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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2004, 23:21:37 »

A few questions:

1) I had a dream a few years ago which remains vivid in my memory. I had already experienced a long dream involving myself and friends held hostage by a sort of terrorist group. I then found myself in a sunken grotto surrounded by a post-industrial landscape. I looked up at the sky and saw the sun pass quickly overhead, flaming crimson and gold. After the sun set, the moon rose- except instead of one moon, there was a spinning disk of moons cycling through the lunar phases. This disk passed behind a tree, its light filtering strangely through the branches. When it emerged again it had become a giant blue whale swimming through the night sky, spreading aurora borealis in its wake. Is there any great significance to this dream?

2)Over the past several days I have been experiencing a strange tingly sensation in my back, like energetic movement but confined to one locale. It is not related to a physical stress or injury, or the skin or muscles of my back as far as I can tell. This sensation increases in intensity when I do energy and trance work, smoke marijuana, and when I fall asleep. Might this be a negative or parasitic entity attachment, or a blockage of some kind?

3)As of late I frequently experience a loud whining, buzzing, ringing, or shrieking sound when I attempt to meditate, when I smoke weed, and when I am falling asleep (and sometimes waking up). My first experience with this phenomenon was associated with a powerful projection attempt where I felt strong energy movement, saw several types of closed-eye visions, and heard various non-physical sounds. Since that time the sound can occur completely independently of any other stimulus. It can be quite overwhelming. I read recently of something similar happening when one's chi (or simply "energy") is forced into the head without proper energetic balance. Might this be my case, or could there be a physical cause? Keep in mind I don't experience this except when in an at least slightly relaxed or altered state.

I apologize for my wordiness, but these are pressing concerns to me. Thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2004, 18:45:47 »

I am going to do a channeling tonight there seems to be enough questions to do so. [Cheesy]
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2004, 19:28:41 »

One more question: What is your opinion of the forum member Oazaki and the information he relates?
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2004, 19:41:16 »

Here's a question: Can Michael come and remove this neg i have attached and will he? If not, why not?
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2004, 21:34:23 »

I have a couple questions for St. Michael.

1. Not that long ago, I was saying a prayer to ArchAngel Raphael to help someone.  Focused intensely on the prayer, I kept repeating it over and over.  After a while, my body started going into a series of convulsions, my thoughts seemed to throb and my aura began shifting.  Besides being rather surprised, I was a bit worried.  Although I recieved confirmation that my prayer helped, I'm worried that I did something wrong.  Are convulsions like that normal?  Was I focusing to hard or not relaxed enough?

2. Until one year ago I was a Jehovahs Witness, and believed that God would soon wipe away all the world's problems and make everything perfect.  Although I have moved on after learning of the corruption in that religion and finding a new path, my mother is still dealing with her own spiritual crises on a number of levels.  The thing she is still attached to the most, if I'm correct, is the belief that if God is loving he will initate Armageddon and wipe away the worlds problems.  I want to help her with this, but I don't know how to go about formulating a satisfying answer without bringing in mystical explanations that she would neither understand nor accept.  Anyway, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the idea of God fixing the the world permanently through a sudden upheaval.  How might I good about explaining these things to my mother?

3. Is it true that we have to elimanete our egos to attain enlightenment, or is it more accurate to state that we must transform and gain better control over them?  Also, does ego still function on the level of angelic beings?
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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2004, 23:14:51 »

SD: Arch angel Michael, can you answer any questions today?
M: Yes I can

SD:Peace and equality is always sought after, will we ever reach such eutopia?
M: Plain and simple, yes but such things don't last. In the previous lives of universes this has happened, and because mankind worked so hard for it they enjoyed it very much.


SD:  how many angels were thrown out of heaven?
M: I could say 30, but heaven is not what most of you think of it as, and the definition(s) of angel makes this hard to answer.

SD: Are you the same Arch Angel Micheal as mentioned in the bible?
M: Because the bible was meant for high preists such showings of information was very cryptic and hard for the common people to understand in the days it was made, I am the one mentioned in there just not in the literal sense most people take it for. You have to try to discern cryptic messeges from non cryptic messeges in the bible.

SD: Under which God do you serve?
M: I serve for the higher good, but the one who I look up to is the galaxy and then the universe itself, as both are alive in thier own right. God is very misunderstood because of the cryptic messeges portrayed.

SD: Is Jesus as in the New Testament real, I mean is there some truth that this person actually existed?
M: Jesus is a portrayal of the higher self of a man who had been born during a hard time in history. Everyone has such a higher self. Everyone atones for thier own sins by facing this higher aspect of self.

SD: i've got another one for him: do i have any angels watching over me? do i have any beings at all watching over me? (if he doesn't know immediatly, and i'm thinking he won't , please ask him to come on over and watch me for a bit and get his reply later.)
thank you .
M: you do not need this one to ask for you, ask me yourself by way of prayer, if it is a good prayer I will listen. If it's intentions are weak it will not reach me. If you need nothing out of me I will not answer. However know that I am always there if you do need me and you can borrow my sword.

SD: Colin Q1)
M: That dream was showing you how I or another angel can enter your dreams and give you cryptic meanings. I was the sun BTW.

SD: Colin Q2:
M: It is difficult in a mediation or a channeling to get help with this sort of thing. Ask for guidaince directly or search for the answer yourself, but it is more of a blockage than anything of energy, even if a neg is involved take care of the blockage and then the neg will have a hard time in this case.

SD: Colin Q3:
M: Weed leaves you open to entities, The blockage you described earlier does not help either. Take care of both of these, if this does not solve after a month then take further looking into and action.

SD:One more question: What is your opinion of the forum member Oazaki and the information he relates?
M: I cannot see what this one is seeing. You must form your own opinion based upon his actions, and try not to let your own experiences get in the way of your judgement.

SD: Here's a question: Can Michael come and remove this neg i have attached and will he? If not, why not?
M: I will not do so for you, and I have awaited for such a question. Take care of it yourself, as you are strong, if you cannot do so I will aid you but you will do most of the work, and if you need to ask to borrow my sword. I will lend it to you if you need it.

SD: LOB1)
M: the convulsions come from being the son of raphael (more on this later) and the fact that you were so intent that raphael had to borrow some of your chakra and Qi to help. You were attempting to channel Rapheal through yourself. This simply cannot be done.

SD: LOB2)
M: Part of the problem is that you are her son, and mother's feel bigger than the child and must protect always. You must try to explain to her that god is too great to understand completely and that truthfully that is why we are here, because he is so great that intervention on his part is impossible at the level your souls live at.

SD: LOB3)
M: Ego is a very misunderstood concept. There will always be will, and because there will always be will there will always be conflict, and since there will always be conflict there will always be "ego." Since there will always be ego there will always be levels.

More later, hopefully there will be more Q's too.

SD:  If he is now the Arch-Angel of Mars what has happened to the Arch-Angel Zamael?
M: Zameal was never mars, Zamaiel corresponds partially with earth and partially with the moon. He actually does not have a corresponding body at all, but access to him by means of thinking in terms of the physical sense is the above.
LOB(is at my house now so asked me to ask this): why do all these occult sources say you are the angel of the sun?
M: they are only thinking in terms of the small part of me that is the sun, not on the level I am talking about myself at now.
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2004, 04:09:18 »

Hey, don't forget to ask what kind of things we can expect to happen from the poleshift and what kind of stuff has happened already : )
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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2004, 11:11:50 »

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Hey, don't forget to ask what kind of things we can expect to happen from the poleshift and what kind of stuff has happened already : )



Slipped my mind sorry, will get to that [Wink]
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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2004, 12:36:56 »

Hello SpectralDragon and Arch Angel Micheal,

I have questions about something I've been experiencing lately. Sometimes when I meditate when I wake up my left arm is in the process of waving around in the air. These aren't my astral arms, I mean my physical arm decides to go waving around all by itself. When I wake up the arm plops back on to me.

A wonderful chaneller friend of mine said that I'm learning to experience and control zero-gravity and the reason it stops is that there's a part of me that's not letting go of 3D physics.

There have also been many times when I was meditating and my head decided to turn to the right and then back to the center, and back a few times without me controlling it.

So my questions are:
1.) Am I entering into zero gravity?

2.) Am I in the process of learning to fly?

3.) Is this related to my head turning?

4.) I request your assistance in learning to overcome my resistance to accept this, I intend to embrace reality as it really is and let go of 3rd dimensional perceptions.

Thank you very much!
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2004, 14:21:33 »

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Thanks Spectral Dragon for taking your time and your efforts and those of our "friend" Arch-Angel Michael.



Just noticed the quotes around the "friend" part. Is this up for debate shaman? I am willing to debate as long as peope stay reasonable. [Smiley]
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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2004, 03:18:35 »

how sure are you, SpectralDragon, that you are actually mediating the Angel of God named Michael? the being you are mediating doesn't seem to really understand certain things very well, and seems to offer explainations which seem rather off.

i do not wish to seem like i'm just starting an argument, or am just trying to bash you or what you are doing, but it seems to me that whatever being you are in communication with likely isn't the Angel of God, Michael.

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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2004, 10:43:09 »

I am open for debate on this, but please read my first post. There is a level of uncertainty about this that is different than a channeling. You must understand that I have to relate these things to him, and that also I am talking to an aspect of michael, not michael himself Wink I would like to know where you think "micheal" is off? this would help me understand your POV immensely.


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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2004, 22:13:37 »

I have one. Is the approaching ice planet Nibiru? (what everone else is called Sedna).

Don't forget my other question about pole shift changes Wink

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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2004, 22:26:28 »

reply has been edited... edited again ^_^;

well, for instance he refers to the bible as though it were a holy book and the way in which he talks about it almost seems to say he thinks that it is The holy book of the hebrews, whereas he probably should have referred to The Scriptures as even the apostles did. such thinking seems to make him seem post-christianic where as the archangel michael is definately pre-christainic in origins and would likely only see christianity as a new step for God's plan (which it is).

as well as that, the bible (the "old testament" combined with the "new testament") was originally meant as a collection of apostolic writings which all christians could read, and it was only after the church was formed and after a few corrupt ideals and actions spread that the bible came to be reseved for the priests of the christian church only (which has also since changed, thankfully). the Scriptures (aka "the old testament") of the israelites were also meant for all people to be able to read from (though it was common practice for high priests and ordained teachers to teach from them, anyone could go up and read from them if they so desired).

next: the bible barely mentions anyone being kicked out of heaven, and if i recall correctly it only mentions in passing that one being was kicked out of heaven. however, the book of enoch presents the full tale of the event that occured which saw angels cast out of heaven, and that book mentions that several legions of angels were cast down to earth (EDIT: still not done researching it, but i've gotten a number at least ^_^ i was wrong about the "legions", it is two hundred, including 19 "chiefs of tens" Book of Enoch, chapter 6 beginning in verse 6 through to the end of the chapter. and it explains further in chapter 10 that those who have defiled themselves with women were bound in the valleys of the earth, starting in verse 10). and while that's a case of "he-said, she-said" where neither can be proven by merely their own sources, it does show that there is at least a slight dispute between sources of information (which immediatly calls into question both, so of course it is always possible that the book of enoch is wrong).

next: when he says he serves for the higher good, it comes to mind that an angel of God would rather say that he serves I Am (or use some other name for the God which is mentioned in the scriptures). his explainations seem to be rather contrary to how the scriptures describe God (as a being, as opposed to a general force which merely pervades)

there are a few other things as well, but as i'm kinda busy tonight (and i've not fully flesched out the questions in my own mind) i'll have to post them later ^_^.

well, one other thing: if he truly is an Angel, why would it tire you out to mediate him?

~kakkarot


i've found that there seems to be three different translations of the book of enoch, so i'll provide a link to three sites (one for each, including the one posted in the first edit) so that people can go over the differences themselves. plus one has notes in with the text ^_^ (i should also note, that it seems the second link below has different chapter/verse placements than the other two. for instance the names of the chiefs of ten are in chapter 7 verse 9 in the last link as opposed to the 6:7-8 in the first and second link. also, note the names are different depending on the version you are reading. that is explained partly in the notes in the third link)
http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_1.HTM
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/enoch/1watchers/watchers.htm
http://www.firefromheaven.net/2000/enoch.html
as well, i'll post a couple of links below which are supplemental materials
http://echoes.devin.com/watchers/ <-- has many notes about the book which may help with studying it
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01602a.htm <-- an excerpt from an online site which claims it is the catholic encyclopedia (i can't verify whether it is authentic/official though) which gives some explaination about the book of enoch
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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2004, 02:38:07 »

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well, one other thing: if he truly is an Angel, why would it tire you out to mediate him?

~kakkarot


Nothing personal, but I really am kind of stunned about the lack of knowledge of channeling (or mediating, sorry) here. Higher entities are higher energies than we are. Trying to have contact with one (whether by channeling and may I assume the same with mediating) is like a 60W lightbulb trying to allow 1000W of electricity flow through without exploding. It's very tiring and very stressful and taxing mentally, emotionally, and physically, that's why people have to take care of themselves when they do this type of thing. It has nothing to do with the polarity of the entity.  

From the questions I am reading through these threads, they seem to revolve more around misperceptions of channeling/mediation and how higher density beings "think" and "perceive" (major communication breakdown) from their point of view. If there isn't a common understanding, there are going to be more questions of intent, when the problem has nothing to do with whether or not the entity is a neg or positive being but with bad information on how channeling (sorry in this case mediation) works.

Is an Eskimo an evil entity because he/she has more words for the concept of "snow" than we do? I come from the US, but the way the map of the world is laid out I guess I really should say I come from the North American Continent otherwise I am lying, is that it? And higher entities can't come down and do all the communicating for us, otherwise we wouldn't do any ourselves. We have to think for ourselves, learn to communicate ourselves, and make an effort to see a different perspective ourselves. If it was constantly done for us, we would never do it ourselves.

Wouldn't it make sense to lay some kind of common foundation everyone can work from instead of having all this misunderstanding?  

Some of this I am laying at the feet of the channelers because they are supposed to be the bridge, the go between, the teacher (although I am also questioning some of what I am reading in a few of the threads).
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« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2004, 02:54:00 »

i understand how that would be so for a normal spirit, but an angel of God (especially Michael) should easily be able to even take human form and talk to a person, and should also easily be able to take the "cost" of mediating/channeling upon themself without the mediator/channelor having to even touch upon their reserves of energy (another question you can ask him about syko [Smiley]).

i recently heard that somewhere in the bible it talks about a single angel of God destroying 185 THOUSAND (185, 000) soldiers in a single night and i'm still trying to validate this but if it is true then surely a being that powerful would have no problem at all communicating with a human without letting the human get burned out (and note that from examples given in the bible, angels are in control of their own power, so it's not like a 1000 W bulb going through a 60 W outlet because the angel can just simply sublimate his own power [Smiley]). of course even if that specific story is false, there are others in the bible which show angels to be beings of immense power but also who are in control of their power.

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« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2004, 03:35:43 »

Lets not forget, this guy is only talking to an aspect of Michael (supposedly), not the entire guy at once.  The full michael, if he really wanted to, I'm sure could come down in shining light and all and tell him all.  I'm sure michael has things to do though and so lets him converse with a small part of him.  Another reason why michael lets struggle for communication... maybe it's the price for communicating with him.  If he really wants it, he'll go through the effort it takes to reach him.  God himself doesn't make the way to him easy either, even in the bible.  As for hardships in talking, I dunno.  That's more SD's domain, so I doubt I could explain that.
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« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2004, 03:42:33 »

well i disagree with that blackstream. from my understanding and experience, if you seek God He will reveal Himself to you. it may (almost certainly) be confusing, but it will happen [Smiley].

but perhaps i'm wrong when it comes to other people ^_^

also, i've found that angel of the lord killing 185000 people (a tremendous event like the mass slaughter of an army and it only gets a single verse, lol):
2 kings 19:35
35 And that night the angel of the LORD went forth, and slew a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians; and when men arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies.

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« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2004, 10:59:52 »

Kakkarot, I would read the part where micheal talks about trying to make people understand rather than just telling them of the knowledge. That's the whole of the reason I believe he does the things he does here.

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well, for instance he refers to the bible as though it were a holy book and the way in which he talks about it almost seems to say he thinks that it is The holy book of the hebrews, whereas he probably should have referred to The Scriptures as even the apostles did. such thinking seems to make him seem post-christianic where as the archangel michael is definately pre-christainic in origins and would likely only see christianity as a new step for God's plan (which it is).


I will ask him about this, but from what I hear from him he does not think of christianity as the way it is practiced today a good thing. I could be wrong on that of course I have not asked him directly. You are assuming the bible was originally meant for the masses. No, it was not I will also have him comment on this.
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next: when he says he serves for the higher good, it comes to mind that an angel of God would rather say that he serves I Am (or use some other name for the God which is mentioned in the scriptures). his explainations seem to be rather contrary to how the scriptures describe God (as a being, as opposed to a general force which merely pervades)


We can't completely understand the archangels, so saying god has a name is like saying you know him on a personal level even though he is so much higher than a being we cannot understand? I am sorry I don't see what you are saying here.

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well, one other thing: if he truly is an Angel, why would it tire you out to mediate him?

~kakkarot



I like the explanation that andromach gave when it concerns CHANNELING, but this is not a channeling this is a mediation, what's going on is slightly different. Made a comment in my first post about what would happen if I were to try an actuall channeling with such a high level being. I would literally get fried. In a mediation you are standing right next to this, so it's like standing next to a tornado. You have to fight to not get blown away. He is making this much easier by only throwing a small part of himself at me. [|)]

Kakkorot this is not, I repeat, NOT a normal angel. This being makes up part of the very framework of the solar system. Think about that in terms of how well he can control his power.

Kakkarot from my understanding god IS the universe, so exactly how do you go about talking to the universe?

Definitely doing another mediation tonight guys so get the questions ready if you want them answered[Wink]
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2004, 01:17:34 »

ok well we definately disagree on things and don't see certain things from anywhere close to the same perspective, which isn't a bad thing [Wink]. (for instance i see God as being a being, not just the universe, but a personality with a normally-localized presence)

but, i now understand better how you are thinking of all this, so i'll shut up now [|)].

thank you for taking the time to discuss this [Smiley]. (but i'll still read his responses Smiley)

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« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2004, 01:48:30 »

CHANNELING SESSION IN PROGRESS.

SD: Can you answer some questions today?
M: Yes, but only a few.
SD: all right Wink

SD: Can you answer any pole shift Questions today?
M: Well, I want to do a special session on just pole shift and the "war"
SD: all right then

SD: *relates thread about the bible references*
M: The bible was originally a book written in a monestary, and is of teachings passed down by word of mouth since the dawn of man, a lot of those teaching non-christian in nature actually. It is not the holy book people make it out to be, though it does hold a lot of power and sway.

SD:  well i disagree with that blackstream. from my understanding and experience, if you seek God He will reveal Himself to you. it may (almost certainly) be confusing, but it will happen .
M: God will reveal himself only when you come to understand certain things, though what those certain things are I cannot relate as you must find these things for yourself. They are quite within reach though.

SD:also, i've found that angel of the lord killing 185000 people (a tremendous event like the mass slaughter of an army and it only gets a single verse, lol):
2 kings 19:35
35 And that night the angel of the LORD went forth, and slew a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians; and when men arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies.
M: Taking life is not pleasant in the least, but must be done. It is necessary for the survival of true good. In order to have good you must have evil, though the event above is not what people are thinking it is. Some Archdemons actually work under god as well.


M: there have not been many questions, I would sincerely like to see more so that there can be more of an understanding between the physical humans and the spirits. [Smiley] Please do ponder on these things and remember to take channelings and mediations with a bit of caution.
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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2004, 06:57:42 »

Michael: You say the bible was originally written in a monastery. Are you referring to what Christians call the "Old Testament"? And was it written all at once? By the same person?

Also, you say that God reveals himself to those that possess certain knowledge. You cannot reveal that knowledge directly, but say it is quite within reach. Is there one path (e.g. Zen Buddhism, Judaism, Hermetecism, Scientology [Wink]) or practice (meditation, prayer, ritual magic, etc.) to gain this knowledge? Or to put it another way, what do you generally recommend we do to gain knowledge and prepare ourselves for the revelation of God?
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« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2004, 09:29:50 »

My questions today are more about the existance of God and our relationship to him/her etc.

1) Micheal, do you actually speak directly to God?

2) Are humans able to speak directly to God? Whether be through prayer, thoughts etc???

3) You say God is the universe.  Is there more than one universe?  Do you define the universe in the same way as mainstream science does?

4) Is the universe (God) omniscient and omnipowerful?

5) Were you always an Archangel?  Why were you created? Do you even know?

6) Exactly what is your extent of knowledge?

7) Also, SD says that he is mediating only a part of you.  Does this limit any of your abilities to answer our questions?
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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2004, 18:25:14 »

I have not disapeared, will get to this tonight [Wink]
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« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2004, 21:11:40 »



Good! Please remember my question [Smiley]
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