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« on: September 18, 2004, 08:05:51 » |
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Hi all, I was attempting to upload the MP3 version to the file library, but they're a little pushed for space at the moment. So I've uploaded it to my site instead. The main post above has been updated to show this link too. Note: only download if you have a fast connection - it's a hefty 68MB! Enjoy! 
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2004, 14:18:37 » |
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Are sure this sound file does not screw up ones natural ability to attain altered states of consciousness? Any long-term experiences anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2004, 16:39:24 » |
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Programs such as BWGen, Hemi-Sync, etc. "entrain" the brain to enter these states, so in actuality they make it easier for a person to enter them naturally. I haven't had time to check this one out, but if I get a chance I'll post my response.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 20:41:21 » |
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Hi Yothu, the idea of tracks like these is to train the brain to be able to produce certain electrical responses. In and of themselves, they are not a "crutch" - instead, after experiencing the state they induce, you should be able to reproduce the state unaided more easily, simply by remembering and recreating how you felt. However, if you exclusively use them when you meditate, I imagine you could become subconsciously attached to them - in the same way some people need particular lighting, incense, music.. A couple of quotes from The Monroe Institute FAQs: Q:Will I always need to use the tapes/CDs? A: Absolutely not. They are like training wheels on a bicycle: wonderful for practice but possibly inhibiting as you learn to ride far and free.
Q:I understand that after a while we really do not need the tapes/CDs to achieve different states of consciousness. How do I remember Hemi-Sync® signals? A: It is true that with practice, you do not need the tape/CD exercises to reach expanded states of consciousness. After you become proficient with an exercise, all you need to do is recall the sensations you experienced during what you consider to be your best, most effective response in the desired states. Simply take a deep breath and remember the state to trigger the change in consciousness.
Q:Are Hemi-Sync® methods useful for experienced meditators or people who have long practice in other disciplines? A: The many such people who participate say, "Definitely yes!" They appreciate such benefits as the speed and ease of attaining the expanded state; the ability to sustain the state; the tools and guidelines for exploration. Hemi-Sync® seems to meet people wherever they are in their development and assists them in moving forward into even deeper levels of self-discovery.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2004, 21:15:57 » |
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M'kay. I tried it this afternoon(4:30-5:30 PM local), after lunch, on the bed in my clothes. That is about the worst conditions you can have for an OBE. I have to say it's a pretty good mix. I would have like the Chakra sounds to go in step and repeat, instead of a single long step, but I'm a fast opener so it's probably set pretty well for the typical user. I did get vibrations, along with the ususal hypongocis stuff. I almost phased out, but lunch kept making me swallow, so I get having to re-focus and try again. I may try it one evening, or the perinial get up and let my dogs out at 6 AM tomarrow and see hos it goes when I'm working under better conditions. I never phase very well in the middle of the day, strictly a creature of the night [  ] [Edit] Additional note. I was very 'UP' and energised afterward. A little more so than my usually afternoon meditation. But then I usually don't go for an hour, just 1/2 hour.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2004, 12:01:03 » |
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Glad you liked it Rastus, and definitely let us know how it goes with an evening session..
All feedback appreciated, good or otherwise - especially if it's constructive - as I'll try to incorporate any ideas when I produce the next one!
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 10:27:47 » |
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i'm downloading it now.. i probably wont have time to listen to it until i get back from school tho. cant wait to try it out though  thanks [  ]
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2004, 15:34:35 » |
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Do I need headphones for this?
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2004, 16:32:43 » |
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Yes, headphones are best - but stereo speakers positioned either side so that they point directly into each ear should work reasonably well also. Mostly I'll use headphones, but I've also got speakers strapped to my bedposts if I want to use a track drifting off to sleep - I know the effects are reduced if I roll on my side, but at least I don't get strangled by the headphone cord!
Basically, it works by sending a slightly different tone to each ear. As these 2 tones are blended together in the brain the wavering sound you hear (a binaural beat) pulses at the frequency that you're trying to get our brainwaves to. Left and right hemispheric activity is also supposed to synchronise better, as both sides of your brain have to work together to interpret the difference in the two tones. Synchronised activity is associated with a trance-like state.
It doesn't really matter if you don't have the headphones on the correct ear, but don't play it through speakers positioned randomly. You may still hear the pulsing, but the sound is then mixing before it reaches your ears (a monaural beat) - so it's less effective in getting the 2 hemispheres to operate together at the intended frequencies.
Note that the promo stuff for Brain Sound Studio (www.transparentcorp.com) claims that it can produce effects that are as good using just monaural beats, so it doesn't matter where your speakers are. But I haven't tried it out yet - does anyone else have experience with this software?
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2004, 18:37:28 » |
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This worked SERIOUSLY well for me. It's like being on some kind of drug. I'm still listening to it now.
This gets a definate 10/10 from me.
Well done gnomad!
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 09:15:18 » |
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quote: Originally posted by anonymous57
This worked SERIOUSLY well for me. It's like being on some kind of drug. I'm still listening to it now.
Great! Not sure that you're supposed to feel like you're on drugs(!) - but nice to know that it produces some good effects for you [  ] Did you manage to exit/phase? or did you use it more as an energy raising exercise? If you can remember, at what points were you feeling various things? Thanks for the feedback, gnomad
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 16:51:09 » |
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gnomad (or anyone else) - I downloaded the file, I see all of it with RealPlayer, but only half of it with Windows Media Player... Any idea why? I would like to burn it to cd (which I can do with Windows Media Player). I'm not seeing the capability to do this on RealPlayer... Any suggestions? [  ]
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2004, 19:06:20 » |
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If you've extracted the mp3 from the full (68MB) zip file, then you've definitely got it all - maybe your version of Media Player just can't handle files that size? I'm not a fan of Media Player - Nero is the CD burning software I use, which can also burn the mp3 direct to an audio CD. I think WinAmp can too. You'd have to download the trial versions (or a crack - which obviously I wouldn't endorse). Otherwise, I'm sure there's a heap of other freeware stuff out there too. Good luck with it!
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2004, 19:37:01 » |
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I didn't actually try to phase/ap, just some chakra work, but I did enter F15 at some point, or get quite close to it.
I will have to put this on CD sometime, that should even better results.
I'm not sure exactly what time various things happened because I was in/near F15 for most of the time, but I think it fits in roughly with the times you described.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2004, 06:35:06 » |
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quote: Originally posted by gnomad
If you've extracted the mp3 from the full (93MB) zip file, then you've definitely got it all - maybe your version of Media Player just can't handle files that size?
I'm not a fan of Media Player - Nero is the CD burning software I use, which can also burn the mp3 direct to an audio CD. I think WinAmp can too. You'd have to download the trial versions (or a crack - which obviously I wouldn't endorse).
Otherwise, I'm sure there's a heap of other freeware stuff out there too. Good luck with it!
Thanks for the advice! I didn' know Nero could convert. [  ] I updated my realplayer to the latest version, and it had full burning capability (yay!). I will let you know my thoughts on this program in a day or two after trying it. [  ]
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