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Author Topic: Good vs. Evil: the saga continues...  (Read 1649 times)
kakkarot
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« on: November 26, 2003, 15:20:16 »

according to the bible, God controls hell... just like He controls heaven. so there really is no "vs" between them [|)].

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 19:55:14 »

I think evil is a construction of something. It is built, not already made. That's why you hear of evil empires. It's not any particular person or thing, it's a grouping of more than more idea which forms a negative enity. The negative enity should be the warning system. If something is not constructed correctly, warning signs ring out. It's for this reason I don't believe something that may be seen a certain way is not necessarily bad or good. It's more for understanding or perceiving, and then to make the corrections as needed. Many people are quite accepting of things constructed wrong in many aspects of private life and social life (complacency & compliance). The discerning person sees a problem and takes steps to change it, whether it be on a personal level or a society level. A blind alley in this however is when a person places blame on a particular person or group. I have never seen this ever solve anything. It only delays or obscures the root of the problem. Evil is bad. Everyone's perception of what this varies. There are no bad people, only people who have allowed themselves to be led down a blind alley. When a person gets trapped anything can happen. A good start is observing anything immediately around one for signs of control issues and trappings. Release from this will cause a reaction and a change.
Another observation I've seen are that the wrong people are oftentime in the wrong positions for change to occur. This however is a catch 22, if the right things get changed, the right people are in right place. I don't believe dark enities are bad. I think their in place for a purpose just as good enities are. I believe individuals contribute unknowingly and knowingly to good or evil. Relationships a person chooses says only something bad in general by the result it causes. Bad symbiotics relationships are combination factors gone wrong.Could the cycle of the appearance of evil begin here? Evil is only the warning. Bad news is the result.To be able to distinguish between good in progress is also a discerning factor. Who judges this?

About the Heaven vs Hell thing? I believe the individual builds his/her's private hell. How this pans out in the end with God, who know but God. I believe a person cannot see a heaven unless they learn how to build a heaven of their own while on earth. How this pans out is also up to God.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 19:55:14 »

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2003, 01:33:48 »

I should have been more clear.

I'm not interested in what religious texts say, I want to know what you guys have found out for yourselves in your journeys.  What have you seen in your visions, maybe you don't even think there is a war.  But it is important to me to get feedback.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2003, 09:38:20 »

So far, I found out that Good and Bad can be subjective...

For some people, eating meat is bad; but eating plants (alive) is ok.
I even heard one "vegetarian" monk say that eating fish was ok because fish had less consciousness than meat; so it would not be too bad for his (the monk's) karma!!! [xx(]

An ugly wolf eating a cute little deer is bad.  The cute little deer eating an ugly mouse is ok.

Controversial one:
Human eating animals/plants is ok.  Animals/entities eating/feeding on humans is bad/evil.

Forests fires are bad.  Forests fires are good (to a certain extent) because it allows plants/trees to "recycle".

Death is bad.  Death is good (to a certain extent) because it prevents the plannet to get overpopulated; and maybe because 1 death = 1 birth...

Mistakes are bad.  Mistakes are good because they push you to learn, progress.

Money is good.  Money is bad.

Scientific/skeptic mind is good.  Scientific/skeptic mind is bad.

Faith is good.  Faith is bad.

Hum... enough nonsens!  [Tongue][Wink]
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2003, 15:24:01 »

quote:
Originally posted by Coffee

I should have been more clear.
 I want to know what you guys have found out for yourselves in your journeys.  What have you seen in your visions, maybe you don't even think there is a war.  But it is important to me to get feedback.



It's static on the tv screen....specks of muptiple shades of grey, black, and white. evil/good depends on perception as does heaven/hell.

Part of me wants there to be demons, negs, and vampires to fight. Then again maybe the real enemies of humanity are gods, angels, and lightworker type entities. I don't beleive that one can have light without shadow, or shadow without light.

Imaine a wounded animal, they hide in darkness to avoid predators. There is strength and comfort in darkness.

A great deal of heaven/hell depends on what you expect to find, and what is your souls true desire. within saints there are monsters, within monsters there are saints. Thats too simplistic, its varying frequencies of static on the tv screen.

I travelled on night and met a lovely girl, she was a vampire. I asked if she wanted to bite me now, she laughed and told me I was taking all the fun out of it. Indeed this illusion we like to call "reality" is a game of pretend desigbned to keep immortal entities (us) from being bored.

I watched two beings wrapped in light beating on a demon, I looked into its eyes and saw incredible wisdom and beauty, the two light beings had eyes expressing an almost insane joy in hurting the helpless demon. I formed fire in my hands and destroyed the light beings, the demon thanked me and went on its way.

I have summoned a vampire and seen its darkness that was pure evil, I have visited my angel and she was full of beauty and love, she showed me the levels overlapping each other and levels above and below the one we are on, I also saw tunnels and doors connecting all those dimensions and planes. I cannot remember it exactly, the image was Nth dimensional.

infinite vibrations, infinite entities, infinite situations, infinite interactions of the above three.

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2003, 15:52:44 »

Coffee,
You have me interested. You have a sense of urgency? Could you explain more?

quote:
maybe you don't even think there is a war

I've come to see battles of energy, if that is what you mean.
I do believe there is a spiritual war taking place, but only through sensing.


Nagual, interesting take on it. I see money as energy. How it's used and perceived is important.

Xander, very interesting. You have given me something to think about.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2003, 13:48:57 »

Here is a link to what I received in my email.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/995357.asp

Here is an example to me of an enity or body with too much money, too much influence, and too much time on hands.

Is this really proper for a person's personal interests be honored in this way. Whether or not this "serves" the tourist business or not(wrong IMO), should someone deceased be exploited for tourist's dollars?
Is this good use of government or court's time and expense, not to mention the taxpayers interests?

Here is my quote from an earlier post:
 
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Another observation I've seen are that the wrong people are oftentime in the wrong positions for change to occur. This however is a catch 22, if the right things get changed, the right people are in right place.


See how far off base things are! Who is running the assylum?



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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2003, 02:06:57 »

I'm curious about what you guys think about the "heaven vs. hell" thing.  

I have a lot of opinions about it from my visions but what do you think?

I don't think Earth will ever be overpowered by demons

I do think the war has been going on for a long time, in some other place and it's not necessarily good vs. evil, the lines are not so clearly drawn.

I don't think that any creature was created perfectly in the beginning, but I think all of the angels and holy creatures have fallen out of their holy status, and joined sides in the war.

I wonder sometimes if "to live is to wage war"

I look forward to the criticism as well as agreement, so long you guys dish out some honest opinions, but beware lousy spellers! (j/k)Smiley
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