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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 20:34:34 » |
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And for only $32.00 that secret could be yours! 
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 20:34:34 » |
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 21:40:33 » |
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kundalini - once started it can't be turned off
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 18:21:31 » |
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Google for ... Kundalini Tantra Swami Satyananda Saraswati ... The best and most detailed book on the matter, includes almost all the methods and step by step. You will perhaps find a pdf and if not the book costs a little bit less than a burger.
Warning: Do it at your own risk ! Be wise.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 18:44:48 » |
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kundalini - once started it can't be turned off
Its flow can be started and stopped. It feels very real. It has a "mind" of its own and once triggered, it tends to start on its own sometimes. If one is a novice, it becomes a bit difficult to stop it, but a master can stop it, even turn it back. But it takes effort to start the flow and maintain it, thats the goal, no one would like to stop it. IMO, when you practice AP, it rises up and releases you from the body. On the way up it produces vibrations, pulsations, lights and noises (even pain in newbies, but mostly a tingle for experienced AP`ers). When it goes down again you are back in the body. It often produces tiredness and a metallic taste in the mouth.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 20:53:16 » |
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... but a master can stop it, even turn it back.
I really doubt that claim, based on witness accounts I've found on the net.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 03:15:23 » |
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Well I don't have personal proof or any references handy, but this is based on many stories of gurus igniting the kundalini of their students just by touch or silencing it if it causes too much trouble.
The process of such ignition is called 'Shaktipat' (descent of power) and is some kind of energy transfer.
Nowdays its possible to receive it simply by sending a letter with your photo to the authorized guru (or by email also possibly) and if you are worthy they do it. I can't say how effective it is. Its no longer a big secret these days.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 11:22:12 » |
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... and if you are worthy they do it.
In what way _worthy_ ?
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 15:05:55 » |
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I really doubt that claim, based on witness accounts I've found on the net. "... but a master can stop it, even turn it back."I'm assuming Psan's statement is also based upon witness accounts. So, honestly? Who do you choose to believe? Let me just say that... you believe what you read too readily and it seems without question too. That's a very bad habit to get into.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 15:22:31 » |
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That's a very bad habit to get into.
How do u know what habits I have?
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 17:07:32 » |
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How do u know what habits I have? I don't. It was a suggestion. I have been noticing that you're getting very defensive about everything these days... Hmm, perhaps it's just my mind playing tricks on me. Oh well.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 17:39:58 » |
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I have been noticing that you're getting very into discussing me as a person and not so much the subject of the thread.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2011, 17:58:29 » |
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I don't. It was a suggestion.
I have been noticing that you're getting very defensive about everything these days... Hmm, perhaps it's just my mind playing tricks on me. Oh well.
It's not your mind playing tricks. I've noticed this too. Unless we are having a collective hallucination! 
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2011, 18:44:50 » |
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I have been noticing that you're getting very into discussing me as a person and not so much the subject of the thread. Case in point.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 03:04:15 » |
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In what way _worthy_ ?
It is said that it awakens great powers, so some people are after it for just that. It becomes a responsibility of the Guru to choose the right people. Secondly, there are people who want it badly but are not ready mentally or physically. It demands a strong person both in body and mind. Usually takes a few years of preparation. So how do they find out if one is worthy ? Either by using their abilities or simple tricks. If you send a letter or attain a group initiation, you don't instantly become a Buddha the next day. Its not possible (except for Buddhas). What is done is that only a small tickle of energy is transmitted, a spark, and you are told to practice everyday (say 2 hours) to cultivate it. (40 days of intense practice, 6 months of good practice and then regular practice. Usually the symptoms appear in 6 months to 1 year) Those who are not serious quickly give up, those who are too closed minded or skeptical, laugh at it and move on. Power hungry people usually stick to it but lack the necessary peace of mind and "Sattvaguna" to achieve anything and resort to usual means of gaining power/money. At last only the worthy ones are left, may be less than 1% of all those who attempted. Nature is a good filter. 
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2011, 03:13:21 » |
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"... but a master can stop it, even turn it back." I'm assuming Psan's statement is also based upon witness accounts.
I can assure you that I did not pull them from thin air. This forum and AP community have given me a lot, just trying to repay a bit. I have no claim and ask you to verify everything in case you wish to act on it. (I do the same). Belief is a poor substitute for knowledge. To know you must experience. Its not possible to experience anything by simply reading witness accounts, but that's a good way to explore into new territories. No harm in posting others experiences. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2011, 03:27:22 » |
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It's not your mind playing tricks. I've noticed this too. Unless we are having a collective hallucination!  Pauli was accurate in his observation, from where I view the picture.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2011, 03:30:46 » |
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I really doubt that claim, based on witness accounts I've found on the net. Let me just say that... you believe what you read too readily and it seems without question too. That's a very bad habit to get into. How do u know what habits I have? I don't. It was a suggestion. I have been noticing that you're getting very defensive about everything these days... Hmm, perhaps it's just my mind playing tricks on me. Oh well. It's not your mind playing tricks. I've noticed this too. Unless we are having a collective hallucination! I have been noticing that you're getting very into discussing me as a person and not so much the subject of the thread. Case in point. What a team! JJ In what way _worthy_ ? It is said that it awakens great powers, so some people are after it for just that. It becomes a responsibility of the Guru to choose the right people. Secondly, there are people who want it badly but are not ready mentally or physically. It demands a strong person both in body and mind. Usually takes a few years of preparation.
So how do they find out if one is worthy ? Either by using their abilities or simple tricks. If you send a letter or attain a group initiation, you don't instantly become a Buddha the next day. Its not possible (except for Buddhas). What is done is that only a small tickle of energy is transmitted, a spark, and you are told to practice everyday (say 2 hours) to cultivate it. (40 days of intense practice, 6 months of good practice and then regular practice. Usually the symptoms appear in 6 months to 1 year)
Those who are not serious quickly give up, those who are too closed minded or skeptical, laugh at it and move on. Power hungry people usually stick to it but lack the necessary peace of mind and "Sattvaguna" to achieve anything and resort to usual means of gaining power/money. At last only the worthy ones are left, may be less than 1% of all those who attempted. Nature is a good filter.  Nature is a wonderful filter. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2011, 21:52:04 » |
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Well Kundaline cant be fully turned off is a more correct assertion. But after several years one does learn how not to agrevate it and it may for all practical purposes be said to be off. One also learn how to invoke it if thats the desire. This control over it i guess comes naturally with time if Kundalini delusions havent gotten the better of you.
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