What energy?

[dido]

Hi distant bell
just a quick note to say that I'm not aware about any way to 'learn' Reiki by yourself.  Reiki is now a very general word and can be used to define different things: the form I received MUST be passed to a student by a master. Maybe other forms of Reiki allow it.

In my opinion,  we use OUR energy in New whenever we stir, wrap, brush etc. We absorb energy from outside when we raise energy in full body circuit or in partial (legs or arms) raising, i.e. anytime we are drawing energy from feet and hands along the limbs into the body.
This is what Robert teaches in his NEW tutorial: he talks about 'Energy exchange ports'. Their basic function is (I quote) 'to absorb and discharge energy'(pg.4). This raw energy is then processed in the secondary and tertiary centers.
This is in complete accord with the Taoist practices I've been using for quite a lot of time. And my experience is that it is of course possible, and very beneficial, to absorb energy from the earth, the moon, the sun , the wind etc.
I don't know if the healing abilities gained through the NEW system are similar to those obtained from Reiki. The system is quite new, but it should, in my opinion, be a close match. I hope Robert Bruce won't make us wait too long for the promised New book, in which we should find more cases reported.
Ciao
Dido

 

[dido]

Hi Winged Wolf
it seems we have different experiences. Good!
In my Taoist practice I have learnt how to absorb and 'digest' outside sources of energy (earth, moon, sun, stars, wind, etc.) and to store them in the sub- navel  energy storage center (tantien). The feedback feelings I have confirm this increase of energy in me so, according to 'The catch basket concept' of ou hero R.B., it is a fact FOR ME. I can even perceive the different 'tastes' of these energies.

I have also noted that sometimes very sick people make me feel tired, and I attributed this feeling tired to an involuntary 'sucking' of energy out of me. Can you give me another explanation? (it would make me feel better....)

I never heard about Psi energy generated by the nerves: could you explain it to me or give me some refernce to investigate it and to make some experiment to see what I feel? I would be very grateful.
Ciao!
Dido





Edited by - dido on 10 April 2002  15:12:28

[Tia]

My theory, is that it's all ONE energy, travelling through different conduits.  Plants absorb the energy and convert it according to their structure and needs.  People absorb the energy and convert it to various types according to physical/mental/spiritual needs.  I agree with Mark that the chakras convert/distil/refine this energy for the various requirements.  Like food, we convert/refine food into energy through our digestive process.

I have had energy travel through the top of my head on occasions (very rare) and it 'feels' the same as that coming through palms and feet, although I think that the energy is then converted/refined differently through this area.

I have no generator in the soles of my feet, or the palms of my hands, nerves - yes, but no 'generator' in these areas.  Nerves are just conduits (wiring) for the signals from the brain (generator).  I would have to disagree with Winged Wolf because the energy I raise originates from these particular areas in my body that, according to my physical makeup, consist of muscle, nerves and bone.  So I have to assume from my own personal experience that the energy comes from outside of myself, ie; my nervous system does not generate this energy.

Maybe I'm over simplifying things but I liken the human body to a house and it's electrical circuitry.  You have the 'mains' cable running outside your front door, supplied by the electric company.  You cant just plug into this, you need a couple of 'ring mains'  to distribute the electric current evenly.  You can then plug into the ring mains through certain sockets to safely heat and light your house.  ie; according to the wiring determines the kind of power/energy produced from the original 'main supply', wether you want heat or light - or to run the vacuum cleaner.  And, when the builders originaly built your house, they installed a special junction box.  This particular circuitry can be plugged straight into the mains supply and for the use of people who really know what they are doing.  In the wrong hands you could blow up the whole house so they hid the switch and put the circuitry in the basement, out of the way of curious DIY people.

Well thats my theory - so shoot me down in flames - I'll just go build a stronger foundation...

     

 

[Winged_Wolf]

It's all theory.
I can only go by what I observe, and compare it to the observations of those around me.  In cases where one person seems to be observing MORE...I tend to go with that.  I can detect the difference between different types of energy.  It's quite apparent to me.  So assuming it's all the same would be contrary to my own perceptions!

My experience...it's possible to take in and store oustide energies, and this does create a feeling of jitteriness or increased energy.  However, it's illusory, and long-term holding that energy usually increases a person's overall stamina and natural, usuable energy levels.  This is why so many magickal systems insist that you end a session by grounding.  Many of them even warn of the negative effects of retaining, for example, earth energy.
I think a lot of old lore on this has been lost recently, like so many other things, diluted and altered by word of mouth and the general disorganization of the newage movement.

For the record, because I've chosen to develop as a pure-psi, like many other psis who choose to do this, I can no longer take in those outside energy types without experiencing massive discomfort.  There's no way I could be doing so without knowing it, to be sure.

Listen to some fast music that you like--your energy level will increase, I guarantee it.  Strong emotions, intellectual exercise--things which increase nervous system activity also increase psi energy levels.  Whether you believe nerves generate the energy or not, the correlation is unmistakeable.  There is a relationship there.

Sick people may make you tired if you've got a loose hold on your energy, and they're absorbing it via a sort of osmosis (things tend to even out when not seperated, see).  Unless they are practicing psychic vampires, I doubt they are actively sucking your energy away.

Sick people might also make you tired because you're tuning in to their nervous system activity, and their sensations seem to be your own.  A sympathy fatigue, as it were.  If your brain chemistry changes to match your mood, whether induced or natural, you'll be genuinely fatigued by it, even though you've lost nothing and aren't sick.  

The solution to both problems is to learn effective shielding....it always comes back to that.



--Winged Wolf
"I will stare at the sun until its light doesn't blind me, and I will walk into the fire, 'til its heat doesn't burn me, and I will feed the fire...."

[distant bell]

I have a question about the energy that is raised with the NEW system.
What kind of energy is it and where dose it come from? Dose it actually enter the body through the feet and hands? If I draw energy from my surroundings- dose that have an depleting effect on the energy level of the surrounding? After all the energy has to come from some where. Or is it just a matter of expanding the energy already present in the energy body.

I have read about things like psyhic vampierism, and many people seem to belive that you can establish a energy conecction to another person and then drain them on there energy. Of course this would be a horrible thing to do. Is there any possibility that one dose this unconciously? That a honest atempt to rais energy in the NEW manner might affect people around you? That the you unconsioulsly drain someone else instead of raising the energy yourselfe. Or that you do something similar in interaction with other people just as a habit,
since the energy raising has become a habit. I guess that this seems unlikely- but some people might have a naturall "gift" for establishing these energy conections with other people... and perhaps drain others against there wake consiousness will, because this energy might be stronger or easier to get.

I hope this all makes some kind of sense
 

Would this energy be able to sustain the physicall body fully or partially? Would increased NEW and trance work lover the bodily need for usual food?  

I have heard about people who claim to be able to practically no food at all- some even say that they can take in all there energy through
other channels than the usuall way through food.
I have never meet anybody like this though- and untill I see it with my own eyes, I probably whant belive it fully.

But it seems logical that it should be possible to take some of the energy for the body from energy work.

Any opinons?