

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[Gerdon]

Actaully I did look into caffine the other week to see what exactly it does. From what I read i don't thin it would help your neruons fire faster. The big thing it does do is cause your blood vessels constrict and makes blood flow harder therefore increasing your blood pressure not to mention making it harder on your heart.

It is also quite addicting though I'm sure alot of you including me don't need to be told that. But its also alot harder to avoid since it comes naturally in alot of things wuch as chocolate is full of it and dark chocolate is even worse. There is still 9-15 mg's of caffine in a cup of decaffinated coffee which is better than the 235-250 mg is the usual cup. Coffee Ice cream has lkie 40 mg per cup. One ounce of milk chocolate has 15 mg of natural caffine and an ounce of dark chocolate has 35mg.
Most pain killers have it in it since caffine helps acetaminophine work better.

How much caffeine is too much really depends on your individual tolerance. For some, the 9 milligrams in a milk chocolate bar will go without notice. But a person who is extremely sensitive or who's had too much may experience side effects, such as an elevated heart rate, nausea and vomiting, restlessness, anxiety, depression, tremors, and difficulty sleeping.

So thats about it. With some help some web md

Also looked up codine and doctors still don't even know how it works they just know it does. Nice eh

Gerdon


 

[distant bell]

Wery interesting!

I tried to learn to drink coffe once (it can be usefull when one goes
to different places where coffe is the only thing served- and it´s a
social thing to I guess..)
Anyway, I had a cup of coffe, and then to my surprise I feelt
pretty sick the whole day! Not in the stomage, but rather I feelt
other things.. a restlesness, and general feeling of unwellness..

So I will not touch coffe again!

Felix

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

[Tom]

There are over 50 species called coffee. Two are used commercially. Only one has any hope of having a decent flavor, but the other species grows better and is more resistant to disease. When the right coffee is chosen, though, and picked by hand and sorted and processed (including roasting) and used while fresh, there are still possible ways for it to taste bad. The quality of the water, the way it is filtered, temperature, exposure to oxygen, and several other factors are involved. It isn't necessarily the caffeine which causes unpleasant symptoms such as nausea. It is often the oils and acids which are less troublesome in higher quality coffee. The way it is prepared can also lower the levels of these things.

Caffeine pills with ephedrine (the brand I like is called "yellow jackets") seem to help me with meditation. My biggest problem is becoming cold and drowsy when trying to meditate. This is usually because of lack of sleep now. Suppressing the symptoms works for me.

This thread was initially about alcohol. Alcohol causes dehydration and it is not good on any of the systems of the body. In small quantities, though, someone who is healthy shouldn't have much trouble with it. The loss of water and vitamins should be easily replaced. If you consider the energy we use in NEW as being like electricity, though, the amount of water in the body and the concentrations of salts in that water might be significant. Dehydration could increase the concentration of salts in the body unless those salts are flushed out of the body. I don't know what happens exactly. What I do know is that the more salts in solution the more conductive it becomes.


 

[distant bell]

Dose active music promote the effect of NEW? or dose it have the opposit effect? I have tried to do NEW while listening to energetic music, but it made it harder to concentrate and focus. I usually prefere to listen to some wery quiet and slow music while doing NEW. This might just be a matter of haibt though. After all it is said that NEW can be practised waliking or on the buss too. I guess that it al comes down to concentration- and the ability to shut of external influences.

Felix

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

[Tom]

William Buhlman (author of "Adventures Beyond the Body") has CDs out with music for astral projection. Other things, too, I think. They are designed to cause a shift in consciousness to make things easier, but are not enough in themselves. I think we've concluded that if something works, you should use it.


 

[Grenade01]

When I use new sometimes I like to listen to dark ambient music.  I like a lot of darkwave without lyrics (kind of goth ambient stuff that has a lot of viola and dark atmosphere)  Not that Im getting into feeling evil, it just puts me in a mindset that seems to help.  I associate the dark music with night time and night time with meditation and sleep, and so ..i dunno its weird but I seem to do pretty good with it.  The problem is a lot of songs have some type of instrument that kind of stands out when your in meditation, and it will often shatter the silence so to speak (even if its not really all that much louder then the rest) so its hard to find music perfect.  I have a lot of ambient and the more upbeat stuff always seems to have those distracting noises. I love the songs looking glass (reprise version) and poppies by amber asylum.  

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