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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2003, 21:05:33 »

Babylonkiller,

Yes I'm afraid you are correct - I am wrong - I don't actually have a certificate to say I'm not mad. [Tongue]

Speaking of mad though, when you come off sounding like a crazed religious fanatic out on some kind of holy crusade, do you really expect us to want to listen to this kind of visciousness and hatred?

I find this rather odd from you. Most of your other posts so far speak of a peaceful and helpful intelligence. This outburst seems to be out of character. Or is this you true colours on display? I hope not!

Why am I wrong? I'm happy to be shown why if I am.

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2003, 06:07:47 »

james s:
"when you come off sounding like a crazed religious fanatic out on some kind of holy crusade, do you really expect us to want to listen to this kind of visciousness and hatred?"
to clear it up for anyone, i am not religeous; i believe in creation.
Creation as in our universe. Nowhere have i stated belief in any
diety or god, therfore i am on no holy crusade.
i speak in sudden ferocity because i want to let Fuzzwig (and his
"supposed reptilian contacts, or guides" that i want to destroy
them becuase i asume they wont go down without force, i also know
from experience and clairvoyance that at least 1 reptile type race
is responisble for the mind enslavement of the masses by way of
mind manipulating technology.
Reptilian=enslavement
i desire freewill.
i have said it before, there are no pleadians. they are plejarans.
anyone who states otherwise obviously is misinformed. for those who
state having contact with them, if tey really did than they would
have known that the plejarans are what they are called. They have not
been to earth since 1996.

about you being wrong, i didnt finish the sentence. you are wrong
because you have no plaedian guide. you are simply lying. if you want
me to bring proof that you are lying, well i just told you above.
It is not i who am stuck on some religeous trip, i dont belive in
anything other than creation. You on the other hand follow "guides"
who are either your imagination or malevolant beings who want to
manipulate you and thus messing with your free will.
i too once believed in canneling and guides, but careful thought and
logic has shown me that these are no more than the games of 3rd
dimension beings still held back by having such egos, and thoughts
of self gratification. wether it be by way of finding somebody to
agree with your unique belief to satisfy your ego or you daydream about being a celebrity, to satisfy yet again your ego.
My advice to you is to visit WWW.billymeier.com
thats a good place to start.
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2003, 08:00:57 »

I hope no one will mind if I barge in..

BabylonKiller, what do you want? Do we not have the free will to explore things and believe what we will without you taking our beliefs as your personal responsibility to oversee?

 
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wether it be by way of finding somebody to
agree with your unique belief to satisfy your ego or you daydream about being a celebrity, to satisfy yet again your ego.



It seems to me that you have more will to convince us of your beliefs than the Reptilians have to convince us of theirs. Fuzziwig's channeling of the Reptilians doesn't seem very agressive, but maybe I missed a post or two where the Reps lashed out and threatened to kill everyone. Now that would be a deprivation of our free will.

I wouldn't be too hasty at criticizing whatever Fuzzy may be channeling for saying we shouldn't eat meat. Not to put down Fuzzy, but channelings can be inaccurate sometimes as a number of problems could arise between whoever may be communicating. Even Nancy from Zetatalk has made some infamous inaccurate channelings, and I'm sure most of us know about those. From my understanding of Reptilians and beings in general that we can channel information from, those beings' knowledge can vary as much as our own and chances are they aren't all-knowing (unless of course you're channeling US intelligence [Smiley]). So, even supposing these things aren't figments of our imaginations, of course we should think twice before doing anything a channelled being tells us or suggests.

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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2003, 09:15:00 »

Hi Babylonkiller,

I'm replying to a couple of posts of your in different topics, so I'm sorry if this is a little lengthy. I hope this doesn't bore the socks off you. [Smiley]

It seems though that you are already 100% convinced that what you believe is the absolute truth, despite the fact you have so far only substantiated of your theories by the beliefs of only 1 person - Billy Meier - who, rightly or wrongly, has been discredited in just the same way as you are trying to discredit those who do not follow his theories.

Now I don't know the man personally, so I have no possible way of knowing  just how honest or reliable he is. I'm not going to try to argue this point though, as it will only lead to circular arguments. I'm not interested - it's a waste of time and energy. Also, unlike Billy Meier or Barbara Marciniak, I'm not concerned about whether I'll make any money out of this, so I really don't care. Can't honestly say that I'm interested in listening to either of them, theirs is not my path.

Yes I am familiar with the term Plejaran. I have seen references to this being their true name. I'm not interested in disputing this either. I'm aware that they come from the region of the Pleiades star cluster, otherwise known as the Seven Sisters, or also known as (and this one tickled me)- Subaru. We could call them Subarus instead. [Wink] Might have a bit of a marketing fight on our hands there though! Whatever the case, I don't believe they, whoever these aliens are, are as upset about all this nomenclature as you are.

As for it being provable that the Pleiadian stars are too young to support life - sorry, not provable. Astronomers are able to tell if a star has any orbiting bodies by either the "wobble" method, where the gravitational pull of a planet will show a wobble in the star's movement, or the "wink" method, where a planet causes a drop in the stars measured output by passing in front of it. Beyond that, as Hubble does not have the resolution to detect distant planets (maybey its replacement will, I don't know), and they cannot be properly detected by radio telescopes, we really don't know what might exist in the way of planets in this region of space. The only thing that was dispoved regarding the Pleiades stars was the existance of the Photon belt or Manasic Ring that was said to be a source of life in the region.

I would like to tell you a little bit about what I do know regarding my guide, the one you have so vehemently denounced as being some kind of delusion. Truth be told, several months ago I might have been inclined to agree with you here. I didn't trust any of this. There's a certain set of events that happened that shook my scepticism.

Firstly, I don't treat my guide as some kind of god. I believe that there is a sentient energy that infuses all that exists, an energy that could be described as God, that I feel to describe as "the Creator", but my guide is not even close to being anything like this. I also certainly do not worship her. Argue with her, ignor her, get teased by her - yes, worship her - no!

Babylonkiller, do you accept the idea that Mother Earth, the Goddess of Nature is a real spirit - a living entity? I do. I have no doubt of this as over a year ago she paid me a visit in the form of the Green Lady. If you're not familiar with this term, look it up - you'll find references to her in English folk lore, and literature on Natural Magic. Anyway, this spirit did pay me a visit in our world, and encouraged me to then visit her in the astral. I achieved this a few times, and have met her face to face on a few occasions.

Just after I was introduced to my guide (henceforth referred to as simply "alien" or "guide"), I started to doubt her existence. I thought it might have been my own imagination. I then very clearly heard the voice of the Green Lady telling me that this was not imagination, that She had arranged my meeting with this guide. In the midst of doubting the existence of my guide, that doubt spread, and I started questioning whether or not I did meet the Spirit of Nature.

This plagued me for a while, and I just about gave it all up for a bad joke when I was contacted by another member of this forum, who I didn't know at the time, a man who is highly experienced at being able to see that which is beyond our realm, and a man who was graced by the presence of the Green Lady herself. He was able to confirm for me, as have other since who have also met her, that this being, the spirit of our own Earth, is very much real.

The Green Lady then came back into my thoughts, and very clearly told me that if I am now assured of her existance, I must also rest assured that my guide also exists and is trustworthy, as it was the Green Lady who arranged for her to be my teacher.

This has nothing to do with my free will or your thoughts about of my lack thereof. I am free to do what I wish. I am free to take my guide's council, or turn away and walk my own path. Nobody has told me that I have to do anything. As my guide has said to me in my moments of lethargy - I am the one who will grow old while I'm procrastinating, not her. I have followed the desires of the Spirit of Nature, not because I have to, but because of the very deep love that I have for her. She told me when we first met -  "Do not worship me, just love me." I have met her "avatar", her personification. Her presence was completely overwhelming. No human has ever had the kind of sheer presence, radiance and love that I saw in this woman.

My experiences have provided me with the knowledge and the truth as I percieve it, as is required by me. I do not feel the need to have any kind of god watch over me, but if this goddess has chosen to do so of her own will, I'm not about to argue with her. I'm also not out for any kind of self gratification or ego trip here. Just because she has appeared to me in no way makes me special, as many others have also met the Green Lady. My ego has no place in my spiritual or self development. Ego is a mask that blinds and deafens us to the lessons we are here to learn.

I spent a lot of time looking at this situation from both the positive and the negative. Reading the opinions of others on the internet who have claimed to have channeled these aliens, reading books in the library, but more importantly listening to my own heart and being guided by my own intuition. I tested it to see if it is true and I tested it to see if it is false. My tests came back that for me it is true

Whatever your beliefs are, however they may clash with mine or those of others here, I would ask you to please refrain from stating so categorically that I or anyone else here is so absolutely wrong, or that I am lying. Remember, please - truth is subjective. You might not be religious in any way, but such statements do make you sound like a close minded fanatic. Talk of killing and destroying because of your beliefs also sounds the words of a closed minded fanatic. What would you say to us if we were not to listen to you and wish to continue on this path? Would you then say that you will destroy us too for our beliefs?
From your other posts I would not have considered you this harsh a person.

Anyway, in situations like this I like the comment made by Morpheus to Commander Lock in Matrix: Reloaded -
Lock: "Not everyone believes what you believe!"
Morpheus: "My beliefs do not require them to."

Please consider,
James.
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2003, 13:44:12 »

Words of wisdom there James....

Fuzz come back and tell us more!!
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2003, 14:23:57 »

Hello all
Im  glad to see so many responses. I have been delayed in responses on the thread, because im spending time for the hollidays abroad. The posts im doing are therefore done at an internetcafe and in vacationtime. I will be back more available after the 5th of january, and so you can expect a more speadily response after that time.
I will in this post as previous, provide answers to questions. Format is as follows:

R: Reptilians speaking
F: Myself (Fuzziwig) speaking
Questions

Conversation:
F: Hello
R: Hello
F: how are you doing ?
R: were fine
F: [Smiley]
F: are you ready to answer some more questions ?
R: we are
F: okay
darkangel13: are you related in any way, or have you heard of Nibiru, the Annunaki, or anything related to the subject?
R: We are not related to the Annunaki or similar. The Annunaki are a ppl who we know of and have spoken to, but not a ppl that we share genetics with. The Nibiru is a planet that we also know of and this being the home of the Annunaki.
Hephaestus: Do you believe in an all powerful God?
R: No, we do not
Hephaestus: and that this God created the universe?
R: we do not believe in a all powerful God, but we do believe in a God that created the universe.
Risu no Kairu: These genotypes are just like little lifeforms that float through space and occasionally take up residency on a planet?
R: no, the genotypes are formulas to life
Risu no Kairu: So, like, it would be possible to do a genetic comparison of the Reptilian species and, say, an iguana, and they'd be more similar than an iguana and a human?
R: yes, it would be possible to do such a comparison. The comparison would show that we are more similar to the iguana than humans are.
Risu no Kairu: Or some other nonEarth lifeform and compare that to a bird, and they'd be similar?
R: We dont currently know of an alien species related to the bird.
F: but you could compare alien species to other species on planet Earth and find them similar ?
R: yes, you could
Hephaestus: You speak of a single source by which all genotypes originated, do you know what and/or where this source is?
R: We know of the source of which all these genotypes originate. All the genotypes have been constructed so that life can be made from them, and so there is a creator of these. The creator is not what you would call a physical being, but more of a nonphysical being whos task is to create opportunities to experience.
F: is this being what you percieve to be God ?
R: no
F: Any of our Gods, religion take your pick ?
R: no, not any of your religions refer to this being
F: okay, moving on
Hephaestus: Is time travel possible and are you capable of it?
(i relay the conventional thought of travel as in physical travel and time being our timeline)
R: no, time travel is not possible.
F: would timetravel be possible in non-physical ways ?
R: yes
F: would, say future timetravel be exact ?
R: Timetravel in the future wouldnt be exact because it hasnt happened yet.
F: i see, so what you would see in such a travel is an estimated guess ?
R: yes, a guess that is based on what the guides may think to be a good idea to present.
F: are there bigger things happening that are known to happen in the future ?
R: yes, there are some overall important things that will happen and which will be a part of the future.
F: so the guides guess of a future could contain these bigger things happening ?
R: indeed it could
Hephaestus: also is time in the 4th density the same as it is in the 3rd density eg. is it linear?
R: Time in 4th density is not the same as 3rd density, however it is linear.
F: does that mean that time is faster or slower in 4th than in 3rd density ?
R: Time is not happening faster or slower, but it is different in the way that there are separate timelines for each density dimension.
F: so our timeline is happening parallel to yours ?
R: yes
F: did yours and our timeline start to exist at the same time ?
R: no
F: your timeline in 4rd density existed before ours ?
R: yes
F: okay, so you have a different universe, which we cant see ?
R: yes
F: and that universe is older than ours ?
R: yes it is
F: so by changing density, you also change universe ?
R: yes
F: if our planet were to change density, would that be the only planet doing it. I mean what about our sun ?
R: your solarsystem would change as well, and move on to the next density level.
F: would there be space for our solarsystem in this new universe ?
R: there would
F: eventually, wouldnt the lower density universes run out of matter the more species that transcended ?
R: no, the matter that is moved from one universe to another is replaced the other way as well.
F: then would there be a duplicate of say planet earth on another density level ?
R: no, it doesnt work that way. The matter is just realigned but not in structure.
F: would the matter be replaced the same place ?
R: no, different places
F: same area then ?
R: no
F: the matter goes the same place after each transition ?
R: no, its random of a sort
Hephaestus: (depending how previous question is answered) You mentioned that before the transition to the 4th density you explored space and had colonys on other worlds, when your planet and yourselves moved to the 4th density what happened to these other 'reptilians' on these colony planets? are they still stuck in the 3rd density?
R: no, they are not stuck.
F: did you have colonies outside your solarsystem ?
R: yes, we did
F: would they have to move inside your solarsystem to follow the density transition ?
R: no that wasnt necesarry, they were moved automatically.
F: so the transition isnt area specific, but species specific ?
R: correct
F: then were those colonies moved inside the solarsystem after the transition ?
R: no, they were moved just outside.
F: the solarsystem was needed to be moved for your species ?
R: yes, it was needed in order to survive
F: okay
F: to get back to the timetravel question. Density transition would be kind of timetravel, wouldnt it ?
R: yes, by changing universe you also change timeline, and therefore you could call it timetravel.
F: but you would still be able to remember the experiences you had from the other timeline after the transition ?
R: yes
F: you said in the previous post that you explored spiritual worlds. This involves density shifts ?
R: sometimes it does. When its in another level than us, then yes.
F: with technology similar to the zeta's ?
R: yes
F: so you can also density shift to a higher level than your own ?
R: yes, we can
F: there is a limit to how high you can go up in level ?
R: yes, we can only go up one level beyond our own
F: does the shift affect your way of thinking ?
R: no
F: so there is no cutting corners ?
R: no, the density level we are in requires us to learn certain things, and it would be pointless in going futher without.
F: like putting a baby inside a car and expect it to drive ?
R: hehe yes, something like that
F: next
beavis: Who in the USA government are aliens? (I suspect king George Bush II)
(i relay the thought of aliens as being extra terrestials)
R: there arent any aliens in the USA goverment
F: well i think we end for now. Thank you for your time and patience
R: your welcome
F: till next time, take care
R: take care

Comment to Dark Knight:
I will gladly talk to you. As mentioned before im on vacation and will be available after that time. I will contact you when the time is.

Comment to darkangel13:
I havent read the thread that you refer to, but there will be chance to extend further on this subject later.

Comment to Hephaestus:
I left out your question:
"How does the transition of your planet and yourselves to the 4th density take place?"
Let me know if it wasnt answered here by the info given.

Comment to no_leaf_clover:
I have never channeled anything regarding eating meat. You are offcourse welcome to ask such questions here.

Comment to babylonkiller:
I think your comments would fit better in the discussion thread associated with this thread. I dont mind that you express your opinions but since this thread is for transcripts and questions, then the other thread might just be the place for a discussion about those opinions.

With warm wishes for a new year
of prosperity and fullfilment
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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2003, 16:06:43 »

Thankyou Fuzziwig for taking the time to have our questions answered especially also whilst its during your holiday period, I am very much grateful for this.
But not to be picky but you missed out 3 of my questions which were the ones I was most looking forward to the answers to [Wink]
these were.

*) In lightyears how far away is your planet from Earth? I would assume this to be during the time their planet was still in our density.

*) You speak of the 7 different races on your planet and each one has tasks they can do which other races cannot, could you give examples of what type of tasks one race can do which the others cannot?

*) You say you have contacted Humans since the moment we developed speach, therefore you have known us a long time, therefore you should be able to tell us did the man in the Bible known as Jesus exist and was he the son of God or a God? (I suppose this question could be altered to, was Jesus a higher density being)

also the question of how does the transition take place wasnt really answered, it was only marjonally answered, for example: how did the colony planets suddenly end up at their homeworld solar system for the transition? what specific event or 'thing' occurs which kick starts the transition?

Once again thankyou for your time [|)]

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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2003, 20:56:42 »

to james and no leaf:
no leaf... i am not trying to make you believe one thing or another,
i'm stating my opinions and thoughts like the rest of you, but
because i am passionate about attaining the truth. i tend to be
quite stubborn in my views because i live in a world where my own
government wants to enslave me and take away my freewill. my stubborn
ways are means of survival.
james...
you wrote quite a bit so i owe it to you to give you detailed reply.

"It seems though that you are already 100% convinced that what you believe is the absolute truth, despite the fact you have so far only substantiated of your theories by the beliefs of only 1 person - Billy Meier - who, rightly or wrongly, has been discredited in just the same way as you are trying to discredit those who do not follow his theories."

i am not trying to discredit anyone who isnt asking for it.
There are those who are so obviously submerged in their need to
fulfill a delusional fantasy, that i cant sit around and say nothing.
You want my theories?
i think that the way ants are to humans, we are to higher forms of
evolved conciousness. yes it is possible that we cannot grasp this and that due to our limited understanding, but that doesnt mean some
alien your channeling is there to help.
Im trying to tell you that you do not need a guide (where as you say
that i'm "forcing" my beliefs on you people) for a guide that is
more "advanced" and "wise" than you, that in itself is the perfect
scenario for a manipulation of a person for a specific task or
self serving reason. it is an open invitation to have your freewill
taken away. seriously, if i wanted to tell you what to believe, i
would write "you must believe in....."
i wont beat around the bush.

"As for it being provable that the Pleiadian stars are too young to support life - sorry, not provable. Astronomers are able to tell if a star has any orbiting bodies by either the "wobble" method, where the gravitational pull of a planet will show a wobble in the star's movement, or the "wink" method, where a planet causes a drop in the stars measured output by passing in front of it. Beyond that, as Hubble does not have the resolution to detect distant planets (maybey its replacement will, I don't know), and they cannot be properly detected by radio telescopes, we really don't know what might exist in the way of planets in this region of space. The only thing that was dispoved regarding the Pleiades stars was the existance of the Photon belt or Manasic Ring that was said to be a source of life in the region."
please tell me which scientists, and by what means did they discover
this?
no response to the latter question will prove your talking out your butt, let us see.

"a little bit about what I do know regarding my guide, the one you have so vehemently denounced as being some kind of delusion."
i did not say your guide is a delusion, i'm saying you are a
delusional person for failing to accomplish certain things by your
own self person. yuo have a delusion that you are unable to figure
out everything on your own.

" I believe that there is a sentient energy that infuses all that exists, an energy that could be described as God, that I feel to describe as "the Creator"".
We are all one, but ego has caused us to look at mankind as individuals.
By the way, a god is a ruler who assumes a position of worship. God
is a man made concept, Creator or creation on the otherhand is a much
more appropriate concept, for the fact that it exhibits total freedom, unlike beliefs in "god".

"Babylonkiller, do you accept the idea that Mother Earth, the Goddess of Nature is a real spirit - a living entity? I do. I have no doubt of this as over a year ago she paid me a visit in the form of the Green Lady. If you're not familiar with this term, look it up - you'll find references to her in English folk lore, and literature on Natural Magic. Anyway, this spirit did pay me a visit in our world, and encouraged me to then visit her in the astral. I achieved this a few times, and have met her face to face on a few occasions."
yes i accept the idea that mother nature is an entity but not a
goddess. For a goddess implies female, earth is neither. earth is a
downscale of Creation, it gives and gives and does not ask for things
in return, like say Christianity's God. as for your encounter, i wont
say its false or true, i simply ask why do you feel the need to tell
people of yur encounter, then reassure me by giving me a referance
pertaining to "folklore". then you reassure me that you have had
this encounter. this is the behaviour of someone who is trying to
find people to graify his ego by corroboration.

"This plagued me for a while, and I just about gave it all up for a bad joke when I was contacted by another member of this forum, who I didn't know at the time, a man who is highly experienced at being able to see that which is beyond our realm, and a man who was graced by the presence of the Green Lady herself. He was able to confirm for me, as have other since who have also met her, that this being, the spirit of our own Earth, is very much real."
how can you validate this person as truly having contact with the
"green lady"?
once again you find someone who agree's with your view in order to
satisfy your mind.
I'm not saying there is no spirit of the earth, but this green lady
sounsd no different than the easter bunny. although if you care to
explain it to me with some fact and plausible testimony than i am
more tha willing to have a conversation about the green lady.

"This has nothing to do with my free will or your thoughts about of my lack thereof. I am free to do what I wish. I am free to take my guide's council, or turn away and walk my own path. Nobody has told me that I have to do anything. As my guide has said to me in my moments of lethargy - I am the one who will grow old while I'm procrastinating, not her. I have followed the desires of the Spirit of Nature, not because I have to, but because of the very deep love that I have for her. She told me when we first met - "Do not worship me, just love me." I have met her "avatar", her personification. Her presence was completely overwhelming. No human has ever had the kind of sheer presence, radiance and love that I saw in this woman."
yes, you are free to do what you wish, it seems you are an expert
in freely giving away your freedom. I aint telling you what to do,
i never have (try to quote me as saying "You have to do this...
you must believe my view..."
i only state my opinions and slander (at times) those who are so
obviously non-sensical that it is a must that i spit venom.

"I have followed the desires of the Spirit of Nature, not because I have to, but because of the very deep love that I have for her."
The desire of nature does not include displaying ego over synthetically created electronic apparatus (your computer), anything
man made whatever it's purpose is artificial (not occuring naturally
within nature)and thus no the "Desire of nature".

there is a pattern in your words that you do not see. the pattern is
isolation from mass, and intergrtion with like minded.
you are searching for people to agree with you and constantly speak
of people who proved this, or told you this in a dream etc.
heresay and nothing more.

 "I'm also not out for any kind of self gratification or ego trip here. Just because she has appeared to me in no way makes me special, as many others have also met the Green Lady. My ego has no place in my spiritual or self development. Ego is a mask that blinds and deafens us to the lessons we are here to learn"
yet your ego is so obviously present in all your posts.

"I spent a lot of time looking at this situation from both the positive and the negative. Reading the opinions of others on the internet who have claimed to have channeled these aliens, reading books in the library, but more importantly listening to my own heart and being guided by my own intuition. I tested it to see if it is true and I tested it to see if it is false. My tests came back that for me it is true"
so what tests have you done? once again, it's all heresay with you.
You are not figuring out anything by yourself. you are going to books
and posts on the internet for info. by yourself means take the topic
at hand and go through it thoroughly, where as (it seems like) you
hear what is said, you see if it agrees with your opinion, and then
you judge wether or not it is correct. this is f**ked up behaviour.

"Whatever your beliefs are, however they may clash with mine or those of others here, I would ask you to please refrain from stating so categorically that I or anyone else here is so absolutely wrong, or that I am lying. Remember, please - truth is subjective. You might not be religious in any way, but such statements do make you sound like a close minded fanatic. Talk of killing and destroying because of your beliefs also sounds the words of a closed minded fanatic. What would you say to us if we were not to listen to you and wish to continue on this path? Would you then say that you will destroy us too for our beliefs?

i understand you dont appreciate me calling you a liar, so i take it
back, but i will say that cetain posts by certain people so clearlly
shows a pattern of lies, unprovable claims, and just overall in ability to answer questions with verafiable answers. sure, i can
see how you may view me as nothing more than a fanatic, so i'll
let you judge for yourself on that. Once again, i talk of killing
those who threaten my freedom and freewill. I speak in this way
because i do not realistically think that any person who is in
power today (that is greedy and powerhungry)will resign without
force, so force is needed to counter it. i display my aggravation
and death threats not to you, but to the establishment. but if you
are one who agrees with the establishment, than why should i
descriminate?
down with you and the establishment you follow or aid. you are
either helping to enslave or fighting against the enslavers. sitting
on your comp tryng to find theories that apeal to you is not taking
action against the tyrants. hope that clears up any questions on my
my reason for "anger" or whatever.
 
and no, i will not threaten to destroy you or kill you. my opinions
are clearly stated, you have for one reason or another chosen to
make me look like i a thought tyrant. Yes i am quite aggresive but
when worlds people and nature is on the line, aggression must be
present.

the fact is this, you say i am telling you what is and is not true.
you say i am telling you what to think.
when really i am saying what i feel.
if you also believe in personal opinion, and would have understood
that replying to my message is no neccasary.
but your ego has driven you to fulfill your sense of importance by
writng your multi angled post, then getting applause from oyur
friend.
if you cannot see this than thats that i guess.

believe what you will but dont quote me as saying things that i have
never said.
i never told you what to do or not to do, i've said the things you
believe presently are wrong as far as i see for you dont seem to
have a descent explanation of your beliefs and what grounds that they
have been asserted?

in respect to freewill, i will continue to state my opinions and
thoughts as i see fit. I will not call anybody liar or wrong, but
i will let them know when they are not right, or not telling the
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2003, 00:23:05 »

Hi Babylonkiller,

You have some reasonable comments here, but still very judgemental. You seem to jump to conclusions about my exact circumstances very quickly. I find this strange as I've only told you a very small portion of what I've experienced.

I know I’m not required to respond here, and I know by doing so I’m open to being accused of letting my ego out, but what the hell – gotta let the beast out of it’s cage once in a while [}:)]

I'm not looking for praise or acceptance here, I'm looking for balanced thinking.

Though you desire so fervently that everyone here think for themselves, show that they have free will and are not being led around by any organisation be it religious or government, all of which is commendable, you are still outright attacking those of us who have chosen a path that you do not agree with.

As to ego –
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as for fuzziwig: tell your reptile friends and the "pleadians" that i
Am the hunter of ari an and sheti peoples. Tell your reptile guides
or pleadian guides that i want to kill them. I am aware of reptilian
activity and hot spots in my city, so targeting the reptilians is not
difficult. tell them they cannot fool me, and tell them my brother and i will kill them all.

Sorry, but you know how the old saying goes – “let he who is without sin….”
To me, this is far more egotistical than anything I have said so far. Where do you come off with this stuff?

A less egotistical approach would be to be to ask people to use a bit of common sense and objectivity to prove for themselves if what they are experiencing is true, not coming right out and shoot down peoples beliefs as being flat out wrong.

I do not consider my ego to be an issue here. I do admit that I was being reactional, as my beliefs weren't just being questioned, they were being utterly dismissed as nonsense. I detailed my experiences to state a case for my beliefs, and why I hold to them. I DO believe these things. I have enough proof that I am satisfied I am travelling the path that is correct for me. My experiences tell me this, my intuition tells me this, and my heart tells me this. For a great number of years I was on the WRONG path, and felt no peace as I was constantly questioning and doubting the information I was being fed. I feel at peace now with my spiritual way. It is of my choosing.

By the way, if the spirit of nature appears to you in the form of a human woman, then believe me, you'll not be inclined to enter into a  debate about gender. The term Goddess as referring to the Spirit of the Earth has been around a very long time, in English and Celtic Pagan history, American Indian history, Wiccan lore, etc.

quote:
Im trying to tell you that you do not need a guide (where as you say
that i'm "forcing" my beliefs on you people) for a guide that is
more "advanced" and "wise" than you, that in itself is the perfect
scenario for a manipulation of a person for a specific task or
self serving reason. it is an open invitation to have your freewill
taken away.

I mostly agree with you on the point. I have argued a similar case myself, though not from the point of view of staying away from spirit guides all together, but from a point of view of making people aware that when they venture into contact with the spirits, they need to be very careful of exactly who or what they are communicating with. It’s common sense really.

I do not require higher beings to show me the answers. If I do then I'm going to be sorely disappointed! My guide has told me she has no intention of just giving me the answers. You don't learn anything that way. I have all the answers I need either within me, or I have the capacity to find the answers within me. I certainly appreciate the assistance that has been offered in helping me find these answers though. It's like doing a jigsaw puzzle -  I know I can complete the puzzle, but sometimes it helps to have another pair of eyes to see where some of the pieces are. This service has been offered to me. Why should I dismiss it?

quote:
i never told you what to do or not to do, i've said the things you
believe presently are wrong as far as i see for you dont seem to
have a descent explanation of your beliefs and what grounds that they
have been asserted?

in respect to freewill, i will continue to state my opinions and
thoughts as i see fit. I will not call anybody liar or wrong, but
i will let them know when they are not right, or not telling the
truth.

Well, actually yes you have been telling us what to do, or in this case, that we should NOT be having anything to do with these aliens.  You have a burning desire to see people use their free will, yet by your own words you would deny us this.

Yes these are only your opinions, I accept that, and I have no problem with you presenting your opinions about concepts and beliefs, but I do have a problem when you put these opinions across in a personal and aggressive manner.

With the last part of your comment, exactly what qualifies you to be able to tell any of us whether we are wrong or right?

So far what I have seen from your writings here is a lot of big noise about what we should or should not believe and why we are wrong. Couple that with your overt desire to do violence on these races that you don’t seem to believe in anyway, and what are we supposed to think? These are not words that I am encouraged to take heed of.

Please, stay and share your opinions, but don’t beat us over the head with your own “unprovable claims”

Regards,
James.

P.S. Yes I have edited one word in your post. As per the terms and conditions of this site -
"In your use of these forums, you agree that you will not post any information which is vulgar, harassing, hateful, threatening, invading of others privacy, sexually oriented, or violates any laws."
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2003, 03:29:28 »

alright, alright, i'll tone it down for all you sensitive people out there.
you got a point about me denying you your freewill but reality is in
the way you alone percieve it, and you thinking i have any way of
abusing your freewill are asked at this point to explain?
in any case, sure i'll enroll into more productive conversation.
that was the first thing i did, i'm still waiting for replies.

i'd like to reply to your latest post but i rather not as i tend to
state things in a certain way.

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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2003, 04:25:17 »

Your way of abusing our free will (despite the fact that we can choose to completely ignore you if we wish [Smiley]) is done simply by denying our choice of belief by stating so adamantly that it is wrong.

You're right in that it is all a matter of perception, and that we all percieve reality differently. As long as we are all careful enough with our perception to make sure we pay attention to what is spiritually or developmentally good for us and what isn't, then right and wrong beliefs effectively become a matter of personal preference. There are some general guidelines to be considered that are beneficial to us, but no true "global" constants for everyone.

I am not sensitive to having my beliefs questioned, it is how they are questioned that matters - for the sake of discussion that is.

I view this in the same way that I view salesmen who try to sell something by bagging the oppositions products. I don't like this, and at that point I tend to walk away. If they want to sell me on something, they need to sell me on the details of their own product, the merits and the benefits, and how it might compare to the opposition, not on how bad the opposition's products are.

Regards,
James.

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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2003, 04:36:19 »

Babylonkiller seems to beleive he has cornered the market on truth. In this he is as bad as the reptillians. I'd almost think he's the reincarnation of xelios except that he knows how to spell and write complete sentences.LOL!

Ah poor Xelios, I knew him well!
Is that in the Biblical sense Mr. lizard?
He used to call me his little Nephilim.

LOL!
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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2003, 09:14:53 »

Fuzzi,

I think a little instruction on the difference between time-space and space-time is in order here. That would probably clear up the miscommunication in the last conversation.
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2003, 11:36:25 »

Hey, Fuzzi, hope you're well.

Everyone else, too.

You too extraterrestrials.

So, uh, Earth scientists like to look at the universe and assume and try to make it conform to how they think it should work instead of conforming their theories to how it works.

They take what the see on Earth and apply it to the Universe. They assume all life has to be like Earth life, and has to rely on water, and be carbon based.

So, uh, you guys ever encounter a species/race/being/whatever you would like to call it that doesn't need water to survive? (3rd Density, I guess, since I don't know if 4th density people need to need. I think the Zetas said they just absorb energy, or something).
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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2003, 13:23:21 »

Risu no Kairu...

Coolness, you made an awesome leap in logic. Yeah, that's essentially it. It's like creating God in our image instead of asking how God created us in his image.

It's like people want God working for them instead of them working for God. Sorry doesn't work that way.
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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2003, 21:37:44 »

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It's like people want God working for them instead of them working for God. Sorry doesn't work that way.


something tells me that most of the world's monotheistic religions haven't figured this one out yet. [8]

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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2004, 20:23:21 »

Here's a question i'm curious about.  Maybe it's not about aliens but it has been on my mind recently (when i mean recently, i mean this morning when i woke up.  All of a sudden it popped into my head.).  

The question:
What would happen to you if you were to die for the one you love? Where would you go? Would you have to reincarnate back into another life and live the same experience again so that you won't make the same mistake? Or.... is it just another lesson learnt (here, i mean the lesson in love where you have learned what is the meaning of loving someone....and willing to die for them.), and you go on living another life and experiencing another lesson.

Here's an example/scenerio:
You and your lover are in a situation where only one can live. There are no other ways to escape from that fate.  You decide that you will sacrifice yourself because of the deep love that you have for that person.  You run into the traffic lights and push your lover out of harm's way. The lover is safe. You die.

What happens from here and onward?  what happens to you?

I want to see what the aliens have to say about it. Maybe any input from other people too, if they like.[Smiley]
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2004, 08:05:00 »

Why would sacrificing yourself for another be bad? Selfless Sacrifice would be the highest love there is.

Wasn't it the Christ entity that incarnated, suffered and died so others wouldn't have to? Although I often hear He's coming back, I don't think it's to re-learn something because he had to sacrifice Himself. [Wink]

I think if it would teach anything it would be that love doesn't die with the physical form and transcends physical attachment.
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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2004, 15:21:28 »

I would think that having this strong feeling before dying would let this person stay around longer.  He would probably end up watching over his lover making sure that she is still safe.
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2004, 05:46:50 »

Question for the Reptilians: Do you guys look anything like the 'reptilian' side of this bust thingy?

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page338.html
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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2004, 08:59:05 »

Ica Stones of Peru. Old tribal tales of monster beasts. Champie, Big Foot. Yeti.

OK, I'm sure you've guessed it. (Well, maybe not you reptilians. You might have read my mind or something before I finished typing it out. I don't know.)

Are the Ica Stones authentic? Was there a time in history where man walked beside dinosaur?

Are there still creatures on the planet Earth we would call dinosaurs?

Does bigfoot/yeti exist? Are there giant octupus (like, the size of ships) in the sea?

Are there any subjects we haven't brought up yet that you think we should inquire about?

Are there any artificial (as in created by a 3D organic being) beings in the universe? If so, how do they work? Are they drone like, or do they have self will, awareness, and personality? Do they get souls? Who created them? What do they look like?

What will happen to the rest of the life on Earth when this whole pole shift raise to the next level thing happens? They'll come, too, right? Not just mankind?
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2004, 13:08:33 »

Yo, Risu no Kairu,

I've PMing you the stuff you asked for, but I can't get through.

I can PM everyone but you.
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2004, 16:05:10 »

Question the the reptilians:

1) Lets say I have just bombarded a singularity with electrons
to alter the size of its event horizon and thus its gravitational field. What would happen if I overlapped these fields from two singularities?
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2004, 19:40:56 »

I like Risu no Kairu's idea of posting questions for both the Zeta and Reps and comparing responses, so here are some questions I asked the Zeta.

1. What are the odds of a nuclear war here before Nibiru arrives?

2. Was the Cold War agreed upon by the US and Russian governments to occupy public interest after WW2?

3. If it is possible for nuclear war occur, and it was clear nukes were about to be launched and casualties would be in the millions, would there be any extraterrestrial intervention or would we be left to our own problems?


btw Hephaestus - Unless he knows what you're talking about, your question would be nearly impossible for Fuzzi to channel because I doubt Fuzzi has had any experiences to allow him to relate to the things you ask about. See this post for more info: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6924&whichpage=9 . It's a post of mine about halfway down. Third from last I believe, since Edi's is so long.
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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2004, 19:17:50 »

I dont understand what you're trying to say, a question such as the one ive put forth should be easily answered by a 4th density being, its a simply case of asking the question as ive written.
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