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« on: March 20, 2009, 00:43:58 »

Hello all

I'm new here so sorry if i am asking stuff that has already been covered

I was making some audio recordings of various things around the apartment i am staying in while my friend is travelling. At one point i was recording the sounds of pen on paper and i felt a movement in the pen after i had stopped so i let draw for a while.

At first was pretty random looking and i didnt feel anything very strange so i got curious and took some more paper. I began to feel some stronger energy after a while and then my hand started to draw a figure of 8 over and over and increasing in speed til the page was almost totally shaded in and the pencil wore down. Was almost like being in a trance and when i stopped the page curled up in a U shape and i could feel something almost like a magnetic feeling in the page. I went to the bathroom to be away from it and the lightbulb blew when i turned it on.

I ended up repeating the experiment the following nite and the pen took off as soon as i put it down. This troubled me so i stopped and fired up google and pretty soon was reading about automatic writing (i was very sceptical about these things beforehand), i also noticed that figure of 8 is generally not a good omen when connected to ouija boards etc.

I have had some strange sensations since then, air moving, hot and very cold feet, feeling a light pressure nearby brushing against me sometimes but only in this apartment

I am starting to feel a bit anxious at this stage, have had no appetite etc

Anybody have some advice for me?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 21:51:38 »

maybe not a figure 8 but an infinity symbol?
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 04:08:02 »

Just my 2 cents, but I once cured a friend of the symptoms of the common cold with a sugar pill (he thought it was a cold pill), so you never know.  Prayer might be helpful if your religious.  If you are more ritual minded the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram can work wonders; best of all it doesn't require a shift in paradigm!  You should really be careful when channeling your subconscious without proper training, as you can see it can get ya.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 16:06:24 »

Why does everything "paranormal" need some sort of anthropomorphic attachment to it?      It's not an energy, it's a "spirit".  You're putting too much personality into these things.  There's no way to truly know if these influences are "benign" or "evil" or what ever. 

I'm sure if you went to some "guru" or "spiritual leader" they'll have you convinced that
1) it is either the work of the devil or an evil spirit   
2) That you should stop at all costs.

   Automatic writing is a personal reflection. Don't become psychotic and insist that something "else" is influencing you, that is the path to complete mental breakdown (delusions). 
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 21:30:04 »

Hello all

I'm new here so sorry if i am asking stuff that has already been covered
  Hello fortycoats.  A lot of good folks already responded, I'm just going to put it in a different way:

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I was making some audio recordings of various things around the apartment i am staying in while my friend is travelling. At one point i was recording the sounds of pen on paper and i felt a movement in the pen after i had stopped so i let draw for a while.

At first was pretty random looking and i didnt feel anything very strange so i got curious and took some more paper. I began to feel some stronger energy after a while and then my hand started to draw a figure of 8 over and over and increasing in speed til the page was almost totally shaded in and the pencil wore down. Was almost like being in a trance and when i stopped the page curled up in a U shape and i could feel something almost like a magnetic feeling in the page. I went to the bathroom to be away from it and the lightbulb blew when i turned it on.
This sounds to me like you had an awareness opening,  like some said.  Going into trance can do this to you. Your subconscious has spent a lot of your lifetime filtering reality for you- when you open up like this you become aware of lots of stuff that was there already, you just are not used to it.  This feels like your subconscious took over, it spooked you, and also you are more aware of energy effects-and energy can be perceived many ways.  Because of the way we're used to thinking, we project our fear to it, and can cause stuff that is scary.  I think this may be one of these cases.
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I ended up repeating the experiment the following nite and the pen took off as soon as i put it down. This troubled me so i stopped and fired up google and pretty soon was reading about automatic writing (i was very sceptical about these things beforehand), i also noticed that figure of 8 is generally not a good omen when connected to ouija boards etc.
The thing that would have occurred to me would have been that it's the symbol for infinity, or a moebious strip- but chances are it's just free flowing energy being expressed by your hand.  BTW, I think anyone trying to write with their eyes closed would produce an 8, I don't know what else you can write without lifting the pen.  An 8 seems like a natural flowing thing to write, at least it seems to me.

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I have had some strange sensations since then, air moving, hot and very cold feet, feeling a light pressure nearby brushing against me sometimes but only in this apartment
Those are sensations you have always felt, but were not aware of.  That's why they call it 'lifting the veil'.  Chances are that the reason you don't feel it in other places is because you're distracted by other stimuli- at home it's quiet, you can really 'tune into' energy sensations.

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I am starting to feel a bit anxious at this stage, have had no appetite etc

Anybody have some advice for me?
If you feel very threatened use passive countermeasures (salt, moving water) or Prayer, or the LBRP, but chances are there's nothing to worry about.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2009, 03:02:35 »

Thanks to all for the replies

Would have responded sooner but have been having a hard time focusing on things all week, sleeping and eating habits have also gone out the window. Seems kundalini has woken up, i had heard the word before and knew it was a type of yoga so it has been quite an experience. Am still coming to terms with the changes that are happening but have found that welcoming it helps a lot.

I am relieved i found some information about the subject on this forum, hearing words coming from my mouth and having no idea what they were was when i decided i must be losing my mind. Was quite a relief to see this listed among the symptoms of awakening. I still wasnt sure because i had experienced many of the symptoms except the one that everybody reports, the flow of energy to the crown.

After last nite i have no doubts!
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 03:29:58 »

That's interesting, Fortycoats....

I have read a good deal about that phenomenon, both in contemporary and vedantic literature. What are your symptoms, and how did you decide Kundalini was the answer?

If it is indeed Kundalini, there is a good deal of material in circulation- there are some more respected selections from El Collie, and Gopi Krishna. While it is exciting news, there are also difficulties often associated with awakened kundalini, and if it is anything like the cases I am familiar with, the symptoms may at times grow to be life interrupting, so I wish you all the best!

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2009, 04:45:23 »

The symptoms, where do i start?

The first 2/3 days were frightening since i had no idea what was happening, hardly slept at all and my appetite disappeared which i put down to stress about my automatic writing experience . But why did i still have so much energy? Hmm
Had on/off bouts of twitching, sometimes internally, sometimes felt like i was being touched almost. Very noticeable temperature changes mostly in my feet and left leg. The most amazing thing for me was that my hearing got really really good, started hearing lots of details in music, hearing sounds from the other apartments at those times. Have a long time sound design hobby/obsession so really wanted to keep this one!

The nite after i posted this i had a dream like moment when i started speaking unknown words and managed to snap out of it after 2 or 3, that was extremely distressing. I was immediately wide awake so i started looking on the internet and stumbled upon the El Collie website, too many of the symptoms were familiar to me at that point to ignore.

I remembered a part of the dream i had then, usually cant remember my dreams. I had the words "next time, its a lifetime" very clear in my mind. Symptoms were ongoing but it was almost reassuring to get occasional headaches and bouts of bliss, stinging pains, heat spots and i accepted that something major was happening and to fight it would be foolish and dangerous. Was still not sure if it was Kundalini awakening though

Last nite at some point i was almost asleep and began to feel something indescribable... im not even going to try anymore, at one point a certain thought was the trigger. I will never forget it but i cant do it justice in words. I need to rethink a lot of things and find some meaning but i have a feeling i will get there

Thanks for the advice : )
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 17:28:20 »

youve got to fight it. if not reject at least seize control of the dam thing. if you let things get outta hand things will go badly
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 04:57:38 »

Hey Smiley

I agree that it was an awareness opening. 8 is the infinity symbol, has to do with Ourobouros, the Sacred Serpent (dragon) and Thoth, the "game master." From what I see, it was a combination of part of you knowing that "8" had a special meaning, like a key to a lock. Part of it was the energetic atmosphere, it was either magnified or spiritually harmonic to your own energies in some way. There are some discarnate energy in that space, but nothing of real influence...just a "fading" "shimmer" spirit I guess you'd call it.

When you go into a trance and induce that energy into your bio-flow, its like you become a lightbulb that attracts moths.

Youre cool. Just try to regulate that flow of your energy coming back so you dont get "burned" Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 01:19:36 »

youve got to fight it. if not reject at least seize control of the dam thing. if you let things get outta hand things will go badly

I had what some would term a "spontaneous kundalini awakening" this past summer. From my experience, control is really the last thing I was able to maintain. This energy is/can be extremely powerful.   
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 02:58:13 »

I had what some would term a "spontaneous kundalini awakening" this past summer. From my experience, control is really the last thing I was able to maintain. This energy is/can be extremely powerful.   

Call me a spiritually liberal hippie, but my from my "understanding", youre not supposed to control kundalini. Like good sex, its just something you ride and experience.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 05:52:54 »

When i first was becoming "aware" about 9-12 years ago I stumbled across automatic writing by accident - i at that time just accepted it as channeling some nondescript source of energy that was (at the time more aware than myself).

i would hear the voice & write or simply write and sometimes i wouldn't even know the upcoming word until it was written.

i found this experience quite profound. i became to take huge array of notes. On reading them there were may profound insights about all sorts of things... i do not know where these energies were coming from but I never felt they were bad or hostile or unpleasant in any way.. "it" was a bit intense at times and i'm not sure what you/i have been experiencing in these instances but i found it mostly a positive experience which halted after the original experience in a few weeks. It may still happen spontaneously to me at times, though rarely (maybe 3-5 times per year now). Each time "it" returns I feel similar sensations.. a strong almost 'incomprehensible' urge to write and a feeling of heightened awareness in my everyday life. So possibly it is relate able to some sort of awakening.

Do not fear these experiences - they are most likely not evil/bad etc from experience but i would consider awareness when interacting with them

I have found questioning these energies is useful. If you do "hear them" - clairaudience type symptoms - Ask them to state their intention three times... I found if they cannot state their intention successfully three times (i don't know why three times - i find many cannot state it twice) they are likely not higher order energies and not who they claim to be or their intention is not aligned with what they are stating... "saying one thing believing another"

If this is true i would suggest quick cessation of that particular interaction

Just my opinion from someone who has some experience with this phenomenom,
take it or leave it - you know what is true for you Smiley

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I have found questioning these energies is useful. If you do "hear them" - clairaudience type symptoms - Ask them to state their intention three times... I found if they cannot state their intention successfully three times (i don't know why three times - i find many cannot state it twice) they are likely not higher order energies and not who they claim to be or their intention is not aligned with what they are stating... "saying one thing believing another"


Peace Smiley


GOOD idea! Im going to use that Smiley I've always been able to successfully screen them out through my Heart chakra, sensing their energy signatures. But, definetly going to use that as a backup.

Ive done my channelling through automatic writing for the most part. For me, a lot of it appears as words through my mind before filtering down through my hands. Though the process itself is quick to me, I always can sense that it is quite slow for those I'm channeling, like they have to slow themselves down and enunciate. Automatic-"typing" is preferred more by them, and me to an extent. All that writing tends to hurt my hand after awhile!

Ive been told pretty neat things, and usually the one I channell is very open about what he reveals. But there are boundaries he wont go past and things he wont disclose.

:Love Light and Peace:

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 11:58:03 »

For me, a lot of it appears as words through my mind before filtering down through my hands. Though the process itself is quick to me, I always can sense that it is quite slow for those I'm channeling, like they have to slow themselves down and enunciate.

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Hi Corie, now you mention it... this is more often how this comes to me also though very quickly (appearing in words before filtering down toward my hands). Sometimes it's like the words are written in what i call Clearlight. It's not really written & not really seen but it is, it's more felt/sensed somehow and totally understandable by myself...

Good to see there are others out there who are experiencing very similar things.

One person I met who also "hears/channels" suggests that if the energy comes to you through the area near the rear throat chakra (around C7), that the energy/energies are higher order. If you are receiving it through the third/fifth eye area then it is most likely astral based energies. Interacting with these astral energies requires upmost discernment. If you are able.. sensing energy signatures is a good way to do this  cool

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 14:55:33 »

Hi Corie, now you mention it... this is more often how this comes to me also though very quickly (appearing in words before filtering down toward my hands). Sometimes it's like the words are written in what i call Clearlight. It's not really written & not really seen but it is, it's more felt/sensed somehow and totally understandable by myself...

Good to see there are others out there who are experiencing very similar things.

One person I met who also "hears/channels" suggests that if the energy comes to you through the area near the rear throat chakra (around C7), that the energy/energies are higher order. If you are receiving it through the third/fifth eye area then it is most likely astral based energies. Interacting with these astral energies requires upmost discernment. If you are able.. sensing energy signatures is a good way to do this  cool

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There's really no question of skill, I dont think. Just use your Heart chakra, although if its under or over active, it may not work up to par. You just focus on that chakra, and you'll feel it. Its kinda hard to explain further than that.

Yeah, I know about the "ClearLight" thing. Like theyre written in Light, you can see them but you cant. Sometimes it feels like Im transcribing what I sense there. But, as I wished to make sure the were the True words of the Being I was channelling, I made him actually physically write them as well-thus the "slowed down enunciated" feeling from that Being.

He's very patient with me. I dont know how he does it. I couldnt be that patient, lol. But he understands where Im coming from. I dont channell to write new age books, make a website, and adopt  a guru mentality. I just do it to figure stuff out. Which is why most of my channellings are of a very personal nature. He realizes this.

Gurus, from my understanding, are not as interested in making sure their information is as "solid" as it could be, but rather in selling books and treating it like a business.

:Love Light and Peace:

Corie
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2009, 11:07:02 »

Call me a spiritually liberal hippie, but my from my "understanding", youre not supposed to control kundalini. Like good sex, its just something you ride and experience.

:Love Light and Peace:

Corie

lol I completely agree with you. Seems I had to learn the hard way to get that lesson.
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