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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2007, 22:37:25 »

Well you have to understand the definition of the word machine = a mechanical or electrical device that performs or assists in the performance of human tasks, or is used for amusement (like a pinball machine).

ELECTRICAL, or MECHANICAL device to do human tasks.

We aren't machines, that's a fact.
But, we are auto-matic.
We are programmed to do exactly what evolution needs to progress and we do this auto-maticly.
We have no connection to any other entity like pc's connected to electricity.
We aren't connected to anything but we have an auto-matic system in our brains.

We are self-working independant entities, and we have a reason for existing.

But beside that, we also have absolutely no choice.
It may seem like that just like everything "seems" to us, an illusion.
We have no choice, because we aren't even here.
"Me" As a free entity, do not exist.
What I do and will do will be auto-maticly chosen depending on my brains subconscious / time / space
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2007, 22:20:22 »

I don't believe a man content with himself would believe in higher status or superiority. You'd expect him to lead toward the contrary, unity.

Does a baby smile in submission or because it's happy?

I'd agree that some people lose themselves trying to be somthing they are not. I don't agree with setting boundries to how the person must walk and smile or act toward others for them to be a self content person.

-AM

I use the terms "higher status" and "superior" very loosely, I don't mean "better than" in any way, just totally unnaffected by certain things (such as peoples opinions of you). A better description would be "unthreatened" or "not lower than you in status in anyway". I'm just using these words to convey the inner attitude of security and contentment.

What you said about unity is absoluetly true, understanding all of this has lead me to understand how we are all one, we are all the same person, each of us doing the exact same thing constantly despite what it looks like. No matter what anyone else ever does just know that if you were that person you would do precisely what they did, for exactly the same reasons in the very same way despite what you feel about what they did.

I'm not setting boundries about how people must walk and talk in order for them to be self confident, I'm pointing out what effects certain states of mind have on a persons mannerisms.

A baby smiles purely because he is happy, he has no idea of the concept of submission at this stage of his life, but his natural insticts will fill him in as he grows. Try going about your day without smiling at all, look people in the eye, never smile, but carry on acting like you. Watch how people react to you. They'll see you as being dominent, because you have shown no submission at all. (This is all subconscious).

ultimately the programs our brain picks up are learnt from our life experiences growing up. Its the world around us that shapes us when we're young. When we're older we can think more freely for oursevles but still most of those programs we picked up from our childhood still just run in the background automatically forming our personality.

in short... humans are not machines but when given the chance they will behave like one!!!

That is somewhat true, the environment will effect the "personality" of a child growing up, but children are the ones with the free-est thought, they haven't had time for all the illusions to become a part of who they are, the biggest being time.

A childs life is nothing but the "here" and "now" and what it contains, no timeline, no yesterday or tomorrow unless he brings it into the here and now inside his mind, something that he will do increasingly as he gets older until the here and now is diluted and weak. At the center of his here and now he will become a point on a timeline (ageline) in his own mind, with an amount of time "lived" and a vague amount of time left to live, an amount the the day gone and a certain amount of time remaining, every year along with the rest of the world he advances himself one step closer to old age along his internal illusion.

Why did time pass so slowly when we were young? As opposed to how fast it seems to pass now in comparison?

Because the only time that exists to a child is now, as adults we have in our heads the whole day, week maybe even month or year, we need to always know the time or we feel lost, we need to know that point where we are between waking up and going to bed.

Time becomes our biggest illusion and society our second. No child can comprehend the concept of money and working to earn it until hes lived around it long enough to pick it up.

What do people wish for their children, what do people look at in someone to see if their life is "wasted" or not? A good job that will earn them lot's of money. Let's face it, in our society the meaning of life is a Job and dependence on money, without this you die.

A few years after being born every single child is placed into school and they are forced against their will (if neseccary) to prepare for over a decade for the most important thing in life, a job.

But before any of this is understood and accepted as the way of the world a child intuitively exists free of these illusions (that are difficult to regain). Children are more in touch with the "spiritual planes" intuition and such. Why? Because they aren't as locked into illusion as adults are. A child is here, now, not a point on a timeline, not standing amidst a stream of time flowing into the past, he is right here right now living his life because he was born to live not to work.

Well you have to understand the definition of the word machine = a mechanical or electrical device that performs or assists in the performance of human tasks, or is used for amusement (like a pinball machine).

ELECTRICAL, or MECHANICAL device to do human tasks.

We aren't machines, that's a fact.
But, we are auto-matic.
We are programmed to do exactly what evolution needs to progress and we do this auto-maticly.
We have no connection to any other entity like pc's connected to electricity.
We aren't connected to anything but we have an auto-matic system in our brains.

We are self-working independant entities, and we have a reason for existing.

But beside that, we also have absolutely no choice.
It may seem like that just like everything "seems" to us, an illusion.
We have no choice, because we aren't even here.
"Me" As a free entity, do not exist.
What I do and will do will be auto-maticly chosen depending on my brains subconscious / time / space

Oh no no no! Recognising that is not the end of it, you do have choice if only you can uncover it, you do exist even though you are an illusion, illusions exist too! If our reality is an illusion and ourbodies are an illusion and our minds are an illusion then reality is an illusion meaning that the illusions surrounding us ARE REAL!

Reality being an illusion doesn't mean that our reality doesn't exist or is fake, reality is always 100% real no matter what illusions we create for ourselves to live in.

It's like being in one of those mazes that are made of mirrors. You can see yourself everywhere, you can't tell what is a real path and what isn't, you are lost trying to find your way out of the illusion, but you can't simply walk through the mirrors as though they aren't real, because they are real, even though they aren't.

Our illusions are made of "reality" making them real to us. When searching for answers regarding our illusions it's best to forget about reality and illusion, real and not real, simply become aware of nature, and what happens naturally of it's own accord with no conscious effort on anyones part. Because "real" and "not real" are two opposites within existence of duality which is also illusion. Things like "good"/"bad", me/you, light/dark, alive/dead.

What we define as real and not real are two opposites, they simply are not and can not be each other and is a fundamental fact of our consciousness in an existence of duality, and plays a large part in our illusions and their maintainence.

"Real" and "not real" are not actually two separate things or opposite things , it is just one thing that our existence divides into two opposites. We have "real" and "not real" but in reality (in triality) there is only "Real" because "not real" doesn't exist, it's not real, never was and never can be. But it consists of our two opposites together as one, and this is the same for every single two opposites in our existence.

Anyway I'm rambling, and the keys on my keyboard are melting, so best to say bye for now.

Bye
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2007, 07:44:03 »

Happiness is the true nature of the self. Perhaps we hide our smiles in times of war but I thought these forums were to promote times of love. Why would I hide a smile at any other time?

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2007, 10:48:14 »

My opinion about not having a choice doesn't change.
Because we do not have it.

I think you might have misinterpreted my meaning of illusion, what I meant to say was that illusion is an "idea".
And idea's are software IMO, meaning: Not real.
A CD is real, but a program in that cd isn't.
It's just a code.
Thinking you have free will, isn't even programmed, so nothing is saying to us to think we have free will. (sorry that I said that in my previous post).
We just hear it from others, freedom to think or to say whatever you want, has become a sort of right to freedom.
And we are teached wanting that freedom (politicaly), so that's why we may want to think we have free-will, probably.

I do think higher status or superiority play a huge role in evolution, so it would not be smart to deny we all have it.
It's a huge factor in revealing some truth in our perception of reality, or how we can achieve to be happy.

About why babies smile, I have no idea, it's amazing lol.
Good observation, but babies cry as often as they smile.
Maybe they don't know when they are supposed to be happy, so they use their instinctive software first, to determine when they should be happy and when they should be sad.

What are the factors for laughing?
As far as I know from melving helitzer (comedy writing secrets).
He said that superiority and solving a puzzle (which also gives superiority...) are the key factor for comedy.
So more or less being better than someone.
If someone acts dumb or stupid, babies laugh.
Like cartoons, where wile e coyote acts like a genious, but fails everytime. That's funny!

In babies all emotions are pure, not mixed by things they have learned on the way.
There was a book about this.
If you take a toy from a baby he will start to cry, but stop as soon as the toy is out of his view, because his idea of "possession", is temporary (just like monkeys).
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