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for those who did it either partially or the full medusa effect? I'm curios because I really wanna reach enlightenment and I don't want to return in this physical reality. I heard that in order to stop the process of reincarnation one must raise their kundalini. Pleeeaase share it here.... including the details of what to eat, kinds of meditations and counter measures to avoid the troubles of raising kundalini or how to raise kundalini safely
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 15:45:58 » |
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There's no quick fix for this. Its just a natural part of spiritual expansion. If self-knowledge is your path, kundalini will rise.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 19:51:06 » |
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google kundalini yoga, I'm not saying it works as I've never done it, just that aside from personalreality's answer if you're still looking for a different one that's probably be the safest to give you. something like this I guess http://www.dlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_16
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 22:15:39 » |
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for those who did it either partially or the full medusa effect? I'm curios because I really wanna reach enlightenment and I don't want to return in this physical reality. I heard that in order to stop the process of reincarnation one must raise their kundalini. Pleeeaase share it here.... including the details of what to eat, kinds of meditations and counter measures to avoid the troubles of raising kundalini or how to raise kundalini safely The inquiry is sincere, and worthy of as genuine a response as possible. I would begin by saying I did not raise the Kundalini. I am not sure anything I could have done from the physical format would have ever directly influenced Her ascent. I was just a person who felt certain things here in this life to be a bit off. As a young person, and young adult I couldn't quite put my finger on it. There was just always this lingering sense that things were not quite right, which led me into being somewhat reclusive as I pondered this feeling through. The spiritual disciplines I took on as I moved through my life I adopted because they made sense. There was no other reason. There were things I did not understand about myself in relation to this world and these practices highlighted what I felt to know, keeping this always at the front of my mind and at the front of my life. Savasana (dead man's pose) came to me first, then Trataka (conscious gazing), Pranayama (the breathing), then Brahmacarya (in the practical sense, sexual abstinence). I was drawn toward Siva, the masculine disciplines of the jnani. Awareness practices such as Atma Vichara, and teachers such as Sri Ramana Maharshi. Kundalini was not something I ever knew about. I had of course heard of it but my interests did not take me in this direction, or toward texts and practices that would bring it forth. The Divine Feminine (experience) did not interest me, Siva (consciousness) interested me. So, what a surprise, when in January of last year, unbeknownst to me She began rising. My central nervous system went into shock. I had no idea what was happening. But finding out became a matter of what felt to me to be life or death. When I did begin figuring it out, what became painfully clear was that the course of my life, my deepests interests and practices were ALL to help prepare me mind and body for this.. We can prepare ourselves to receive Her, but She will come as She will, entice Her as we may. There is much you can do to help prepare. [this for now]
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 14:47:44 » |
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The spiritual disciplines I took on as I moved through my life I adopted because they made sense. There was no other reason. There were things I did not understand about myself in relation to this world and these practices highlighted what I felt to know, keeping this always at the front of my mind and at the front of my life. Savasana (dead man's pose) came to me first, then Trataka (conscious gazing), Pranayama (the breathing), then Brahmacarya (in the practical sense, sexual abstinence). I was drawn toward Siva, the masculine disciplines of the jnani. Awareness practices such as Atma Vichara, and teachers such as Sri Ramana Maharshi.
thanx for the sincere post there omneycasey, but can you teach me how you actually do this savasana, trataka, pranayama?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 14:52:51 » |
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google kundalini yoga, I'm not saying it works as I've never done it, just that aside from personalreality's answer if you're still looking for a different one that's probably be the safest to give you. something like this I guess http://www.dlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_16Thanx for this link I will read it soon 
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 00:08:25 » |
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A few comments- I agree with personalreality in that Kundalini is a side effect of consciousness expansion- and I do think that a lot of methods can be used to help you on the path- however, I also believe that mechanical disciplines (such as various energy practices and yogas, including Kundalini yoga, which I practice, btw, pranayamas , etc.) are helpful, but not because they cause it to rise- I think they help in preparing you for when it does rise, and it will when it's ready to.
That's why so many different things are called for: Including but not specifically any of them: Meditation, projection practice, energy work (all the possibilities are helpful) K yoga for the physical 'readiness', and whatever was mentioned that I missed. All serve different functions, all developing different aspects of your being for this awakening-transformation/transmutation to happen.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 11:06:02 » |
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There's no quick fix for this. Its just a natural part of spiritual expansion. If self-knowledge is your path, kundalini will rise.
No. You have to do something specific to raise Kundalini. For now the 100th time I say it. Kundalini is not new-age garbage that everybody can experience just sitting cross-ledged. And anyway this is true of every experience, spiritual or not. You have do to something specific to obtain a specific experience. With Kundalini this is yet more true because you awake a specific current. So, Kundalini and self-knowledge are not "mutuals" in the sense that while Kundalini can bring self-knowledge, self-knowledge doesn't bring Kundalini by itself.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 11:13:48 » |
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A few comments- I agree with personalreality in that Kundalini is a side effect of consciousness expansion- and I do think that a lot of methods can be used to help you on the path- however, I also believe that mechanical disciplines (such as various energy practices and yogas, including Kundalini yoga, which I practice, btw, pranayamas , etc.) are helpful, but not because they cause it to rise- I think they help in preparing you for when it does rise, and it will when it's ready to.
No. Kundalini Yoga is a path that mixes Raja Yoga with some forms of Hatha-Yoga. Pranayama is Hatha Yoga. In any case some part of this discourse is correct in the sense that yoga paths brings you to the knowledge required to raise Kundalini, however after you must do something specific. Yogas makes you learn Samadhi that it is required to awake the serpent. After you have to use specific disciplines to awake the same. It doesn't happen by itself. So, absolutely not: Kundalini is NOT a side effect of consciousness expansion, AT ALL. It is a specific current having to do with sexual energy, very specific, very particular.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 00:16:28 » |
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I disagree, kundalini is new age garbage, and gives you kundalini psychosis with waking hallucinations. That or it just makes you really arrogant and act like a know-it-all when we all know you know nothing.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 00:21:35 » |
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I disagree, kundalini is new age garbage, and gives you kundalini psychosis with waking hallucinations. That or it just makes you really arrogant and act like a know-it-all when we all know you know nothing. So far, from what I've seen, I can't argue with that sentiment, Capt. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 10:20:51 » |
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I disagree, kundalini is new age garbage, and gives you kundalini psychosis with waking hallucinations. That or it just makes you really arrogant and act like a know-it-all when we all know you know nothing.
And I suppose you know all this from personal experience, isn't it? Grow a bit of courage for one time in your life and say the truth to yourself. You don't know ABSOLUTELY nothing of what I'm speaking about (i.e. Kundalini), and anyway about the rest. One that really thinks that sleep paralysis (in the real term of the word) is needed to exit the body already shows how much he knows of what he is talking about from first-hand knowledge. Stop reading Lucidology 101 and do something serious. And above all else grow-up a bit. If you don't like me there's no problem, but do you think this gives you the rigth of talking of what you don't clearly know as if you are some sort of expert? And yes, I am arrogant with those as you that speak of things they don't know from personal experience and suppose they already know everything. If this makes me a know-all then so mote it be. As for not knowing of what I talk about everyone can naturally have their opinion on this. Until however you can show with practical examples why is that so (a thing you obvsiouly aren't able to do) then it will always just remain opinion, don't you think?
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 10:22:33 » |
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So far, from what I've seen, I can't argue with that sentiment, Capt.  You are becoming more and more emotional as the time passes, Xanth, how comes? Am I disturbing your sense of leadership?
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 10:45:55 » |
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I disagree, kundalini is new age garbage, and gives you kundalini psychosis with waking hallucinations. That or it just makes you really arrogant and act like a know-it-all when we all know you know nothing.
I'm genuinly surprised that someone who has an interest in the topics discussed on a forum like this would put down people's experiences in such a way. You're giving of some bad vibes mate.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2010, 14:14:05 » |
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You are becoming more and more emotional as the time passes, Xanth, how comes? Am I disturbing your sense of leadership? Please don't push your clearly unstable emotional state onto me please. Thanks a bunch.  I'm genuinly surprised that someone who has an interest in the topics discussed on a forum like this would put down people's experiences in such a way.
You're giving of some bad vibes mate. I'm actually with the Capt. here. I'm really starting to believe that Kundalini is nothing more than a superiority complex. It's just a new age metaphysical reason for people to feel superior over others. Nothing more.
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