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« on: December 03, 2012, 19:37:40 »

This is a double post, I meant originally to just draw some chit chat, with a crazy theory of mine. The more I draw from it, the more it started to make sense in a disturbing kind of way. And I will not apologize for the double post, knowing full well that I am violating the rules, but I think once you hear me out, and read this message in it's entirety, you will see why I am so worked up over this. And You will see why I want this community to focus primary on this topic, if only for a moment.

I just had this idea that may sounds far fetched. But what if all we are all part of some game on a massive playing field?

I know there seems to be a popular concept out there. from nothing came a singularity, and from that came duality. And now duality should take us hopefully into Unity.

What if unity is a lie, what if love is a challenge, along with the right to mate due to thousands of years of human programming?

What if humanity has been playing this dualistic game for years, and the main chakras are levels?

What if each chakra presented a new challenge. Each challenge having something to do with the chakra.

Level 1
The root chakra was easy, we just bonked ourselves up to level 2. next.

Level 2

The spleen chakra, in which social skills were thrown into the mix before we were able to level up baby, and make a.... well a baby.

level 3

In which emotions were thrown in and thus our populous was forced to deal with drama AND social skills before leveling up, baby. baby. baby (okay, i'll stop now, you get the idea)

level 4

Now with the addition of the Heart chakra love is thrown into the mix, love in all it's messiness. Remember now, without love there would be no loneliness. Love, when it comes to producing ones offspring is just another challenge.

Level 5

What if at this stage of the course of humanity is when we achieved verbal communication skills, a whole other challenge. Perhaps at this stage is when we had to master oral communication to precipitate the heart of our mate, to get her emotions (solar plexus) going, emotions to make her socialize with us just we we could plant the seed. Voila, game over. Well, no, not yet you see.....

Level 6

The third eye, what if this is our greatest achievement as humanity up until this point.

Level 7

What if.... We conquered esp (or at lease the potential for esp)

What if during the last golden age esp was even a part of the mating ritual.

So then what is our current challenge? OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET!?

Well to survive the physical world, we have had to overcome lions, tigers, bears, bacteria and virus with its own agenda, plants that can eat certain animals (and who knows what other scary thing from nature died out, but still our ancestors had to survive these brutal things.

So what if these 'higher' entities are just another set of lions, and tigers, and bears. using all of our senses to fool us. What if they want to take our spot as the dominant species? what if they are trying fool us to snare ourselves into a bear trap, so to say, by dividing and tricking us all (maybe even opening people's minds to the point where a doorway is possible to invade their bodies)

And to do so they have tricked us all time and time again, misleading religious leaders, politicians, rock stars (aleister crowley), and perhaps even you and i....



What if their intention all along was to weigh us down by a ton of karma on each and everyone of us by tricking us telepathically to trick one another communicatory, to trick one another emotionally, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER SOCIALLY, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER AND GO bonk OURSELVES  and dividing us from truth? Hmm. I mean, if that was their plan, it seems to be working.

Maybe that explains the pyramid. It reminds me of the song eye in the sky by Alan Parsons, man, talk about symbolism.


For those of you not familiar with the lyrics.

I am the eye
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can treat you blind

Wow, I did not mean for any of this to make so much sense. I don't know what else to say really other than discuss. If this is true higher entities could be posing as higher selfs, but perhaps to them we are nothing more than bears waiting to be trapped, or cows waiting to be slaughtered

This is something that seriously has to be considered by this community as it consists of people who are very intouch with their sixth sense.

Perhaps six six six number of the beast, is fear mongering!

This is making too much sense guys... Connect the dots, and ask your own tuition on this and see if it resonates with you at all. DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR HIGHER SELF ON THIS CONCEPT, this is something that you should only trust your intuition on, your dna is encoded with your ancestors memories.

Discuss.

Edit: Also what if astral projection was meant to be the next first step for finding one's mating partner. It would seem to be the proper first step to dating for an enlightened society right?

I mean in the astral world when dealing with another human being soul I hear you can see their truth, as well as their lies. So it seems if we were enlightened as a species as opposed to bars (getting drunk and looking for a partner? what?) we would go onto the astral plane and find our perfect enlightened match while being full of clarity.... leading to a utopia......


Which by definition doesn't exist. But by whose definition? This is weird. I keep finding more dots. Will update. I welcome other people to connect dots here too. I don't know if this is true or not. I feel so uncertain about everything these days. I think this topic HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY what if december 21 2012 is game over?
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 20:18:24 »

This is a different perspective of all things. Some may be the truth but I can see many things not adressed at all. Your mind is young and so is your spirit. You are not afraid to speak which is a requirement of a trailblazer. Some of the comments made certainly need addressing far later in your life, especially the views of the astral side.
 Anyone very experienced should have seen the limits within your comments.
The physical existance on this planet is very short. The continuation after becomes a speculation for most and after that existance still moreso.
Id recommend a thorough study of yourself after several years of 'astral' experiences. A few hundred retrievals and at least a handful of major quests successfully completed.
I'll guarantee your post above will be similar but the changes themselves will have a background of learned knowledge from experiences that speak volumes.
Hats off to you for such an outlook.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 20:18:24 »

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 22:54:40 »

ohsumnotsodumbboy lol

Interesting alternative to the norm.

Hold on to that idea and learn to quieten your mind so that you can investigate this theory yourself. But don't look for evidence to support it... be open minded and skeptical... be open to other options. If you obsess about thats specific 'victim' based idea of the meaning of existence you may find what you are looking for while the rest pass you by.

A little clue... the dualistic nature of humanity is a fallacy. Dualism and the idea of survival of the fittest... wasn't the reason we turned from a single cell to a multicellular organism. All the cells... work together as a massive symbiotic organism that is purely functioning for the good of the whole. Maybe the 'game' is for these independent multicellular organisms to return to their roots of cooperation... that we have lost our way due to 'human programming'.

The dots will connect because you are basing it on an ultimate truth... I think the priorities may be a little mish-mahed. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 16:23:30 »

What if the truth is really a lie about another truth that is also another lie that leads to a truth that happens to really be a lie?

I think until you find your conclusion you just have to trust your intuition while remaining healthily skeptical. What other option is there?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 18:25:15 »

What if the truth is really a lie about another truth that is also another lie that leads to a truth that happens to really be a lie?

I think until you find your conclusion you just have to trust your intuition while remaining healthily skeptical. What other option is there?
 Very well said Stookie!  smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 21:04:15 »

To everyone who's replied: Thanks for the feedback and entertaining my whack-o theory. I am starting to see I may be overanalyzing things.

There just seem to be so many sides, that divide our species... Even though the most part we all seem to want the same basic things (love, goodness, and unity amongst ourselves)

I wonder how it got that way in the first place... Anyway, kind regards.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 22:12:46 »

hell,what if we are just part of some Ancient creature?And when it wakes up it wil be like none of us ever existed,but we wont know...since we dont exist anymore
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 22:37:00 »

Let the beast be silent,
Nay slayer nor poison apply,
Time the ultimate enemy,
Undoes the physical lie.
Farafter in places unknown
Yourself its secrets unfold,
Your bones your sinew well rotten.
The answer before you unfolds.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 23:06:07 »

Perhaps it is simply a repeating pattern, a vibration which either intensifies or not.  As the pattern builds on itself, it increases it's vibration in terms of geometery, thereby giving rise to the semblance of physicality which we perceive as reality.  In meditation, we can learn how to stop the vibration, and then, look out!  Cuz once you are at FULL STOP, then you can potentially escalate your vibration to any possible pattern of vibration.

If vibration is an oscillation, or undulation, then it has a pattern which we perceive.  At different frequencies of vibration, we would require the basis of the chakra in order to have the dimensional capacity to perceive those frequencies.  Some people say that everything is happening at once, both past and future, all spaces, all minds.  Perhaps in meditation, as the lotus opens, we can undo the damage that our biased beliefs and censorship of what we like and don't like, has done.  Then, we are free to patch into any vibrational spectrum that we would 'like' or not like, as it were.

For instance, as a physical being, we have five primary senses.  They say that each of those senses are connected to a chakra.  I forget the naturally occuring order in the system that I studied.  It was a book called 'energy ecstasy and your seven chakra' by Bernard Gunther.  An excellent read with poetic style.  Yet, if we consider that space is infinite in all directions, both within and without, all around, in every angular momentum or trajectory of impulses, then perhaps open minds and free hearts are all that make us who we are.  The rest is simply resisting what exists, which would be, not just one universe of repeating voidal implosions (mass), but an Omniverse of unlimited potential and absolute existence.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 01:19:14 »

Perhaps it is simply a repeating pattern, a vibration which either intensifies or not.  As the pattern builds on itself, it increases it's vibration in terms of geometery, thereby giving rise to the semblance of physicality which we perceive as reality.  In meditation, we can learn how to stop the vibration, and then, look out!  Cuz once you are at FULL STOP, then you can potentially escalate your vibration to any possible pattern of vibration.

If vibration is an oscillation, or undulation, then it has a pattern which we perceive.  At different frequencies of vibration, we would require the basis of the chakra in order to have the dimensional capacity to perceive those frequencies.  Some people say that everything is happening at once, both past and future, all spaces, all minds.  Perhaps in meditation, as the lotus opens, we can undo the damage that our biased beliefs and censorship of what we like and don't like, has done.  Then, we are free to patch into any vibrational spectrum that we would 'like' or not like, as it were.

For instance, as a physical being, we have five primary senses.  They say that each of those senses are connected to a chakra.  I forget the naturally occuring order in the system that I studied.  It was a book called 'energy ecstasy and your seven chakra' by Bernard Gunther.  An excellent read with poetic style.  Yet, if we consider that space is infinite in all directions, both within and without, all around, in every angular momentum or trajectory of impulses, then perhaps open minds and free hearts are all that make us who we are.  The rest is simply resisting what exists, which would be, not just one universe of repeating voidal implosions (mass), but an Omniverse of unlimited potential and absolute existence.

That entire message just blew me away. Bravo.

I will have to check out this book.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 17:24:03 »

I just had this idea that may sounds far fetched. But what if all we are all part of some game on a massive playing field?

This idea is not new. In the early 20th century David Bohm (a well known quantum physicist) came up with the idea of the "quantum hologram" - which is not quite the same but heads into the same direction. An increasing number of scientists nowadays support the simulation-idea. The theory is called "Digital Physics" and is more or less nothing but the theory that the entire physical universe is a simulation. Surprisingly the number of hints to support this theory are increasing, e.g. the recent discovery that time and space indeed might be quantized too. But the strongest hint might be the weired wave-particle-duality. The most recent interpretation is that as long as the properties of a certain particle are not relevant (e.g. for kollisions, bindings or interactions with other particles) or are not explicitely asked for (e.g. by a measurement), the particle simply does not exist as physical matter but only as information which has a wave character (a ripple in the probability field). The entire physical world thus might be a particle simulation system, but since particle interactions require a huge amont of compute power a data reduction algorithm is needed. Here the wave-particle-duality comes into play - it is only calculated what is needed.
Physical matter is an illusion created by energy fields. This is almost certain - there's nothing solid about it at all. I'm a scientist myself. The first thing I had to give up when I started with particle physics was the idea that matter is something solid.

So far the science facts. Robert Monroe (a well known OBE-pioneer) made on his journeys some observations that support the theory - he even said "far out" he could find the emitters that create the wavefield that builds the foundation for the physical world. I cannot comment on this.

The entire "Matrix-Trilogy" (movie) is based on the simulation idea, although I don't know where they got the idea from.

Last but not least R. Monroe discovered (or rather was informed) that there is something like "losh" which is part of a oeconomy in the NPR. He found some very disturbing things that he never could rule out.

Strongly believing in not beiing a victim doesn't help the chicken in the laying battery.

So far: Yes, the PR seems very much like a simulation. Who set it up and for what purpose ? That's the real question ...
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 19:48:12 »

My Big TOE by Tom Campbell.

I can't believe more people who are into AP don't read this book. It would save a lot of time. Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 05:52:55 »

My Big TOE by Tom Campbell.

I can't believe more people who are into AP don't read this book. It would save a lot of time. Cheesy
People have access to the Books, the videos and the workshops, most are free. We can only try to point them in the right direction. It's up to them to do the work from there. If you can't sit down and watch a 3 hour seminar because you find it boring, than maybe this practice isn't for you. It takes time, patience and determination if you wish to be successful almost every time you attempt this. Not so much if you just wish to experience it as a one time thing!  smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2012, 09:16:12 »

That's very true. I have heard a few people say they found the book or videos boring. I think this is a clever ploy by Tom himself... to sort the wheat from the chaff.

He congratulates you several times in the book for getting thus far. Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2012, 14:05:21 »

My Big TOE by Tom Campbell. I can't believe more people who are into AP don't read this book. It would save a lot of time. Cheesy

He certainly has some good points, but I think his TOE also doesn't really hit the target. If everything is just "rendered" when we look at it, there would be no need for particles and/or waves at all (simulators don't render objects from particles or waves. They rather render particles and waves as objects). What about the inside of the matter (e.g. a brick) ? According to his theory it should not be there - or at best - it is only created when you break it into pieces and create new surfaces, but the pieces themself then again had to be hollow. According to what science knows so far and what many APers reported, matter is a volumetric phenomenon, i.e. the brick is not empty and thus the matter inside also exists if noone looks at it.

Certainly, the "ME" could be a programm - but it really doesn't matter if it is running on mushroomware (a virtual computer in a virtual reality) and ceases to exist when the brain decays, or if it is runnung on some multidimensional supercomputer and is deleted when the lifetime of the character is up. It doesn't matter - the result is the same. Even if the character could be restartet in (or cloned to) a different reality, it is still only a bunch of data in some computer that sooner or later will be extinguished when the system is shut down.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2012, 15:48:40 »

You obviously haven't read it and have just heard that it's something to do with a computer simulation... or you have watched a video or two and totally misunderstood it.

There is no 'rendering'. It's not digital as in made on a computer... It's analogous to what we understand as 'digital'. It's digital in nature. There is no supercomputer to shut down.

It's got nothing to do with Schrödinger's cat.. in that 'is the cat still there when there's no one to see it'... that's philosophical reverie and nothing to do with reality.

Nowhere in Campbell's theory does it state that objects aren't volumetric or that you have to be looking at something for it to exist. That's just ridiculous.

Also there is absolutely no 'ME' being programmed... nowhere does he state that we are 'programmes'. Again... any mention of this reality being like an online computer simulation is an analogy that best befits the model. Like it is a fractal of... not actually of.
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