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« on: February 18, 2009, 09:07:54 »

while i was in the shower the thought came to my mind.
the purpose of humanity is a very popular and unansvered question .
and my brain randomly generated an idea about this interesting topic that i will try to lay on this virtual paper as accurate as i can.
since it comes to me at very random times and i dont have pen and paper i try to retain as much of it in my head as i can.

so one of the popular beliefs(rumors,ideas,thoughts) that the purpose of humanity is to learn the truth(generally speaking)
by truth i assume they mean to understand the everything that is happening around us and inside us to become one with everything.
and that is the ultimate knowledge that will bring us to ballance, bring us closer to god, and such.
and that the truth is very hard to obain becaue if it was too easy then any idiot would know it and use it to harm himself or others...(but if he knew the thruth then it would be hard to call him an idiot)
it requires sometimes one sometimes many lifetimes to obtain it (the problem is we have a reset button) so we got about 100 years each time but we dont know what we here for.
so if the purpose(the truth the ultimate knowledge and understanding) is here, its been here forever, "before the time was time"Smiley
what is the purpose of our learning process.
the things that we go thru to learn it?
the truth is not the purpose its the cause of all this.   what is the reason for our life?
the goal is to learn and understand. but it seems artificial to me. it feels as if the actual life is more important than the final destination. why ?

id love to discuss this topic and get new ideas to process thru mymind. its interesting what comes out of it.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 16:42:53 »

He he, I have some of my best insights while in the shower.

Have you ever heard the term "the great cosmic joke"? For some, that's how they describe their realization of the truth: they realize everything they took to be real isn't real like they thought it was, and now "get it", like they see through the "joke" of life. It's not pointless, just not as it seems to be when you're in the middle of the experience.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 07:07:55 »

I wont claim to know what the goal is, maybe we are gods in training?  wink What I do know and believe is that the point of these lives we live seems to be for a person to have as rich an experience as possible. Just revel in the wonder of life and contribute to the wonder and experience of others. Share as much as possible. What seems artificial about experiencing and sharing?

We are actually rather primitive beings at this point, so just accept the notion that you cannot know the so called "ultimate truth" yet, because it would ruin the experience for yourself and everybody else.  cheesy

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 19:54:08 »

I had an epiphany of my own a while ago, and it was that the purpose of our existence here on this plane is to find a purpose for our existence. This is a manifestation of the ego.

Everyone has has their own purpose that their ego puts in front of them. From fast cars to young women, to millions of dollars to huge mansions. Or hollywood fame, if that's your thing.

We must learn to go completely beyond the mind and ego. We must look into the core of our being to find out what our existence as an individual spirit is. Going beyond the ego and mind are very hard things to do, but once it is done, it will be the best thing you have ever done.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 07:25:22 »

ok i think the first post was long and confusing enough i will try to compress it.
because i just had another moment of thruth after watching stargate continuum.
turns out the guy lived his life in 3 different parallel times
anyway.
if the soul is immortal, and is ONE with everything, why do we not have a slightest idea about what we are doing here.
why do we not remember our past lives.
i dont know.

but!! if you were say a throwout bearing in the clutch of your car, you would not have a clue as to whats outside your designated place of exisence, until you re worn out and replaced, then you go to junk yard or recycled into a brand spanking new part and might be a spring in some lady's bicycle seat(mmmm lol), or repaired and put back in your place.
and the only few things that know your reality as a whole would be( the creator, the manufacturer,the mechanic, and the service manual)
and before that you existed as part of a rock or a muntain, before the creator got to you.
on another level, the mountain is now becomes part of our human existence

so if we are just parts of the machine, i belive that it need a new mechanic, otherwise its gona go to junk yard, but the materials will most definitely be recycled...


another one for you to think about.
when you play a computer game, do you think that the game world is as real for its character as this world is real for us?

























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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 22:42:21 »

In the physical dimensions we learn about misery, pain, sorrow etc etc.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2010, 01:11:10 »

Dear tenshi_R,

The idea that the purpose of suffering is learning is a lie that is distributed by The System of reincarnation that wants to sustain itself and the Universe by keeping souls imprisoned in a perpetual cycle of life and death. The System is sustained by the release of energy from incarnates through suffering, a continual process of harnessing, a regulated state of misery the planets are kept at on purpose. The Universe and it's astral Systems are an artificial creation that is now running out of fuel as we are now witnessing the beginning of it's structural collapse.



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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 00:39:49 »

I like that
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 02:48:13 »

So there has been a lot of discussion about other realities or dimensions. Maybe we don't reincarnate into the same reality each time. Maybe the last reality I lived in looked much different than this one. Many physicists believe in parallel universes. Who knows for sure. What I do know is that I would really prefer to not reincarnate back to Earth. I'm ready for the next level.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 05:34:27 »

I constantly have this unshakeable feeling that reality is kind of a joke.

You know, like all of this is a dream like in waking life or we're just inhabiting the equivalent of an atom inside the leg of some bigger creature and all the galaxies we see are just other electrons or something.  So the one that we're all a part of is a leg.

Its a creepy feeling.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 12:56:22 »

that makes me think we're just a fractal of a larger fractal construct made up of other fractals just like us, which may be because I've become fractal crazy lately.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2010, 07:43:57 »

can it be that we(physical universe) are not the main but the part
the lower structure.
in the process of learning.
the process of our consciousness getting the experience and knowledge
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2010, 14:21:00 »

yeah I've thought that the purpose of f1oC - c1 is to provide a stable learning environment also. Its mostly accepted here that the physical is only the beginning and you will spend the shortest amount of time here, basically that the point of the physical is to prep you for the nonphysical. Just as f3 is to prep you for f4, all areas are a stepping stone into infinite.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 02:50:15 »

no i didnt mean is as a step in an individual development.

i meant we as individuals are a part of much biger thing (beeing,entity,wholeness etc).
and while individually developing, our experiences add up to beeing a part of something larger.
otherwise the individual existence for purpose of self development makes little or no sense at all because we die every 100 or so years and even if we are reborn we start from a clean sheet of paper every time.

if you think about the earth as a whole
and take one step down the evolutionary stairs, the animals dont have the ability to analyze or pass on the knowledge to the next generation besides the basic specific environment things. does their existence make sense?
if physical is so short lived.

each time we are born we are a certain combination os same atoms that are beeing reused over and over again.
it would only make sense that theres something beyond the lives that we live as individuals
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 19:06:11 »

i think it's a bit "egotistical" of us to assume this place is here so that we can learn and evolve. 

i think we have a bad habit as humans to assume that we are fantastic and the universe revolves around us.  i understand why we think that, as far as we know we are all there is.  but let's not get too full of ourselves. 
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 21:05:20 »

i think it's a bit "egotistical" of us to assume this place is here so that we can learn and evolve.
Why is that egotistical?
That's exactly why I think we're here...
Although, to give perspective... when I say "we", I mean all living beings in our universe, not just "humanity".

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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 21:10:01 »

you have to admit that humanity has a bad case of thinking our shiz don't stink.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 07:02:36 »

maybe its because we dont know what to think.

i mean to be honest, all of this is speculation.
without much proof besides gospels and bedtime stories.
theres no definite proof of anything its all based on belief.
even personal experience is very personal to a point that it cannot be verified or recorded...
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 08:48:54 »

I think that I favor a slight variation on the above theme. I think the purpose of the cosmos, if it indeed has one and it may not, is an exploration of every possible mode of being and existing- not really learning per se, because it doesn't happen in any linear sequence, and it doesn't inform a particular being to any end, but more of an "expression" of every type and way of being at all.

For instance, over here, this is what it is like to be a musical composer, and live through capturing your emotions in notes; over there, this is what it is like to be an abused horse, dreaming of fields full of rich grass, forced to pull a plough; over in this corner, this is what is like to be a mentally ill person, creating mental worlds out of line with the one you live in; there, you can feel what it is like to be a body of water, moved by inorganic forces; up in that roost, you can see what it is like to be the guy pulling the strings, creating different schemes of realities for others to experience.

I don't imagine it would have any final end in particular, but rather just be something complete in and of itself- a kind of catologue of every kind of existence and experience.

There are many that are fond of saying that the cosmos or God is infinite.... to me, that is what infinitude would need to imply- that there is a sort of record of every mode and method of existing and being, and that one could at times try and appreciate them all.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 14:50:20 »

the purpose of any life form is reproduction and multiplication. the summarians said that we have no meaning, just live and die, and because we are half breeds, there is no heaven for us just an empty void in the after life.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2010, 15:28:28 »

the purpose of any life form is reproduction and multiplication. the summarians said that we have no meaning, just live and die, and because we are half breeds, there is no heaven for us just an empty void in the after life.
What you speak about is the reason for how we (humans and other life forms in this physical reality) continue our physical existences and how we make it possible for more spiritual beings to come to this planet to do whatever it is we're here to do.

The question more pertains to *us* in our natural, spiritual forms... why do we choose to come to this rock, for what reason do we come here.

Why come to live physically on this planet when you can literally have whatever it is you want on a whim living in Focus 3? 

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2010, 15:56:14 »

I think it may be more about "realization" than learning. And learning takes place to come to that realization.
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2010, 04:21:32 »

so i have a tendency to try to find similarities between things, add them wtf is the word for that lol. to see the interaction between things.
for example FOLDING@home project that im sure people have heard of.
                     
what is Folding@Home?
Folding@Home is a project conducted by Stanford University. It's purpose is to investigate the folding and misfolding of proteins. While it may sound insignificant, this work is actually very important. The behaviour of proteins can cause diseases such as cancer, so studying them can provide valuble information towards prevention and cures.
Stanford's project revolves around computer generated simulations and analysis

it is based on simulating as many possibilities as we can in order to ge the result.

if you look at humans we are as well a combination of many things  in different time and different circumstances(environment families etc) and for that reason each one of us has different experiences that he accumulates during his life.
now animals accumulate experiences as well but not on the same level as we do.
and they dont pass it on to future generations as we do
sothere must be a reason for us to have the ability to think and analyze

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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2010, 05:03:37 »

How are we "half-breeds"?
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2010, 12:08:27 »

summarians believed that we were made half gods blood half earths. gods went to heaven, we go to limbo for eternity. they were also the first known civilization on earth.
http://www.sitchin.com/
mr sitchin was on of the first to transalat the text and write about it for the public.
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