mixing systems

[distant bell]

David-
I agree with you, it is better to learn one system well than jumping around between many different and not learning any of them for real..
But- what if al these different systems are only different names and iterpretations of the same thing?
I strongly doubt that there is such a great difference between the different energys that different systems talk about. So take NEW for example-
Did the NEW energy come into existens as Robert Bruce invented the system? I hardly think so!!
I belive that Robert Bruce didi like this- he used the scientific method and really investigated if there is an energy in the body and how best to manipulate it. I still think that there is ONE energy.
Every system has it´s own name for it.
After al, there are several different gods to - shall we run around beliving that there is one Alah, one Jahve, one krishna and so on.. or shall we se it as different ways to explain one divine source. I for one do not belive that there are a whole pantheon of different gods, all existing att the same time, all real and al monoteistic.. So why should I belive that every kind of name the different systems use for the energy body is a real existing energy?

I belive rather that the things that take place on the astral/ethereal plane are so subjective- or rather influenced by our thoughts, that we shape the one energy into a form that we expect. Another interesting thing is this- How do we know that one energy is percived the same way by al people?
New can feel quite different for different people- And by the way WHAT kind of energy is the NEW energy?

Felix

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --

[cainam_nazier]

It is much the same as with learning to fight.  When all is said and done it all boils down to a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick.  

I do not think that the energies themselves are very different at all, only a persons perception of them.  I personall only see two different kinds of energy, that which is free born or naturally occuring and that which comes from a person.  The only reason I see the difference is because for me energy that comes from a person or entity is "tainted" by them, be it a good or bad thing depends on the person.



David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.

[kakkarot]

don't mean to sound like a jerk, but i thought i would tell ya something about my experiences. this is what i was gonna post elsewhere, but i decided not to post it there and instead i thought i would post it here.
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i know that there are multiple forms of energy. each one can be used in either its most natural patterns, or manipulated so that it is almost a different form of energy. chi, ki, pranic, reiki, hadou, magick, kundalin; these are all different forms of energy from each other, although each CAN be converted from one form to another. this is what my experience dictates. it is not a personal philosophy, i have actually used chi, ki, magick, and kundalin and they are all different forms of energy, each with their own properties and their own natural tendancies. for instance, magick is very easy to mould; shape the energy directly and it tends to stay in that shape until manipulated again. chi, though, is easy to mould, but once you "let go" of it, it goes back to its natural shape(s) and movement patterns; not immediately, but over a minute or less. ki, on the third hand, is hard (relatively) to shape and once you "let go" of it, it reverts very quickly, in a matter of three seconds or less. kundalin isn't something that i have been able to shape very well yet; it just stays in my spine like a rope.

i do not know about pranic, reiki, hadou or NEW from my own experiences, but from logical thinking and research i have been able to come up with a few theories. hadou (which is actually believed to exist) is the ki of living things. ki is a personal form of energy, but by taking it from other living things (trees, animals, etc) you can accumulate mass amounts of ki without expending your own. reiki and pranic i don't know much about, but i am starting to get tempted to believe that NEW is a method of being able to feel chi. BUT I CAN'T VERIFY THIS SINCE I DON'T PRACTICE N.E.W..
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~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[dido]

Hi Ashfo
Yes, I'm afraid you need to buy an em-power disc, unless you know someone in your area who can let you use his or hers.
As a matter of fact I was the first in Italy to have one: I read an advertisement on a Qigong magazine and decided to try it, but all the other people I know that are using it in Italy have tried my or some other friend's disc before buying it.
Coby gives people one month to decide if they want to keep the disc or not, in wich case he gives back the money (but not the postage and packing). I know him personally and I trust him.
Maybe you could ask him if there is some member of the Em-Power Research Project in your area to whome you could ask to try the disc, if you are interested in trying it.

[distant bell]

Many schools say that it is bad to mix different systems. For example, one should not do tai chi and NEW at the same time. I have a hard time beliviving this though. I do not se any wrong in using different systems at the same time. So any comments on this one? Is it a problem to mix NEW, qui gong, kundalini and tantra?

Felix

-- Love is the Law - Love under Will --