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« on: October 21, 2014, 13:18:04 »

Hey guys,

I have been registered here for many years now but I haven't been active in the last year and a half because I relocated to Ukraine, Kyiv from Britain,Newcastle.


Nice to see you all again. I hope the forum is still active as it use to be.

Finally I would like to ask if anyone here is Ukrainian or living in Ukraine? Although I highly doubt it.

See you guys around the forum
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2014, 17:01:41 »

Welcome back bud.  Smiley

My Ukrainian geography is horrible.
Hopefully you're nowhere near the Eastern section of the Ukraine... it seems like a violent area right now.

Stay safe!  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2014, 17:21:53 »

Thanks Ryan,

Well my wife is from the eastern part bit the moment we are in Kiev which is far away from it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 18:35:00 »

Welcome back.  Smiley  I'm not from Ukraine but I have a friend who is from Kharkov and now is studying in Moscow.

I hear it's very beautiful over that way.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 20:13:23 »

Should you see Russian tank tread marks... kindly walk the other way for me.

Terrible that the old imperialisms haven't been outgrown.

Great to have you back!  wink
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 18:52:59 »

Should you see Russian tank tread marks... kindly walk the other way for me.

We might sooner be seeing American tank treads in Ukraine.  Tongue

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U.S. sends 'Ironhorse' tanks to NATO's nervous Baltic front line

(Reuters) - U.S. troops and tanks will deploy across the three Baltic states and Poland in the next two weeks on a mission designed to deliver an unmistakeable message of NATO resolve to Moscow.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/01/us-ukraine-crisis-baltic-usa-idUSKCN0HQ33720141001

NATO, of course, was originally set up to oppose the Soviet Union's influence in Europe when the USSR still occupied much of Eastern Europe after WW2.  Since the USSR has disbanded, NATO has began to gobble up more countries in Eastern Europe and move closer to Russia's border, while Russia has apparently assumed the target status that USSR once had.  Poland joined NATO in 1999, and the Baltic States in 2004.  Ukraine itself is NOT a NATO member.

NATO (American) generals state that they feel threatened by Russia moving its forces close to the border of Ukraine (a country which has just had a coup d'etat which was obviously sponsored by the American government -- just go back to the US diplomat who got into the news for saying "f__ the EU" earlier this year and look at the context of her conversation:  she was discussing manipulating Ukranian political candidacies).  I find it ironic that NATO feels threatened by Russia moving its forces, within its own borders, towards the border of a neighboring country which is experiencing internal violence and has already fired artillery across the border into Russia, supposedly by accident.  NATO has moved into the Baltic States and Poland, where the US is now sending tanks and jet fighters, and yet Russia is portrayed as the aggressor.




Just playing Devil's Advocate here.  And if Putin is the devil then I could make a pretty good advocate on his behalf, I believe.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 01:56:16 »

Ok, sorry to 4th for temporarily taking over his topic in advance.

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We might sooner be seeing American tank treads in Ukraine.

Very possible. The US is every bit the imperialist power Russia was and still is.

Putin has done good things for his people on some level, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have interests of acquiring the Ukraine. In fact, recently the prime minister of Poland came out and said that Putin at one point discussed splitting the land that now makes up the Ukraine between their two countries.

Yes the Russians and the Chinese get jumped on for things the Americans feel are their birthright to do for some reason. That doesn't mean Russia isn't an imperialist power with intentions to acquire territory it sees as ripe for the picking. Kiev is a very Russian city, and at one point a Russian capital- the Russians on some level consider it theirs still, but times have changed.

Mostly I just want the people of that country to stay safe and un-manipulated by any outside power, be it the US or Russia, as I want for all people.
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