Question for personalreality: Sigil (anyone can reply of cause)

[Karas]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_magic/affirmations_sigils_and_the_subconscious-t30844.0.html;msg250044#msg250044

This is alittle diffrnt from what I watched..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX19IvY5CWc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Does it matter how we do it? I'm doing the one in the link above me and see how that goes but I'll try out this one next time. Isn't the masterbation methord black magic? Cause in what iv learned in sexual magic that fireing sperm is black magic unless your doing gray magic which is only occasionlly you ejecaliate.

[blis]

I got instant results from the technique PR posted. I wrote a big post in that thread about it but it got deleted when the server went down.

I used "I am fully aware when I'm(either said sleeping or dreaming cant remember)"

I spent the entire night having lucid dreams, sleep paralysis, false awakenings and RTZ projections. It was the longest night of my life. Didnt feel like I slept at all.

I just drew the sigil on a square pice of paper then held it in my hand and energized it. Then I held it up to my brow chakra and sucked energy through the sigil into my third eye. I then either put it under my pillow or ate it, I cant remember. It was ages ago I did this and I did a lot of other sigils after it too, experimenting with each one.

I got a bit excited by the success of the first one and went a bit overboard with sigil making. It quickly stopped working. I was making like two or three a night. I had to leave it for a long time before sigils would work for me again. So dont go over the top making loads of sigils.

[Karas]

Gona try PR's one then ^.^ I used the same letters as his sample and the picture is simullar but alittle diffent. I'm also wondering maby I should of wrote the hole thing other then just copie someone else's samples but I'll see how it goes.

[blis]

Dude, write you own. Use the same affirmation sure, but write it out and draw your own sigil.

[Karas]

I rewiten the Sigil and changed the hole sentence then charged it and went to bed. Now lol.... I must of done something wrong cause everytime I went into dream state I would wake up and this happened like every second lastnight.  I wrote in caps "I become fully aware when I astral project during sleep" which left me with the letters B M D G F Y J. That sentence shouldn't of misunderstood what I was after >_>

But the good thing is that the sigil works lol.. Just not the way I wanted it to work  

[daytona955]

I might give that a go, can't hurt. 

[blis]

Lol they often dont turn out the way we intend.

It's one of those be careful what you wish for things.

You are becoming fully aware when you astral project. You're becoming fully aware of the physical.

If you use the words am and while instead of become and when you might get better results. The way you phrased it implies some change should happen when you start to project/dream.

I find using the present tense works best with affirmations. Mine almost always start with, "I am".

You didnt state what you become aware of. You could have said, "I am fully aware of my astral projections during sleep." But that doesnt state that you'll be lucid. With my first attempt I was aware throughout the whole night but I wasnt lucid for most of it. You can be aware of stuff without having you're waking consciousness and objectives.

And then you've got to take into account what you'll remember.

It's a balance between trying to keep it short and to the point and being as precise as you can with meaning. I ended up trying several short sigils at the same time,stating all the different things I wanted. Thats when it stopped working. Havent tried them for dreaming/projecting since then.

I've also realised that I wouldnt want to be lucid during all my dreams and projections. Dreams are important. They have a purpose. Certain things wouldnt happen if you were always lucid.

There's a lot to take into account. Sigilry isnt as simple as it seems.

[Karas]

The Sigil tool is pretty intresting and I did a better one for tonight so well see how that goes =D I already got ideas what I wana do with this tool if it works out for me. What stuff did you acheive by useing the Sigil if you don't mind me asking?

[blis]

I didnt do much with it after it stopped working for the dream stuff. But now that I think about it, they were all basically to make me have lots of lucid dreams and obe's. And not a very long time later I was having having lots of spontaneous obe's and LD's.

I used it for the gym as well. I lost a stone in weight, got toned and a six pack. Of course I also put the work in as well but I'd never put that kind of work in before.

[Lionheart]

 The Sigil has always been one of the best tools of Magick. Magick is using thought = action, just as we do when we Phase. Whenever I ask for anything I always add "With harm to none so mote it be so it is done". By voicing this intention you are protecting yourself and others from any actions that come to be as a result of your desires.

[Karas]

Sounds like the sigil ativates something in our sub minds and it manifest it into motivation acts. So I'm guessing casting sigil on others won't help them since they would need to do it themselves to ativate there sub minds?