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« Reply #175 on: May 14, 2004, 03:26:35 »

Cube...I'm not sure what you are trying to ummmmm...start here, but that link you gave, if you noticed... all of his posts have been deleted, BECAUSE of his name.  He and I have been in communication, dealing with the situation and he has no problem abiding by the rules. [^] I for one can't wait for him to start posting again, under another Nic, he was quite funny! [Cheesy]  

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why some have taken offense to our way of moderating.... can it be EGO?? it's almost like you guys have a negative reaction to any kind of regulation.  

Mayhaps Spectal Dragon's website as no such regulations?

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« Reply #176 on: May 14, 2004, 04:01:43 »

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Cube...I'm not sure what you are trying to ummmmm...start here, but that link you gave, if you noticed... all of his posts have been deleted, BECAUSE of his name.  He and I have been in communication, dealing with the situation and he has no problem abiding by the rules. [^] I for one can't wait for him to start posting again, under another Nic, he was quite funny! [Cheesy]  

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why some have taken offense to our way of moderating.... can it be EGO?? it's almost like you guys have a negative reaction to any kind of regulation.  

Mayhaps Spectal Dragon's website as no such regulations?

Nay



I would like to point out that nobody in this thread is free from the evils of Ego, this includes you, me, James, and Nick. Please let the matter drop, you have already done your worst.

Also, if you bash my site does that give me free reign to bash this forum? I would think not so please refrain from further such actions in the future.

If this continues the work I have done here will mean very little. Please, if you wish to talk of this matter take it somewhere else. This thread is for mediation purposes, not for people bashing each other over the head with hammers.

That said, on to the real reason this thread is here.

MEDIATION IN PROGRESS

SD: Hello Michael,


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SD: #1: Do you know guides with the names Napa, Sara and Seth?
M: many have names similair to those, but I tend to refer to them by thier atmosphere, The ones you seem to be speaking of is a trio that almost always works together.

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Interesting. Are these guys trustworthy? They seem to play down some important stuff, imo.
M: That is for you to test. It is not wise to take advice from a spirit you don't have direct contact with in such matters, however I do suggest testing them heavily. If they are guides they will understand the reasons for such tests.

SD: My quote was probably cryptic (language difficulties ...). They say, that the "full soul" (incarnated person + "higher-self" of the person = full soul of the person) makes somekind of "life plan" the incarnated person must live through. This plan consists of the experiences the incarnated person experiences while incarnated. This, of course, goes for every person, they say.

So, if a person has, for example, the act of killing another person in his plan, the person who will be killed had, of course, the "act" of dying in his plan. Both persons agreed on that before incarnating.

Is that true?
M: This is not quite how the idea is supposed to work. A specific learning experience is set up. However this set up is infinitely more complicated than the above. Firstly the soul goes through everything that it has gone through and from that "decides" what it might need to experience to gain better understanding. A situation is set up where the parameters of such are met, however a good soul will not usually act in evil ways or ways that go against it's own nature. A soul set's up the basics of your life, and it is your life, but it is not in full control.

SD: I've problems understanding what you're telling here. You say the consciousness and the soul are two different things (at least you seperate them here). So, the soul itself doesn't have a consciousness?

That would mean the soul as the "guide" of the "consciousness" (the incarnated person?) doesn't have free will (how does someone make his own choices if he isn't conscious?). So that would mean, there is some higher force which "guides" or "controls" the soul.

So this means the concept of free will (freedom of choice) is a big joke, imo.

Who controls or "guides" everything, then? God?
M: You are misunderstanding the basis around the concept. Openining your mind might help. Here is anothe way of looking at it. If the soul chooses to go the path of a scolar in a lifetime, then the soul thus chose, thus it invoked free will. Your soul is you, your consciousness is you. They are the same being, but separate just as your kidney is seperate from your brain.

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SD: #5: What are the limitations of 'psychic abilities' and/or magick?
M: Hard question to answer. It is limited by the limitations of the very universe, and inside of those limitations it is limitless.

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You say it is limited by the limits of the (very) universe. This would mean that the limitations of our "universe", the "physical plane" (hope you understand what I mean) would be the physical laws, correct?

"Inside of those limitations it is limitless" looks like a paradox to me, no matter how I see it. Either there are limits, or there are not.
M: no (that's all he said I would like to add that you might want to consider things outside the realm of your own thought pattern here. You seem to be dead set on a few things. This will help you understand him better[Smiley])

SD: 1.First of all, why would this work be hazy in the astral? What is so different about Sitchin's work from Castaneda's that you find it to be hazy?
M: I do not find it to be hazy, it is hazy before me. A lot of said works are dependant on how many people read them and how much faith are put into them, and also how much actuall truth there are in them.

SD: 2. If Sitchin is accurate, would it be fair to say that, for example, the images of the egyptian gods, who were commonly depicted as part human, part animal, originated from the "rejects" of the Annunaki's attempts and genetics?
M: this seems to be a very symbolic, however there have been experimentations on other planets of such. Humankind is not the only race that explores science.

SD: This is something that Stuart Wilde has mentioned as well which I've never understood. It's the idea that you can actually enter other realms by moving to your right at a certain angle. What is this phenomenon that allows plane shifting by physical movement?
M: this is actually a concept that, because of human perception, is very hard to grasp. He is moving through several planes at once, and right and left have a different meaning than physical right and left.

SD: In several places (such as the above quote) Thenos talks about moving in curves and not in angles. Can you explain what is the use of doing so and what is the underlying reason why it makes a difference?
M: curving movement is a movement that goes around certain barriers. For example instead of building a Dam on the river you re-route part of the river and build one in a specific place. This avoids trouble. By using circular movement throug space time you can overcome certain barriers. If you can project try projecting back in time, but don't just project back in time. At the same time project to a different location. This is curcular movement.

SD: Are there really magic words like that that actually give people power?
M: if they are believed and the essence behind the words thus noted then yes. The way it works is quite complicated, but in practice relatively easy. It simply has to be done in the right way.

SD: Thenos claims to know a way to cheat death by meditating north and south:

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald13.html

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List ye, O man, whilst I give the secret so that
ye, too, shalt taste not of change.
One hour each day shalt thou lie
with thine head pointed to the
place of the positive pole (north).
One hour each day shalt thy head be
pointed to the place of the negative pole (south).
Whilst thy head is placed to the northward,
hold thou thy consciousness from the chest to the head.

And when thy head is placed southward,
hold thou thy thought from chest to the feet.
Hold thou in balance once in each seven,
and thy balance will retain the whole of its strength.
Aye, if thou be old, thy body will freshen
and thy strength will become as a youth's.
This is the secret known to the Masters
by which they hold off the fingers of Death.
Neglect not to follow the path I have shown,
for when thou hast passed beyond years
to a hundred to neglect
it will mean the coming of Death.

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Is there truth to that technique?
M: yes but it doesn't grant everlasting life. It prolongs life.

SD: as for this question: 5.) This is a question for SD not related to Thenos, on http://www.gatesofmysticism.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6 you write "-A knowledge of how energy feels is a must."

Can you tell us more about what the energy feels like?


I have some questions on the details of answers given earlier:
SD: I would like to note that this technique was posted at this site too, and that this is a mediation thread for micheal. If you have a question like this it actually might be better to PM me. However I will answer it here [Smiley] The psionic shield is a shield of energy and intention, so naturally you have to know what energy feels like. On that same site and forum there is another post that shows how energy feels. http://www.gatesofmysticism.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23

SD: 6.) You said that the reptiles mentioned by Thenos are not the reptiles that David Icke talks about. However, is there any truth to Icke's claim that there is a 4th dimensional groups of reptiles influencing on the planet?
M: no

SD: 7.) "No, fourth dimmension is a dimmension outside the bounds of the physical." Does that mean that telepathy, auric vision, telekinesis, and other psychic abilities are completely 3rd dimensional and have nothing to do with the 4th dimension?
M: what I meant by outside the bounds is that it is not actually physically in the third dimmension, however it does interact with it. All parts of the universe interact with each other. They are interlaced but not the same thing. Psionics has little to do with other dimmensions, however psychics does.

SD: 9.) You defined humor as "relativity and suprise", can all emotions be built up from a few fundamental concepts like that?
M: The real question might be is relativity and surprise really as simple as you are thinking it is([Wink]-SD)

SD: 10.) "there is infinite energy but not in all places. The universe is more complicated than that" Why would a spirit go somewhere that there is not infinite energy? I can sort of understand why they might want to do that for the sake of experiencing lack and therefore becoming more mature, but a lot of the negs running around don't seem to be interested in spiritual growth.
M: most what you refer to as "negs" is likely "programs" they do what they are made to do.

SD: 11.) " you are a part of him. Do you not feel that you would like to keep yourself in good health and faith? there is more to this relationship than that and it's more complicated"

Please tell us the details of the complicated relationship, I can't think of a more important thing to learn about. You make analogies like we're cells in God's body and also state that God feels no particular desire to speed up our progress since He's got loads of patience. I find that incredibly depressing because I don't really care about any individual cell I posess. If God doesn't really care either then I have to ask why bother?
M: because of mankinds need and want to find out the answer to this question for themselves I can't go too far into this, however the analogy was the simplest one I can make. There are definite differences. God is a big universe. You are a small person with a very big soul. No matter what level a soul is at, they must find other souls for company and companionship on levels deeper than most people know. God is looking for people to come with him, just as you wish people to go with you on your journey. Since you are a part of god then this further deepens this interest by god.

SD: 12.) On the topic of no personal communication with God, I have a hard time accepting the idea that there is anything impossible for God, especially something as trivial as communicating with a spirit. If everything is thought, then that means anything could be possible, so why couldn't God create thoughts of communcation to any spirit, whether they're a lowly human or an Arch Angel?
M: God doesn't communicate. God throws around understanding. It's a rather complex idea that people are not used to hearing, however you are correct in that humans are not outside the bounds of understanding god. They simply need more time to do so. A "talk" with god is more so an understanding between two souls.

SD: 13.) "Get access to the garden of Eden" Can you give us a literal definition of what is the Garden of Eden? It is such a metaphorical idea that it's too vague to be useful.
M: the name garden of eden you will find is very powerfull in the etheric. Any more than this I will not say about it. (SD- he said earlier that the etheric realm is where the garden is)

SD: 14.) Does monatomic gold have health uses for humans?
M: not in the fact that it is what it is no.

SD: 15.) If some animal species form group souls, why would individual members compete and fight with each other over food? If lions posess a group soul, couldn't they work in perfect synchrony and have one lion watching the prey feeding information to other lions who actually make the kill?
M: A group soul does not mean complete unity. A group soul means a kind of animal is inherently one soul but not of one consciousness.

SD: 16.) I got the impression from some of your descriptions of God that the God you mean is the universal-level creator, but not the creator of all universes. Is that what you mean? If so, is there a singular God that is the true total composition of all universes, and everything?
M: I have not seen everything. It is impossible for a single being to see everything. To try to see everything is a never ending journey because creation is not stopping. I don't know if there is a "god of all creation or not" I simply know there is a being that chose to be created and thus created what you are and what I am because of that.
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« Reply #177 on: May 14, 2004, 04:11:13 »

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I would like to point out that nobody in this thread is free from the evils of Ego, this includes you, me, James, and Nick. Please let the matter drop, you have already done your worst.
 
Why is it that you continue to think that our moderating is 'doing our worst'?

 
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Also, if you bash my site does that give me free reign to bash this forum? I would think not so please refrain from further such actions in the future.
When in the world did I "BASH" your website?  I was telling the people whom are like minded, to go there..how in, what is all holy, did I bash your site?? You should pay MEEEEEEEE for talking about it.

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« Reply #178 on: May 14, 2004, 05:04:43 »

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Originally posted by Nay

quote:
I would like to point out that nobody in this thread is free from the evils of Ego, this includes you, me, James, and Nick. Please let the matter drop, you have already done your worst.
 
Why is it that you continue to think that our moderating is 'doing our worst'?

 
quote:
Also, if you bash my site does that give me free reign to bash this forum? I would think not so please refrain from further such actions in the future.
When in the world did I "BASH" your website?  I was telling the people whom are like minded, to go there..how in, what is all holy, did I bash your site?? You should pay MEEEEEEEE for talking about it.

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Nay, the way you said it made me think that you were trying to bash it. Not in an outright way but in a circular way. I am sorry if that is not the case. I will pay more attention next time.
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« Reply #179 on: May 14, 2004, 06:17:00 »

I'm not trying to start something or fuel the argument, but if people are going to argue about such a silly thing, can they please do it via PM?
I come to this thread for the interest of SD's channelings, and now it seems all i am coming here for is a silly argument. This is directed towards both sides of the argument by the way.
So please, for the rest of us, can you people either continue it elsewhere or cease altogether. I'm sure your arguing is not helping the situation anyway.
Thanks.
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« Reply #180 on: May 14, 2004, 09:29:54 »

quote:
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I'm not trying to start something or fuel the argument, but if people are going to argue about such a silly thing, can they please do it via PM?
I come to this thread for the interest of SD's channelings, and now it seems all i am coming here for is a silly argument. This is directed towards both sides of the argument by the way.
So please, for the rest of us, can you people either continue it elsewhere or cease altogether. I'm sure your arguing is not helping the situation anyway.
Thanks.



Yeah I am already way past the point of being tired of arguing anyway. Oh, and please note that I did mediate your answers ES in an above post.
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« Reply #181 on: May 14, 2004, 09:57:50 »

Argh! How did i miss that? [Tongue] Thanks once again [Cheesy]
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« Reply #182 on: May 14, 2004, 12:20:38 »

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Argh! How did i miss that? [Tongue] Thanks once again [Cheesy]



No problem. I am going to do another mediation on saturday so get some more questions ready everyone Smiley
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« Reply #183 on: May 14, 2004, 14:34:02 »

Here are some questions:

1) Is the finnish national epic (Kalevala) a historic story?

2) Was Väinämöinen a real historic person?

3) What does it mean when he(Väinämöinen) said that he would return when the time is right?

4) What does it mean when some people say that light will come from the north(pohjola/Finland)?

5) Do some/all nations have certain purpose in time?

6) Do some/all nations have national soul?

7) How well can you deliver answers past SpectralDragon's egos?
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« Reply #184 on: May 14, 2004, 16:29:53 »

1.) On magic words, "if they are believed and the essence behind the words thus noted then yes." Do the actual words make any difference or is it all in the intent and belief?


2.) On meditating north and south, what is the root cause that makes this prolong life?


3.) Why is it that David Icke has been able to find so many people who tell him they've seen shapeshifting reptiles? Maybe those people are trying to discredit him and thereby discredit his research on 'secret' societies?


4.) How accurate is David Icke's research on Freemasonry and its influence on politics?


5.) "Psionics has little to do with other dimmensions, however psychics does." I don't have a solid understanding of what psionics is, I looked in several dictionaries and couldn't find it. Could you give us definition for it?


6.) "The real question might be is relativity and surprise really as simple as you are thinking it is (wink -SD)" Yes, I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than I am thinking, but still it seems like I could make a computer program that can relate concepts and be able to detect when a new idea would result in surprise. However I don't know how I would get it to detect humor. My question is, is it even possible to write a program that simulates humor?


7.) "most what you refer to as "negs" is likely "programs" they do what they are made to do." I can beleive that, but I don't understand why any entity, program or not, would go where there's not enough energy to go around?


8.) "God is looking for people to come with him" What is the real criteria that God uses to decide if He wants a person to come with Him? Is it the ability to love, having lots of life experience, being creative, or something else?


9.) On monatomc gold, "not in the fact that it is what it is no." I'm not sure what you mean, does that mean that it does have some special use I'm not aware of?


10.) Do you have awareness of other universes? If so, how are they different from ours?


11.) About peak oil, my last question about it got left out from the answers. Should I repeat the question or do you not want to answer questions about it?


12.) Where is Thenos now and what's he doing?


13.) Stuart Wilde talks about fighting a 'Ghoul War'. Is such a war really going on?


14.) What senses exist that humans have no awareness of yet?


15.) Is there an Arch Angel named Metatron, and if so what do you think of him?


16.) Does candlelight help at all to attract positive spirits?


17.) When I project I rarely last more than a minute, is there something I can do to keep stay out longer without blacking out?


18.)  "A talk with god is more so an understanding between two souls." When a person prays does the prayer actually make it all the way to God, or are things like that handled by angels?


19.) You mentioned that God cannot speak to humans nor fix things inside His body, what are some other types of things God can't do?



Thank you SD and Micheal.
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« Reply #185 on: May 14, 2004, 17:06:25 »

Thank you SpectralDragon,

Hello "Michael",

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Originally posted by SpectralDragon
SD: Interesting. Are these guys trustworthy? They seem to play down some important stuff, imo.

M: That is for you to test. It is not wise to take advice from a spirit you don't have direct contact with in such matters, however I do suggest testing them heavily. If they are guides they will understand the reasons for such tests.



Well, they are not my guides, but I wanted to know anyway ...

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SD: Is that true?

M: This is not quite how the idea is supposed to work. A specific learning experience is set up. However this set up is infinitely more complicated than the above. Firstly the soul goes through everything that it has gone through and from that "decides" what it might need to experience to gain better understanding. A situation is set up where the parameters of such are met, however a good soul will not usually act in evil ways or ways that go against it's own nature. A soul set's up the basics of your life, and it is your life, but it is not in full control.



So the "basics of life", as you call it, are what? Below you say the "soul" can choose to be a scholar, for example. But how is this goal met, because the world is changing all the time. I don't see a way how a goal like this could be met, if not all the "souls" or "incarnations" in the area where someone incarnates agree to that.

So is it correct if I assume the "soul" wants to experience specific stuff, but doesn't necessarily get what it wanted, because of the "free will" the incarnated person has?

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Who controls or "guides" everything, then? God?

M: You are misunderstanding the basis around the concept. Openining your mind might help. Here is anothe way of looking at it. If the soul chooses to go the path of a scolar in a lifetime, then the soul thus chose, thus it invoked free will. Your soul is you, your consciousness is you. They are the same being, but separate just as your kidney is seperate from your brain.



Of course I misunderstand it, you don't express yourself understandable. I used the information you gave and reasoned, if that means I have quite a closed mind, than that's the way it is.

What is consciousness then, if it isn't used to choose as well? I think your definition of consciousness might clear it up, because it sems you have another definition than I have.

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SD: You say it is limited by the limits of the (very) universe. This would mean that the limitations of our "universe", the "physical plane" (hope you understand what I mean) would be the physical laws, correct?

"Inside of those limitations it is limitless" looks like a paradox to me, no matter how I see it. Either there are limits, or there are not.

M: no



No to what? To the paradox, or to the physical laws? To both?

quote:

(that's all he said I would like to add that you might want to consider things outside the realm of your own thought pattern here. You seem to be dead set on a few things. This will help you understand him better[Smiley])



Dead set? I'm sorry, but that was obvisouly a contradiction. "It is limited by the universe, inside of these limitations it is limitless", so, if there aren't any limitations he could have said so in the beginning. But this way it is just contradictory. The same was with the "good, evil" question.

As "Michael" didn't want to answer the rest of my questions, it seems to me that "Michael" has his problems with criticism.

So, when he stops sulking he might want to answer the rest of my questions, as well as the new ones. But I understand if he doesn't like me anymore [Wink]


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« Reply #186 on: May 14, 2004, 17:23:35 »

This is only my 2 cents and not necessarily relevant to others, however I would appreciate it if people wouldn't go so much into "arguing" with Michael, because it doesn't seem to me that getting dogged down in arguments is the reason these mediations are being done. It seems to me that the mediations being done are a scarce resource, and I think there are important topics which we haven't yet covered that would provide us with more understanding than arguing about particular topics does. I do not wish to offend anyone, I just offer this opinion for everyone's consideration.
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« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2004, 19:27:34 »

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Thank you SpectralDragon,

Hello "Michael",

So, when he stops sulking he might want to answer the rest of my questions, as well as the new ones. But I understand if he doesn't like me anymore [Wink]


Stephan



Veccollo, Micheal stopped answering your questions when he saw they were full of dogma, but he and me have a lot of questions, and I felt also that going around in circles with yours was not only wasting my time, but because of the effort involved in mediating him draining me as well. You are not taking his posts in the correct light. Remember It was micheal himself who said to take his answers with a grain of salt. The reason for this is that you will never be able to truly tell if he is who he claims to be. Why? Because you are not the one doing the mediation.
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« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2004, 20:17:56 »

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Veccollo, Micheal stopped answering your questions when he saw they were full of dogma, but he and me have a lot of questions, and I felt also that going around in circles with yours was not only wasting my time, but because of the effort involved in mediating him draining me as well.



As I said, he didn't make himself clear, so I started reasoning. If that is somekind of dogma for him, well, to be honest, that is his problem, not mine.

quote:

You are not taking his posts in the correct light. Remember It was micheal himself who said to take his answers with a grain of salt.



I can't take it in the correct light if he doesn't make clear statements. That's why I started reasoning. It was not to offend him, it was to clear things up for me. I said he should correct me if I'm wrong.

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The reason for this is that you will never be able to truly tell if he is who he claims to be. Why? Because you are not the one doing the mediation.



Well, I never wanted to know if he is the "Michael" or not, because it doesn't interest me who he is. The only thing I was interested in were the answers this being would give, not to prove him wrong or right.

Well, if you and Michael don't want to answer my question, that's fine with me.

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« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2004, 02:41:54 »

quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SpectralDragon
Veccollo, Micheal stopped answering your questions when he saw they were full of dogma, but he and me have a lot of questions, and I felt also that going around in circles with yours was not only wasting my time, but because of the effort involved in mediating him draining me as well.



As I said, he didn't make himself clear, so I started reasoning. If that is somekind of dogma for him, well, to be honest, that is his problem, not mine.

quote:

You are not taking his posts in the correct light. Remember It was micheal himself who said to take his answers with a grain of salt.



I can't take it in the correct light if he doesn't make clear statements. That's why I started reasoning. It was not to offend him, it was to clear things up for me. I said he should correct me if I'm wrong.

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The reason for this is that you will never be able to truly tell if he is who he claims to be. Why? Because you are not the one doing the mediation.



Well, I never wanted to know if he is the "Michael" or not, because it doesn't interest me who he is. The only thing I was interested in were the answers this being would give, not to prove him wrong or right.

Well, if you and Michael don't want to answer my question, that's fine with me.

Stephan



Well, there is a reason he is being vague. He doesn't want to just give you knowledge, he want's people to gain more understanding.

I will try again for you, but I can't guarantee anything, sorry Sad
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« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2004, 11:09:36 »

Question 1 Do you believe blasphemy is a sin?  Is it unforgivable?  I ask since I wonder how if we are a part of God how blaspheming would work?

question 2 You believe in the concept of Karma?  Would you be able to tell me how one attains karma? Whether it is good or bad? And how to get more of and also less of it.

Question 3 Who records Karma?

Question 4 I've noticed you get information from the Akashic records.  What are they?  What is the limitations of the knowledge held within the akashic records?

Question 5 You access both akashic records and human collective consciousness to attain knowledge to answer questions.  Wouldn't the human collective be very limited to what the collective believes and not true knowledge?  Though it is very hard to say what is true.


Veccolo, I may have an idea of what is happening.

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On the topic of no personal communication with God, I have a hard time accepting the idea that there is anything impossible for God, especially something as trivial as communicating with a spirit. If everything is thought, then that means anything could be possible, so why couldn't God create thoughts of communcation to any spirit, whether they're a lowly human or an Arch Angel?


Here you state everything is thought, but I'm not sure if that is true, and you may expecting Micheal to answer within that context?

With limitless within limitations, maybe you can think of two discreet (whole numbers) for example 1 and 2.  Think of these as boundaries.  Now write all the numbers in between 1 and 2.  It is limitless.  Well, thats one way I would think of it.

When I first started asking questions I didn't like having such cryptic answers either, but it is designed to make you think and give a new perspective on things, not give away the answer.  It seems to be the way Micheal works.  I'm very careful in choosing any answers to elaborate on since Micheal wants you to think about the answer first.

For example, I may want to ask more about "paragons" spoken of earlier but its something for me to explore first, I think Micheal merely gave me an idea of where to start looking.  However, I still look at these things with skepticism and a grain of salt.  Its good just to gain a new perspective even if you can't agree. [Smiley]
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« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2004, 12:20:56 »

"With limitless within limitations, maybe you can think of two discreet (whole numbers) for example 1 and 2. Think of these as boundaries. Now write all the numbers in between 1 and 2. It is limitless. Well, thats one way I would think of it."

Well yes, I thought about that too, but the numbers between 1 and 2 (which is just a theoretical mathematical concept) wouldn't stand for the limit I asked for. The numbers inbetween might stand for the different things one might do, but they are still < 2.

Maybe he didn't understand what I meant with limit? He often uses the same terms, but he seem to have another definition of those words. This leads to "communication problems" in my opinion. Well, never mind.

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« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2004, 14:05:29 »

Taalnar,

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On the topic of no personal communication with God, I have a hard time accepting the idea that there is anything impossible for God, especially something as trivial as communicating with a spirit. If everything is thought, then that means anything could be possible, so why couldn't God create thoughts of communcation to any spirit, whether they're a lowly human or an Arch Angel?



That was actually one of my questions, I find that it's useful to explain my point of view when asking a question so that it's easier for the person answering the question to answer in terms I can relate to, or if there is a basic assumption I have wrong then it's easier to see it and correct it.
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« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2004, 15:25:02 »

I have a few questions again...

(1) What is the role of the brain? This is related to: what is the difference between soul and consciousness? Is the brain the carrier of the consciousness, which dies with the brain after a lifetime is over? If so, do memories accumulated in the brain (consciousness) get transferred to the soul at the time of death, or is this transfer and sharing of information already performed on an ongoing basis as we live? What are the interrelations between consciousness and the soul?

(2) Does the brain actually do any processing or store any memories, or is it just a gateway between the physical world and the spiritual where our soul and/or consciousness reside? Does consciousness equal brain, or is the brain just a gateway to the consciousness, which exists independently of the brain?

(3) The thing we are aware of, is it the brain/consciousness, or is it the soul? I'm guessing it is the brain/consciousness. But what then is the thing that we are aware of when astral projecting? Are we at that time still operating out of the consciousness, or out of the soul? If out of the consciousness, does each body (physical, etheric, astral) have a separate consciousness, or is it the same one in all cases? How does the brain fit in with that - what is its role during an astral projection? Is it a crucial component of it, or does it just sit there and idle until we return?

(4) If we are normally aware of only the brain/consciousness, how do we interact with the soul, and how can we become aware of the soul?

(5) When doing magic, energy is harnessed to achieve a particular result. After a successful application of magic, the results are effected without us truly knowing how they were brought about. But certainly in order for these changes to occur there must be knowledge somewhere which tells the energy how exactly to effect the desired changes. Since we are not consciously aware of the manner in which the changes are obtained, where is this knowledge stored? Who performs the low-level information processing that is required for magic to work and bring results into effect?

(6) There are people who appear to be born as though without a consciousness. Their brain appears to be paralyzed in that they don't learn to walk, or to talk, and they pretty much do nothing other than vegetate. Communication is restricted to the simplest forms. Doctors often don't really know what is wrong; the brain simply does not appear to be working properly. What is the spiritual situation with these persons? May it be they are empty bodies lacking an incarnated soul? Or is there truly some physical damage, and the soul is being trapped inadvertently until the next incarnation?

(7) Should a thoroughly incapacitated person as described above be taken care of throughout its lifetime, as is normally done, until it dies of natural causes? Or are we by nurturing it just prolonging the suffering of a trapped soul? Are the souls which are trapped like that suffering?

(Cool How is it that different people have different levels of intelligence (narrowly referring to logical intelligence, or broadly also to other types)? Do the intellectual properties of a person have any relation to the properties of the soul which is incarnated in that person, in the sense that the qualities and experience of the soul are reflected in the person's intellectual capacities? Or is this unrelated, in the sense that an advanced soul can still consciously decide to incarnate in a mentally-retarded individual?

(9) Is there incarnation across species - e.g. a human incarnating in the next lifetime as a cow or a dolphin, or a frog incarnating in one of its future lifetimes as a human? Or are we humans some special class of soul, which works differently than others? If so, is there cross-incarnation in other species - e.g. a cat incarnating in its next lifetime as a dog?

Thanks SpectralDragon - I hope the answers to these questions will be of interest to other readers as well. [Smiley] I very much look forward to the mediation.
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« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2004, 21:23:20 »

Hello
I have a couple questions about something i've been looking into recently..  the antikythera mechanism.

(1)What civilization/peoples/beings built the mechanism?  
(2)It is suggested that it is 2,000 years old.  Is that assumption correct?
(3)Scientists are mostly unsure exactly what it does, but they are pretty sure it has to do with calculating the movements of stars and planets... is there more to this mechanism or is that the exact purpose of it?
(4)Are there more mechanisms or machines similar to the antikythera mechanism or machines built by the same civilization that remains undiscovered/hidden?
(5)would a working re-creation of such a mechanism be valuable to us, or has it become obselete?

I have some other questions on other subjects, but will wait as it looks like SD has alot to ask about already  =)

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« Reply #195 on: May 16, 2004, 05:38:05 »

Spectral Dragon's computer has a virus, and he wont be able to get to the questions until it is deleted and his internet is working properly again.  Until then, please do not post any more questions.  He will get to the current ones as soon as he is ready.
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« Reply #196 on: May 16, 2004, 07:03:21 »

K, things seem to work now. I got rid of 2 viruses and I think things are all right, but it's 4AM here and need to sleep after checking a few small things. Will get to these ASAP.

What's funny is I got 2 people's questions, and the internet froze. Couldn't save the info though, sorry.

EDIT: I am going to get to these questions after I get some sleep. Don't be afraid to ask more, as I am going to do them in sections instead of all at once.
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« Reply #197 on: May 17, 2004, 10:16:21 »

Ok I've got a couple more questions.
Continued...

Question 6 The bible mentions the Holy Spirit.  Can you please explain who the Holy Spirit is and why the Holy Spirit receives so much reverence and is included as part of the trinity?

Question 7 The bible also mentions the Nephilim.  Can you please tell me who/what they are?

Question 8  What do you think of the person Ronna Herman at www.ronnastar.com ?

Thanks Spectal. [Smiley]


Veccolo and Cubes, Yeah, your explanations seem fair enough to me. [Smiley]
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« Reply #198 on: May 18, 2004, 04:05:50 »

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SD: 1) Is the finnish national epic (Kalevala) a historic story?
M: Yes it is, however some legends are not how they happen in reality as the story that has been passed from mouth to mouth becomes larger and larger, though sometimes even the truth is more than the legend, as is the case here. Some rumors that have been added to such legends are usually easy to point out.

SD: 2) Was Väinämöinen a real historic person?
M: Yes and no, he was based around several people.

SD: 3) What does it mean when he(Väinämöinen) said that he would return when the time is right?
M: he is speaking of reincarnating in this world again when it's reached it's peak in (spirutuality, though I think that's a bad word for what he was trying to convey-SD)

SD: 4) What does it mean when some people say that light will come from the north(pohjola/Finland)?
M: 1)This is a refference to a war. Finland was to fight from the north in light attacks or gorrilla warfare. They would use the reflections of the sun off the snow as an advantage. 2) An old legend of a god.

SD: 5) Do some/all nations have certain purpose in time?
M: the purpose of a nation is to bring about certain kinds of peoples together to protect against other people. There is no real "higher purpose" to this though.

SD: 6) Do some/all nations have national soul?
M: yes, because they are all of likeness.

SD: 7) How well can you deliver answers past SpectralDragon's egos?
M: I can view the accasiac and understand it better than he can and I have answered questions in which he did not know what was being asked. An example is your first through third questions.

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SD: 1.) On magic words, "if they are believed and the essence behind the words thus noted then yes." Do the actual words make any difference or is it all in the intent and belief?
M: The words make a difference because they tell of the intent, however the essence behind the words are the real power. You can say one word and mean something different each time you say it.

SD: 2.) On meditating north and south, what is the root cause that makes this prolong life?
M: Earths electromagnetic energy and spirit.

SD: 3.) Why is it that David Icke has been able to find so many people who tell him they've seen shapeshifting reptiles? Maybe those people are trying to discredit him and thereby discredit his research on 'secret' societies?
M: There are many people who will believe they saw one thing. Inluence does not have to be strong to convince people of what they saw. If someone does not know exactly what it is they were seeing and they see an explanation that hints that it was what they were seeing they will go for it easily.

SD: 4.) How accurate is David Icke's research on Freemasonry and its influence on politics?
M: There is a lot of accuracy to it however it does not always apply. Each nation is different and each ruler is different.

SD: 5.) "Psionics has little to do with other dimmensions, however psychics does." I don't have a solid understanding of what psionics is, I looked in several dictionaries and couldn't find it. Could you give us definition for it?
M: Psionics is controlling energies that is outside the body with the mind.

SD: 6.) "The real question might be is relativity and surprise really as simple as you are thinking it is (wink -SD)" Yes, I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than I am thinking, but still it seems like I could make a computer program that can relate concepts and be able to detect when a new idea would result in surprise. However I don't know how I would get it to detect humor. My question is, is it even possible to write a program that simulates humor?
M: it is possible however you would have to make it so intricate that it would almost have it's own soul after a few years. There are some shortcuts of perception of how humans react that will somewhat work but not to the extent you want it to.

SD: 7.) "most what you refer to as "negs" is likely "programs" they do what they are made to do." I can beleive that, but I don't understand why any entity, program or not, would go where there's not enough energy to go around?
M: This was already explained, I will go into further Detail. Energy is everywhere, however Humans cannot use actual fire inside themselves or they will burn. Negs cannot use actuall fire either. They need specific types, sometimes situations make these types hard to find.

SD: 8.) "God is looking for people to come with him" What is the real criteria that God uses to decide if He wants a person to come with Him? Is it the ability to love, having lots of life experience, being creative, or something else?
M: If you made it to that stage then god will gladly welcome you.

SD: 9.) On monatomc gold, "not in the fact that it is what it is no." I'm not sure what you mean, does that mean that it does have some special use I'm not aware of?
M: No. The statement refers to gold can be used for that purpose, but there is no special thing about gold itself for such purpose.

SD: 10.) Do you have awareness of other universes? If so, how are they different from ours?
M: yes I have awareness of other universes. It is too dificult to explain with words how it is different.

SD: 11.) About peak oil, my last question about it got left out from the answers. Should I repeat the question or do you not want to answer questions about it?
SD: Micheal doesn't seem to like answering mundane questions such as that sorry. Remember his purpose is to create understanding between Physical and non-physical.

SD: 12.) Where is Thenos now and what's he doing?
M: In another universe living another life.

SD: 13.) Stuart Wilde talks about fighting a 'Ghoul War'. Is such a war really going on?
M: not a war so much but something like that is happening.

SD: 14.) What senses exist that humans have no awareness of yet?
M: this question is asking me to tell of something the human consciousness wants to explore on it's own.

SD: 15.) Is there an Arch Angel named Metatron, and if so what do you think of him?
M: yes there is. Metatron is an archangel very far away from earth unlike myself. He is usually associated with pluto though his association is very fluid in the physical.

SD: 16.) Does candlelight help at all to attract positive spirits?
M: if used correctly yes.

SD: 17.) When I project I rarely last more than a minute, is there something I can do to keep stay out longer without blacking out?
M: Build up your natural energies and practice other mystic practices.

SD: 18.) "A talk with god is more so an understanding between two souls." When a person prays does the prayer actually make it all the way to God, or are things like that handled by angels?
M: it is usually handled by angels.

SD: 19.) You mentioned that God cannot speak to humans nor fix things inside His body, what are some other types of things God can't do?
M: This is a difficult question to answer and needs to be explored on it's own.

SD: Of course I misunderstand it, you don't express yourself understandable. I used the information you gave and reasoned, if that means I have quite a closed mind, than that's the way it is.

What is consciousness then, if it isn't used to choose as well? I think your definition of consciousness might clear it up, because it sems you have another definition than I have.
M: My only comment about how you are approching this is that you seem to be very large-headed about things. This closes your mind to a lot. If you have read this post all the way through and tried to understand the reasons I am here you would know why I don't answer some of your questions.
(SD: he isn't mad, BTW. He simply has his reasons)

SD: Dead set? I'm sorry, but that was obvisouly a contradiction. "It is limited by the universe, inside of these limitations it is limitless", so, if there aren't any limitations he could have said so in the beginning. But this way it is just contradictory. The same was with the "good, evil" question.
SD: I can see why you are confused here. Read this
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« Reply #199 on: May 18, 2004, 04:34:31 »

Whoo hoo!

Thanks SD! [8D]
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