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« Reply #125 on: December 04, 2003, 21:46:17 »

Oops! Sorry, I didn't see the previous question, ignore the above Shocked)
I have a question though, if I may :

"if you are not allowed to directly interfere with our development, why the warning about the poleshift, and the subsequent contact you have with us?"

Thankyou Shocked)

Rob
P.s, you said earlier that we may ask personal questions?
I have one if I may..
"The last two months, I have had almost uncontrollable sexual desires.. has energy work got anything to do with this? Thankyou"

Rob
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« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2003, 10:44:00 »

I actually posted a new topic instead of replying, because i'm a newbie...So here it is again.

Hello all,

I have some questions I would like awnsered by the Zetas, or by the Pleiadians. I so far have recently had 3 dreams concerning aliens. The first was an encounter of which I believe were Pleiadians where I was taken upon a space ship, but this dream didn't have much signifagance for the dream just took another direction, and turned out to be a typical dream.

The second dream was during the same night, and I know it was concerning the zetas, because the dream started where I was standing outside of a house with I think 3 other people I don't remember if I knew these people or not, but we were standing there when all of the sudden we notice lights in the sky that were moving in formation with each other. Then all of the sudden one came down from the sky, and hovered above this house which was a log home, or just had wooden siding, but anyways we us people were standing there in awe of the craft, when two I'm pretty sure Zetas appeared, or they were just Grays, or whatever. They appeared on the top of the wooden deck that was connected to the side of the house, and looked at us for a couple moments when one of them gestured for me to come to them. I was resilient at first, but soon obliged. As I walked up the steps of the deck they reached their hands out as if the help me up the deck. I remember trying not to grip their hands to tight so I didn't hurt them cause of their petite figure, but I soon found out that their hands didn't feel frail at all. After this happened this is where the dream ended, and I woke up dissapointed.

Now the third dream just happened last night. I don't seem to recall too much of this dream, and its surroundings except that this took place on my old street that I grew up as a kid from about age 1 to about age 13, but anyways I remember being their, and I remember being alone just out in the middle of the street, and I began to look up at the sky to find about 7 lights in the sky moving counter-clockwise in a cirlce, and also making other sudden movements. I remember acknowledging consiously that these were aliens, but that was about the only point of control that I have of this dream until later. As I looked up at the sky I think maybe 2 ships came down, but i'm not too sure. But I do remember one of the ships having a triagle shape with green lights resembling long cylindrical florescent-neon type lights. The ship wasn't directly overhead, but probally 75-100 feet infront of me at about 50 feet of heighth. The ship then shot down a neon-colored blue beam as if to beam up things into the ship. I sat there, and looked at it, and wondered why it had beemed down where there was nothing....When all of the sudden I got pulled from where I was to where the beam was to find a alien standing there in my presence. He was about my height which is 6'3", and had green tinted skin. I had to speak verbally to talk to him, but he could speak to me telepathically, and I could tell he was a male by the sound I heard in my mind. I said "Hello". And he responded, "Hello". I then stood there looking at him, and consiously thinking if he benevolent or not. So I proceded to ask him consiously if he believed in peace, love, and unity. He responded, "The universe was founded up peace, love, and unity, and I am also". After that I tended to trust him a little more, but not fully when I felt a upwards pulling feeling on my body, and it actually felt pleasent, and I wasn't afraid except for a little bit of anxiety. I then saw the ground getting farther away, and I saw the surrounding houses get smaller when I then was lifted into the space ship where I saw this square hatch close beneath where I was. I looked around and seen darker red walls with designs on them, and I found my self thinking it looked like carpet on the walls...lol. But it was a smaller room, and I was kinda expecting the be in a huge room, or something. So I looked behind me and found a little square hole that had stairs decending down into what looked like a bigger room that was white, and was illuminated with white light for what I could see. And that's when well people the dream ended! Kinda made me mad...lol. But I remember trying to tell myself to go back to sleep, and continue on with dream, but with no avail.

I'm actually expecting, or hope to have another dream like this again sometime in the near future. So if anyone could ask the Zetas, about Doug Smith in Rhinelander, WI, U.S.A. it would be greatly appreciated, and I hope you all enjoy the rather not exciting ending dreams of mine...lol

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« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2003, 10:44:00 »

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« Reply #127 on: December 23, 2003, 02:33:02 »

I have a good question, how do they (Zeta's) expect us to believe anything they say, after they obviously lead us on about the poleshift event in may, if they exist at all that is.

How conveniant that after it dosen't happen, ol' nancy simply says it was to lead on the rich, no way could it of been anything else other than that.

I absolutly believe that aliens are visiting us, I've seen ufo's flying  in the sky, it's just that until I have a face-to-face convo.  with one, (witch I would gladly have) I don't know if I'm ready to believe what someone is interpreting in there head to be actually true.

Proof is all I ask for, is that really too much to ask?
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« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2003, 12:02:46 »

Well, hysterix, you can't just believe them based on what you read. You should always have a little doubt about things you read on the Internet.

They have answered that question in this thread, though.

Face to face, huh? Well, uh... Go read the Pendulum topic. It's one of Mayatnik's topics.
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« Reply #129 on: December 24, 2003, 12:40:30 »

While I understand that someone wants proofs; I am always a little bit puzzled when people "demand" that people spend some time to prove it to them...
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« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2003, 19:55:33 »

Here I got some really interesting questions to be awnsered by anyone! Oh I took em off a site, and figured I'd post em for their hard to answerness...lol

#1.
Are all the (measurable) dimensionless parameters that characterize the physical Universe, calcuable in principle, or are some merely determined by historical or quantum mechanical accident and uncalcuable?

#2.
How can quantum gravity help explain the origin of the Universe?


#3.
What is the lifetime of the proton and how do we understand it?


#4.
Is Nature supersymmetric, and if so, how is supersymmetry broken?


#5.
Why does the Universe appear to have one time and three space dimensions?


#6.
Why does the cosmological constant have the value that it has? Is it zero and is it really constant?


#7.
What are the fundamental degrees of freedom of M Theory (the theory whose low-energy limit is eleven-dimensional supergravity and that subsumes the five consistent superstring theories) and does the theory describe nature?


#8.
What is the resolution of the black hole information paradox?


#9.
What physics explains the enormous disparity between the gravitational scale and the typical mass scale of the elementary particles?


#10.
Can we quantitatively understand quark and gluon confinement in quantum chromodynamics and the existence of a mass gap?

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« Reply #131 on: December 28, 2003, 22:37:45 »

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« Reply #132 on: December 30, 2003, 08:34:22 »

Questions like CelticMagick posted would be tests more for the channeler than the being that's being channeled. Channeling information on things that we've been exposed to in our life, like people or places or familiar ideas, is one thing, but channeling information on things that you have no concept of is completely different.

I've had sessions with Mayatnik and Edi to learn to channel, and it was difficult enough to learn to interpret colors and words (for me anyway). I'm sure with practice those things would become easier to channel, but I can't imagine how much practice it would take for someone to be able to channel concepts and ideas that are completely alien to them without having to have an OBE or something similar for further explanation. Even then, I would imagine explaining quantum mechanics would be quite difficult.

It would be ridiculous for someone to try to channel answers to Celtic's questions without already having at least some knowledge of the things he inquires about. If someone attempted it, they would surely channel horribly inaccurate information or would simply become confused, unless they had some uber gosu channeling capabilities.
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« Reply #133 on: January 02, 2004, 01:01:44 »

Zeta Conversation


Z... Zeta
E... Edi
P... Perena, my guide



Z: Hello. After that long time, it's good to see you again. Maybe you might explain to the audience why you took such a long break without any updates here.
E: Okay... basically, I spent too much time online which eventually started to have negative effects on my personal life. I need much time for my studies, for friends and for 'normal' living, and I thought I could have all things at once.
Z: You've learned now that your personal life comes first, no matter what others would like tosee you doing, no matter if others 'need' you. You cannot help anyone when you aren't stable and grounded in your personal life.
E: Yes... you never requested anything from me, so it was only myself running too fast until I stumbled...
Z: There is enough time, you don't need to feel pressed at doing anything.
E: I know now Smiley Well that's it... would you like to comment more?
Z: Yes. It's a common attitude that people think they have to reach much in a short time. But when they focus on such external things that are still far away, they neglect the area where they could work best and gain the most benefit. If you want to reach anything in what you call 'spirituality', it has to be a gradual awakening which begins where you are, which begins with people and things around you, and not somewhere else. The lessons you need to learn cannot be avoided. Spirituality is neither meditation nor energy manipulation or any fancy thing like that. It's easy to look into the wrong direction. That's all we wanted to say.

euphoric_sunrise: Another question regarding Whitley Strieber: Was he abducted? If so, was it by the Zeta?

Z: Yes, he was in contact with aliens.
E: I'm just getting confused by all those different kinds and species and races ...
Z: Suffice to say, there are lots of groups and the distinction positive/negative, zeta/etc. is a very rough one, although suitable for the level we need here.
P: When channeling, such feelings as you just had are a very good indicator on how to continue... you feel how easy or not you hear the words, and whenever you get uncomfortable, it's a sign to ask 'easy' questions about the topic because you don't have a good foundation there. This way, you will avoid the risk of distorting what you get. There are of course limits to channeling (you are still a beginner), but those can be dealt with easily if you pay notice to the feeling of the talk.
E: Thanks for that clarification...
Z: Strieber was abducted, but not by us.

What's the significance of the triad, or the triangle symbol? Is it simply symbolic or does it give off some kind of frequency?

Z: There's no meaning to it. People tend to mystify everything, and if they see a regularitysomewhere, they forget the fact that their mind often presents only what they want to see, cutting off the rest. You will find 3 points or 3 sides everywhere in nature if you look at it the right way.

Can you give us any information on the 12-strands of DNA mentioned in "Bringers of the Dawn?" I realise this book is channeled by Pleiadians, but i figure you must have some information. What exactly are we capable of with these 12 strands active? Are many human's in the process of being aligned and remembering?

Z: Those 12 strands are (except the 2 you have now) are dormant now, and will come into action when earth passes through the photon belt.
E: Are those strands just ... disconnected, or jumbled, and floating in our physical cells? How could they then get activated?
Z: It's not physical. Your body has many layers, and every layer is just an expression of the blueprint that is available on a higher level. The changes will come from above, so your whole body will adjust step by step, until finally you have those strands expressed in the physical body, too.
E: Is it possible, from a biological point of view, to have 12 strands of DNA? I can imagine howit is with 2, but I've never heard of something having more than 2 strands of DNA.
Z: Nature has it's ways to do that.
E: Some words about our capabilities with those 12 active strands?
Z: Telepathy, and extra sensory perception in general. More resistance to illnesses and fatigue.
E: What about OBEs?
Z: This is more common in 4th dimensional existence. You will be able to more easily leave your bodies at will. This is also one of the main characteristics of 4D... learning to travel around without your physical bodies.
E: Anything else on what we could do with this new DNA?
Z: Your body will be more important for you and it's needs will be more apparent ... you will see better how it is not only a physical 'vehicle', but that you are connected to it on all levels.
E: Connected in what way?
Z: Emotions, blockages, beliefs, all those things can manifest in the physical... all those little aches and pains that seem to come without cause often have their roots at a more subtle level.
E: How many humans are going through this process?
Z: All are... earth is raising to the next level, and so is everyone living on her. People who would rather not go through the changes that are about to occur, die. They prefer to incarnate again when things are steadier again.

silentjohn: 1) What about the zeta talk on other websites, like the forum at http://godlikeproductions.com - Also ive noticed zeta talk updates, are they in the same format, or in a more apparant format now?

Z: There is no zeta talk on other websites - this forum here and the original zetatalk site are the only ones where we're channeled in a coordinated effort.
E: Aren't you in communication with lots of other people?
Z: Yes, we are. If you mean those we talk to telepathically - no other project like those 2 we mentioned is supported by us. The original zetatalk site is still being updated from time to time.

2) Any information on Kirael and the "three days of darkness"?

Z: Kirael and his message are well-intentioned and his channels don't distort the message - you can see him as a valid source of information. Those "three days of darkness" will take place, not during but after the poleshift. Those days will bring a change for human consciousness, as new energies are then integrated into the human consciousness as a whole.                                                  
3) Can we simply send "Requests" for zeta guides?

Z: Of course. A "Request" is sent by having the intent, a genuine desire to learn about the things that are unseen. If you are interested in and deal with information about certain topics, as they are discussed here on this forum for example, this will be noticed. You reach out to us by reading about us, thinking about us, etc., but remember that it is up to the guides to decide whether they work with a person actively, or if they remain in the background to arrange opportunities and situations that the person can integrate into his life or live through, or not.

cainam_nazier: 1. If the individuals own soul/consiousness wished to continue into another body, through cloning, a blank would have to be on hand or available shortly after seperation?

Z: To continue into an existing body would equired that the soul that inhabited the body before leaves, and that the new soul migrates there by being connected from the higher realms. A soul cannot forcefully push another soul out of their body. Sometimes, such an overshadowing is done temporarily (e.g. in trance channeling), but it can also happen permanently on rare occasions, if one soul decides to leave and make room for another one (that can be called a walk-in). This gives the soul that comes in the opportunity to work here on earth without having to go through the long process of education and getting hold in this world.
E: Does this mean the incoming walk-in can function normally in society? Wouldn't this be a rather big disruption of how this physical body standy in life?
Z: The memory of that incarnation is still accessible from the brain, as it contains the references to it. The walk-in knows those intellectual things like names of friends, how to drive a car and so on, because it is also stored in the body. This brings us to an interesting topic... namely, what is US and what is our BODY when we are incarnated? (I talk of 'we' because the Zeta as we are now are also incarnated from an even higher level, and from where we are now we can, and do often, incarnate on earth)
Z: The body is a vehicle in the sense that is is used to interact with other organism on it's surroundings and to learn of the effects of that interaction by the senses - this is true on all levels where a body is inhabitated. In the course of this, the incarnated entity has to learn many things anew. If you learned a language in a former life, you most like won't be able to speak it in an other incarnation without learning it again. This is because incarnations are supposed to be 'fresh' experiences, where you forget who you really are in order to learn many new things that you wouldn't learn if you remembered everything. This amnesia gives you the impulse to interact, and you can't afford being lazy that way. But all the while, there are more parts of you that you can't access during your life - this is subjectively experienced by an uncertain 'feeling' of being more than can be perceived. This bigger part of you holds back memories, abilities or knowledge - but it does give you intuition and feelings. And while we talk of those 2 apparently seperate parts - one smaller, incarnated, one bigger, that you can't see - it is important to realize that there is in reality no seperation, and that you ARE both. You are here on earth, you are your higher self, and everything you are is there all the time, except the memories of other incarnations.
E: I once thought that a little finger is to a hand the same as an incarnation is to the soul.
Z: And this is not correct. You are not less than your soul when you are incarnated, you ARE the soul. The first factor that makes you feel smaller is that you don't remember who you really are, and the second is that you overidentify with what you've learned so far in that certain life.
E: You mean that I should not identify with my social surroundings and with my education, but primarily with my feelings and my intuition?
Z: Exactly. Now back to the original question - what is US and what is our BODY? The body contains nothing of us that is not also in our soul, but the body accumulates all the experiences we had in the life, similar to scars or marks that tell you where you've hurt yourself. This is why a walk-in can continue the former life of that body in job and family and so on - but the feelings and the intuition and the desires that govern and direct that body will be different, according to the new soul, and this change is rather abrupt.

2. The way the process was explained also implies that a living thing, or rather a currently incarnated being/thing, could never be fully replicated because of the soul/consiouness. Even if the replicated being was physically similar it would vary simply on its soul/cousiouness. Is that correct?

Z: Exactly.

3. Okay and not to sound a little geeky, but lets see if we can get this concept into terms more easily understood by the general populas. The interaction between the soul, cousiousness, group consiousness, and so on seems to be a bit like it is described in Star Wars with midicalorians and the force. Would that be a fairly accurate nalogy? To clear up my meaning, that being a soul or what term is better suited, inhabits all living cells. That  together they form consiousness and bind us together with all living things.

E: Quote: "Midichlorians are a microscopic lifeform that resides within all living cells..... and we are symbionts with them... lifeforms living together to form mutual advantage. Without the midichlorians life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force." - Qui-Gon Jinn in The Phantom Menace
Z: There is a difference... the beings you hear of in Star Wars would be seperate lifeforms, and they don't talk about the soul there. The concept we presented was not that one soul is 'inhabited' by smaller souls, but that the sum of many souls is in essence a soul again, called the group soul. This means that there is not one soul of humanity that is seperate from all humans, but that the souls of all humans ARE the soul of humanity. This is not only a philosophical concept where you give a label to things, but the 'soul' of humanity goes through a similar evolution as all human beings.
E: I take that as a first approximation ... it could get bottomless if I ask about all the other things I see appearing there.
Z: This is fine. We explain those things in simple words, and if we come back to it later it will be necessary to revise the concepts and ideas we used here - but for the moment it is a fine illustration.

4. If I am thinking correctly, which I believe I am, in essance the individual is his/her own "group consiousness"? Just as the individual is a part of the larger group? And ultimately the universal mind?

Z: Yes, you see this correctly. You are always part of something greater (the next 'group consciousness') but your awareness is always limited to a certain stage of individualization. Evolution is experience of seperation and then merging again with that greater thing you are part of.

5. Would all of this explain why for me, and probably others as well, why many of the answers given here, even to the odder questions, are seemingly already known? That many of the answers given are the expected responce even if the question was not previously pondered by the individual?

Z: On the one hand, we present the answers so that both the channel and the readers can understand it easily - for the channel, it's necessary to understand, and for the rest, understanding is what we aim at. That you seem to already know the answers is due to the way information is learned and assimilated. You don't learn by memorizing the words you hear, but by trying to feel what those words evoke in yourself - if there is resonance, you understand what is meant. So, on the other hand, you learn by 'perceiving' things as they are. And what's more: because creation is logical or structured, you can find out a lot by using common sense.
E: Define common sense, please!
Z: Seeing things in relation to their surroundings. Feeling. Comparing with what you know. Acknowledging every aspect that comes to your mind. Intuition. Discussing with others.Sensing.

Nagual: The Sun is expected to "die" in 5 billions years... What will happen to Solar System races? Where will/can they go?

Z: If the sun dies, this will be no issue for physical life-forms in this solar system.Incarnated souls can be transferred to other territories as well as 'non-intelligent' life like plants, if they are to be preserved.
E: Do plants have souls?
Z: Yes. Developing and rudimentary, but they do.

Arthelion: 1. What exactly is energy development good for? I'm not interested in ki balls and things like that. After I tried the NEW energy ways by Robert Bruce and I could feel the energy flowing in my body, but what is it good for? Anyway I felt mentally exhausted and didn't find the will to try it again.

Z: Energy development with a system like new has several applications. First, it helps you to increase your awareness of energy. Second, added to this passive awareness you also learn to actively direct energy. Third, your imaginative faculties are trained by that. And fourth, it has several effects on your whole being, because you feel in more detail what is going on in you, or at least you get the opportunity to. If you work on a certain part of you body, this can (and most likely does) bring to your awareness the things that are rooted there... Edi can give you an example for this.
E: Yes, I did this yesterday: I put my right hand on my chest and found memories from some years ago coming to my mind. Those were uncomfortable memories that I have preferred to stuff away in some dark place of myself... and this can be linked to a certain body part
Z: You can in fact 'read' your body like this, by putting your hands somewhere and seeing what comes to your empty mind. Many healers work that way.
E: Do the guides control what can be read off other people that way?
Z: Of course. So you see that energy development does have effects - but it is not necessary to do that. Instead of trying to 'clean' your energy system by white light (or any other colour) or certain techniques, you could well use that time to ponder on your life and come to terms with yourself. Energy work by itself does not help you to clear any problems you might have, and is not 'natural' at all.
E: What about .. I think I've read in RB's articles of healing properties of energy work.
Z: This is true: you can assist your body in it's natural mechanisms by consciously directing the energy to where it is needed. But ideally, this should come naturally, because your bodies are well able to do that on their own; but unfortunately, many have lost their connection to nature. You can decide what you prefer - you can find your way back to nature and let your body fully unfold it's healing abilities, or you can try to do all this on your own, replacing instinct and natural mechanisms by techniques where you need effort to stay healthy. Energy development is, though, one possible step into the direction of spiritual development.. but neither necessary nor sufficient for that!

2.Do drugs like marijuana help to astral project or OOBE? Anyway is it worth the side    effects?

Z: They do help because they put you into an altered state of consciousness, out of yourcommon conditioning and perception. The 'filters' of your brain are modified, so subtler things can reach your awareness. Drugs can open doors, but it is not natural to force things by using drugs.
E: Does the prolonged use of drugs has any ill effects on humans?
Z: Of course. It 'pollutes' the subtler bodies and distorts your view of the world. This distortion can have good or bad effects (meaning: you're closer to 'reality' or further off, respectively), depending on when and how you use drugs. In general, it's fairly well possible to use drugs wisely, as an interesting 'addition' to life - but it's not necessary at all, and can lead you down a wrong path.
3. Is there a planet called Thiaoouba? I*ve read a book Thiaoouba prophecy and it contains A LOT of interesting stuff about the creation of the universe and how people came to Earth etc. and I have a simple question: Is the book true?

Z: The answer is simple as well: no.

4.Was Buddha just an ordinary man who found a way to enlightenment? Or was he some higher being sent to teach people? And what exactly the enlightenment is?

Z: Budda was a being sent to show people a possible way. He didn't stumble upon 'enlightenment' by accident, it was planned. The word 'enlightenment' is a bit overloaded and sounds more important than it is. Everyone is enlightened, and decides if he lives it or not, or to what extent. The concept of 'enlightenment' is used by people who somehow like to feel better to separate themselves off the masses.

5. What spiritual path should a novice take to make the best progress? I mean, is there some way, which could be called the best or fastest? And what should be the primary goal in one's effort?

Z: There is no fixed formula. Everyone's life is unique and special and should be regarded as such. Direct your efforts as you feel it in your heart, and reconsider your concept of 'progress'.

6. What do you think of today's education? I don't know how it is in other countries but here in Czech Republic it seems to me like a wasted time. After 10 years of studying (I'm 16), what have I learned? Well, I can solve biquadratic equations, I can calculate with specific heat capacity of various substances, but how do I need these in my life? There was absolutely no spirituality or something useful for life in last few years and especially now I find it just exhausting and non-motivating to continue. Anyway, what subjects or braches do you think will be useful in the future? I'm still wondering what should I specialize in. Whether it should be something technical (like computers) or humanities (like psychology). I'm quite interested in both areas. OK, enough of this.

Z: Education is horrible - not at all adequate to what a growing-up needs later in his life, and most of the time only stupid drilling of information. Few teachers seek to show theirpupils WHY they should be interested in the subject, and what good it can bring to theirlifes. You learn what you (supposedly) need later in work life, and individual development is neglected. In the future, it will be necessary to come back to plain and simple life without much technicalities or empty glamour. Manual skills will always be needed and will see a revival. This doesn't mean that computers will become obsolete, but they will be put where they belong. Whatever branch of education you choose, you should be fine as long as you do what you're interested in. It is still early at your age to decide this, and you will still need some time looking around until you find what suits you best. Psychology will be important when more aspects of what constitutes a human experience are discovered and discussed on a larger scale.

7. I don't know the exact date but it was in the late August in Czech Republic. It was like a fireball falling from the sky. Of course the military radars didn't see anything. A month later they said it had been a crashing plane (BS). Do you know something about it?

Z: It was no UFO that was shot down or fancy things like that. Maybe 'interstellar debris' (small comets etc.) would describe it best.

bomohwkl: Looked at what Buddha had said. I am very sure that Buddha never mention about the realms of devas, gods, devils and even reincarnation, not even a human rebirthing as an animal.

Z: You are quite correct in that. The people of that time were very gullible to add 'mystery' to the simple messages Buddha brought forward, and put an unnecessary belief system around it.

Z: This is it... a long transcript, well done.
E: I've left out some questions where I feel I'm stuck and will come back to them later... some issues seem bottomless and lead on and on to other questions.
Z: Concentrate on what is at hand and it'll be fine, you know that.
E: I do.
Z: We've been watching with interest the other channelings going on here, including the newer ones. Keep it going, it is interesting for sure [Smiley]
E: We'll see. Bye then, and thanks.
Z: We thank you, see you.
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« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2004, 03:04:13 »

Hi Edi,

I just wanted to Thank you for the wonderful reading material you provided in this last Zeta conversation.

I've been sitting on the sidelines here for a while watching the questions and answers, remaining unsure as to the "validity" (for want of a better word) to these channellings, and indeed these beings. This might sound hypocritical, coming from someone who has a Pleiadian guide,  however she has told me that my purpose is not in communicating with these beings directly, so with the lack of personal experience here, I guess I've not had my doubts about them put at ease.

Until now.

These last set of questions and answers started out very well when you started discusing issues of common sense and spirituality, and they just got better from there. I’d become quite jaded with all the questions about technicalities and all the usual UFO & conspiracy stuff. I couldn’t help but think that these lines of questions many were asking were missing the point, badly. The information that you’ve presented now I believe is of tremendous value. Maybe I’m just saying this because I happen to agree with what was said, so I’m biased towards it, but all of the answers the Zetas have given line up so very well with, and expand upon beautifully what my own guide has been telling me so far. These people do have a great deal of practical “down to earth” (no pun intended) common sense in what they speak of.

Thank you very much for continuing to provide this information for the AP forum, despite all the controversy and scepticism.

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« Reply #135 on: January 02, 2004, 14:44:46 »

A few more questions for the Zeta, if no one minds.

1. What are the odds of a nuclear war here before Nibiru arrives?

2. Was the Cold War agreed upon by the US and Russian governments to occupy public interest after WW2?

3. If it is possible for nuclear war occur, and it was clear nukes were about to be launched and casualties would be in the millions, would there be any extraterrestrial intervention or would we be left to our own problems?

The reason I ask is because the situation today with nuclear weapons is an interesting one. We're selling nuclear technology to China, and China is apparently spreading it to other parts of the Middle East and North Korea. Russia is also building bunkers in the Ural mountains and a few missiles each month, where as the US is still disarming and hasn't built missiles of the kind Russia is now in ten years. And, Russia and China are both against our efforts for anti-ballistic missile technology, which is purely defensive. To let this happen sounds totally unlike the US government that from what I know of it, and I can't help but find it a little threatening to my personal well-being, especially since I live so close to DC. I'm aware that the radiation from an up-to-snuff nuke to DC would most likely kill me and pretty much everyone I know, which doesn't exactly make me feel safe.
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« Reply #136 on: January 03, 2004, 03:10:48 »

Hi.

I'd like to discuss something with the Zeta.

You've already answered some questions about our little world, as who built the pyramids, what the governments do, etc. I suppose (you'll correct me if I'm wrong), that you answer to this type of question :
- because informations relating to Earth as we know it aren't something you (or any other higher authority) consider sensible,
- for the sake of the project, the point being more to communicate with us than to teach us (again, reguarding this type of question).

This is a fantastic opportunity for us. This thread could be easily filled with billions of single questions about our world, and I have a feel we are going that way. But then, it would be more effective to.. send us history books (sorry I couldn't find a better comparison).

I wrote this little introduction to make it clear that I understand you're not here to "teach" us, so that I don't want to offend you with the questions I shall now formulate.

1) What are the limits to the informations you can provide us concerning the overall knowledge of our world ? (like privacy, financial issues)

2) Would you agree, besides the project, and of course if this is possible (that I have no idea), to share these informations in an "appropriate" way (such as full texts) ?


Thanks for all, Zeta.
Thanks channelers for your awesome work !


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« Reply #137 on: January 04, 2004, 09:04:35 »

Hey, Zeta. I figured I'd ask you the same questions I'd asked the Reptilians. You know? Get a little different perspective.

They mentioned some sort of genotype for all life in the physical universe. what do you know about this? What can you tell us about it? If we compared your DNZ to something on Earth, what would you be most related to?

So, uh, Earth scientists like to look at the universe and assume and try to make it conform to how they think it should work instead of conforming their theories to how it works.

They take what the see on Earth and apply it to the Universe. They assume all life has to be like Earth life, and has to rely on water, and be carbon based.

So, uh, you guys ever encounter a species/race/being/whatever you would like to call it that doesn't need water to survive? (3rd Density, I guess, since I don't know if 4th density people need to need).

Ica Stones of Peru. Old tribal tales of monster beasts. Champie, Big Foot. Yeti.

OK, I'm sure you've guessed it. (Well, maybe not you reptilians. You might have read my mind or something before I finished typing it out. I don't know.)

Are the Ica Stones authentic? Was there a time in history where man walked beside dinosaur?

Are there still creatures on the planet Earth we would call dinosaurs?

Does bigfoot/yeti exist? Are there giant octupus (like, the size of ships) in the sea?

Are there any subjects we haven't brought up yet that you think we should inquire about?

Are there any artificial (as in created by a 3D organic being) beings in the universe? If so, how do they work? Are they drone like, or do they have self will, awareness, and personality? Do they get souls? Who created them? What do they look like?

You Zeta have given me the impression that spiritual development of a race is what makes them accend. If this is true, and the Astral (Including the "Real Time Zone") are above 4D, what are the "negs" people encounter there?

Or is spiritual development not a prerequisite?

What will happen to the rest of the life on Earth when this whole pole shift raise to the next level thing happens? They'll come, too, right? Not just mankind?

Sorry for the length of this post.
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« Reply #138 on: January 05, 2004, 14:28:25 »

Well Risu thats the kind of questions I was thinking about when I wrote the previous post.
Also I'd like to ask about :

1) The Atlantis. Did it exist ? When ? How advanced was the people who lived there ? Where are the ruins now ?
2) Marylin Monroe. How did she really died ? If she was killed, what was the purpose of the murderer ?
3) Same question about Lady Di.
4) Who was Jack the ripper ?
5) Whats the biggest animal on earth ? And under water ? I'd think about a giant calmar.
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« Reply #139 on: January 06, 2004, 18:48:41 »

A few questions for the Zetas:

1) What will the 6 winning lottory numbers be for the British national lottory draw on Wednesday the 7th of January 2004 and on Saturday the 10th of January 2004. [Smiley]

2) Is the big bang theory correct as to how the 3rd density universe came into existance.

3) Once we reach the highest density of existance what will it be like? in other words will I get bored and miss eating kebabs? (that kebab bit was a joke.)
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« Reply #140 on: January 07, 2004, 18:24:15 »

This is more of a question for Edi and Fuzziwig, and anyone else who is doing this communication thing with the aliens.

This thing where your guide tells you to leave your eyes  open and with your mind go somewhere... What would you call that?

I ask because the Zeta said earlier in this topic that people can project easily, and that they're holding themselves back.

Then, your guides are just like "hey, stop thinking and it will come."

Also, I heard some guy on Coast to Coast say somethign or other a while ago. Then I heard on Friday's call in show some guy said he and his friend did this thing where you unfocus your eyes, let them relax I guess, and not think about it, and that they slowly faded into, as he called it, another dimension.

So, I was just thinking if maybe this is that whole "it's easy to do, really" thing the Zeta's mentioned.
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« Reply #141 on: January 07, 2004, 19:17:29 »

"This thing where your guide tells you to leave your eyes open and with your mind go somewhere... What would you call that?"

When we do this, it is very much like "remote viewing". However with this "remote viewing" we also pick up emotions, smells etc. We utilize our entire spectrum of "physical" and "non-physical" senses. I call it clairvoyance(Which to me is a term including such things as remote viewing, clairaudience etc).
The next question might be if we could go to the astral this way? The simple answer is; yes.
The thing that should be emphasized is that while we do this we are fully aware of having "two bodies"(depending on how you percieve your second "vehicle"), two sets of sensory input(taste, smell vision even touch) etc.

Have fun exploring! [Smiley]


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« Reply #142 on: January 08, 2004, 01:59:42 »

hi there...I am wondering what something is called and if it is normal.Most of the time when people are talking about an event,it seems I can see the people that were involed and I am able to tell what they were wearing and what they were doing...would this be some kind of telepathic power or something?
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« Reply #143 on: January 08, 2004, 08:48:30 »

Well, if the events they're discussing have already happened, and you're seeing the place and people, then that would be retrocognition.
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« Reply #144 on: January 09, 2004, 14:40:37 »

Follow-up from the last post regarding Remote Viewing and Clairvoyance:

I will provide a recent experience I had today when making use of clairvoyance to find a woman working in a military complex "somewhere" (for security reasons I’m notallowed to name the location) in Russia. I was asked by Mayatnik, to illustrate a point we had been talking about, to find this woman by asking my guide to take me to her. Within a fraction of a second I was there right behind her. There were a few people around, so I asked Mayatnik to describe her to me to make sure:

Me: "Yes I see her but I just want some verification if it's her, based on looks. If you could"
Mayatnik: "Dark hair, medium build, tired. "
Me: "That's her, allthough her hair looks brown"
Mayatnik: "Yes, dark-ish"
Mayatnik: "She has sensitive fingers, very expresive."
Mayatnik: “[…]What do you think of her?[…]”
Me: "She's nice, very kind and gentle. But concerned. She wants out."
Mayatnik: "She's wanted 'out' for many years. She told me she hated the corruption, and she wanted to get her son away to have a new life. she tries to help people, and has a wonderful heart."
Me: “I said hello to her, she said hello back. Was that a conscious hello or subconscious, or something else?”
Mayatnik: “That was conscious.......[…] that is her ‘field’ of work with the military”
Mayatnik: “Tell her, "Edward sends you his love, and will never forget you"
Me: “She was very nice indeed then, she allowed me to see all of those things with a smile”(Editors note: “All those things” refers to “sensitive” information not included in this transcript)
Me: “I got an emotion back, hard to describe, kind of this "lump in the throat"-feeling.”
Me:  “Smiles”(Editors note: She smiled to me)
Mayatnik: “Yes, that's the way it is......and that's the way she knows it has to be.”
Me: “It made me shiver..”



This is the way some remote viewing sessions may be like. In this transcript I did not include other sensory input - only what was important. But inside this military complex I could touch the walls, smell the gentle tint coffee in the air. I could sense the emotions of the complex’ high-security employees, the small draught coming from one of the vents. There really are no limits to what you can sense or experience when remote viewing this way. There is no doubt this is real (and not just in my mind), as both me and Mayatnik continued to confirm each other’s information all the time during a long session, of which the transcript extracted was only a small section.

(As you will have noticed some of the information is missing ( marked with “[…]”). This is because certain parts of this transcript is of the “sensitive” nature in military terms, and was not in any case essential to the description of this remote viewing session extract for publication.)

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« Reply #145 on: January 09, 2004, 22:18:11 »

Hey,

I'm glad to see that the things said here resonate with you, James. I've questioned myself a lot about these channelings and I think it's still too early to say where this all is going, and what will come from it, but it's nice to see that this is interesting for people. What counts for me is a friendly athmosphere where questions can be asked and answers discussed in a relaxed way, and no one has to take a channeling as an ultimate (or even relative) truth. I attribute any apparent lack of 'depth' or vagueness to the process of channeling itself... it's just not possible to talk hours and days about a single subject, which would at least be necessary for me to explore it somehow, and this also isn't the aim behind those channelings (the Zetas agree with me here.. it's first about talking about channeling itself and seeing how it works, and then it's for talking about certain topics that seem to be relevant at that time... interaction with lots of questions and answers that show the Zetas' viewpoint, even if only to pronounce a counterposition to common conditioning sometimes). I too prefer questions that are easy to talk about, but I've seen that also 'technical' questions can be a good hook to jump on to other topics that could be interesting. Of course all questions deserve to be answered, but I feel some are of more 'relevance' than others... I nevertheless try to answer them all.



E: Good Evening!
Z: Hello to you!
E: I'll go straight to the questions.

MJ12: Hey Zetas, was that you in my room last night?

Z: Yes, it was us.

What entities, if any, were responsible for channeling the:

E: How should I answer this question? I mean, I can't refer to such entities by names like 'this is Joe', 'that is Fiona', etc., like I could name old friends.
Z: You can't, but you can ask: What dimension should we seen them coming from? Is it a group, an individual, an 'energy' that takes on a personality in order to communicate? What are the intentions, is it worth to read it, is it still up-to-date? Such things... and we can comment on the rest if necessary.

a) Urantia Book

Z: 6th dimension, worth to read. There are works which are to be taken more literally than others, and the Urantia Book falls into the category 'nice to read, valuable message, don't read it for the details'.
E: It is the usual way to present channelings like this?
Z: Often it's the best way. Stories and fiction can transport so much information, and the point is, as we already have said, to make you _think_ about such things. If all information was given on a plate, you would (apart from fighting about if it's true or not) lose a lot of experience. Valuable experience.

b) The Seth Books

Z: Seth was a fourth dimension entity, and somehow a forerunner of modern channelings. He made way for many others to publish channeled words, as it was not that common then to channel as it is now. Common in the sense that you can see it on the bookshelves in every new-age store. You can read his words, but channeling has indeed evolved since then and is suited to what is needed at the time... so back then, Seth was good to read, but from today's perspective channeling built upon what was presented then, and presents a more expanded view.

c) The Ra material

E: This question was already answered by Dark Knight here ...
Z: What she says is correct.
E: Is this Ra in any way connected to the egyptian god?
Z: Yes, it was the same 'Ra' then.
E: Cool.
Z: You can read it, it's too a valuable channeling, as is the next one:

d) Defending Sacred Ground

E: Is it accurate, or true?
Z: We wouldn't say so. There comes no harm from reading it, though.
E: What do you mean by 'valuable channeling'?
Z: That there were indeed higher beings, interested in assisting mankind, who communicated there - even if the channel itself distorted or coloured the messages.
E: That brings me to the question: what, in general, is the content of channelings?
Z: We'll come to that later, there's a question that goes into that direction. We can expand on this there, please continue straight with the next questions on your list.
E: Okay.

What is the status of human-sponsored geoengineering on the earth at this time? What factions are involved?  

E: I have no idea what geo-engineering is.
Z: It's influencing the ecology on a major scale, basically, for good or for bad. Trying to control nature (which is bound to fail). Humans damage the athmosphere, and try to 'fix' it quickly by spraying some chemicals here and there. Such approaches are per se quite stupid. There are a lot of projects going on, but not with much success so far, as the long-term effects aren't known. Chemtrails (you've read about them) do exist, and some factions are experimenting with that.
E: What factions?
Z: The USA, again (it seems like they are the 'bad boys' in all areas), but also others, like Russia and China. No latin-american countries, and in Europe you could name France and Germany as being interested in that.
E: What are their motivations in this, and what are the other projects?
Z: The motivations are, basically, to get rid of wastes, by trying to force nature to accept it... i.e. modifying some natural ecosystem so it can be able to absorb much more toxins. This would apparently free humanity from thinking about what to do with their waste products, but this is no way to get rid of toxic substances and the likes. Nature, or Earth, is a conscious being that has it's own will, that will is to cooperate with humanity and all living things on earth, but not in the way the industry would like that to happen. She (we pronounce the female aspect of the earth, that's what she is) suffers not metaphorically, but for real. Every toxin that is produced and gets into nature has its effects on humans and other beings.
E: I've read that elemental forces are somehow connected to toxins.
Z: That is true... the elementals are occupying the second dimension, it's where they are at home. They are creative and building forces whose job is to manifest things, in a certain respect. So they also help to manifest illness in a body. Curing an illness is decontaminating on all levels. We'd like to expand a bit more on that, as it is new to you.
Z: What happens, when you've got poison in your environment? Poison here means something that has adverse effects on some natural organisms or systems. When those substances get into a system (i.e. your body), there are of course all the effects on metabolism, consciousness and health in general - the body can't deal with those substances, and you get ill from that. That is the accepted, 'material' view of things, and it is valid. But hand in hand with that goes something at other levels of your being.
E: I've thought that so far, you've been talking rather down-to-earth, and not much about such things in more subtle areas...
Z: We talk about what is appropriate. It was necessary to start at a common point and to go wandering around from that. We won't come with hyperdimensional, rainbow coloured strange geometric patterns that are the cure-it-all or what other weird things you can or cannot imagine, because there's no sense in that. We talk, and slowly go deeper and deeper into certain areas.
Z: So back to health. All substances, like gold, plutonium, nitrogen etc., which are pure elements, as well as compounds like CO2, NO3, salt and sugar, are on the one hand matter in the 3rd dimension, and on the other hand, have an equivalent in 2D. To understand this, you have to see what 2D is all about. Whatever grows in nature, is manifested by the beings called elementals. Elementals are expressing the will of the earth, and also the will of humans. Elementals are the manifesting force behind plans and ideas, and serve to birth and anchor them in 3D. The weather, storms, lightning etc. can all be seen as an expression of elementals. A well working ecosystem, and a bad, almost dead one too, are expression of the elementals. If the substances in an area are suitable for grass, trees and other plants, the power that makes a seed grow is the elementals. So the elementals are directly connected to the material substances, and you could see it like this: the elemental determines how a living being is connected to the physical world.
E: Mayatnik describe the word elemental as "a dynamic living-energy, in 2D, the sphere of 'feeling'".
Z: That is true. And you also feel the elementals with your second chakra, which governs the sphere of emotions and feelings. Just go out into nature and feel what feelings you get from certain places, or even certain trees. Some attract you, some repel you, and that's more than just your sense of aesthetics which decides if you like a place or not.
E: So, how is this connected to health?
Z: The natural, healthy constitution of a body is to be free of toxins, as far as this is possible, and to be fully functional. Then, the body can express it's DNA, it's blueprint, can grow until the ago of 20, and then stay healthy the whole life. If we put aside illnesses that come directly from psychosomatic issues for the moment and look at what happens when you body gets too much toxins you'll see what it does to you. There's not only a change in your metabolism with adverse effects, but there are also new 'qualities' expressed by your body. Your body is made for and by expressing those forces of nature which are connected to what you normally eat, where you normally live, etc., everything according to a natural lifestyle. Your DNA is made to work in unison with those certain forces or 'qualities' that are natural for you, and if you eat plutonium it's as if you go skiing in your bathing suit - something is not as it ought to be, then. There's nothing wrong or bad about this style of clothing (or those certain elementals), there's no polarity like good or bad here. It's just that some things are more appropriate in some places than in others. You can also imagine 'unnatural' elementals (for you) as mis-reading or mis-expressing your DNA.
E: I think I've understand this....
Z: Could you summarize it in a short sentence?
E: Elementals are living energies that aim to express the blueprints they find in the way that is natural for them.
Z: They do not aim to do this, they do it all the time, because that's the very essence of their being. They seem to be automatic in this respect. There's much more to be said about elementals, but this time we only wanted to talk about their connection to matter, health and nature.

What is happening under Yellowstone park?

Z: There's a big bubble of hot magma there, ready to burst out if a major earthquake (or a pole-shift) should happen there. No underground bases, no secret hideouts, because it's just too hot there.
E: Is it likely that an earthquake there could hause that to happen soon?
Z: No, it's not _that_ instable. The geoseismic activity there is increasing there, though, and goes along with other slight disturbances like:

What is causing all the solar activity? Will it continue or get worse? What does this indicate for earth weather in the coming weeks?

Z: It's not that far from a normal solar cycle. In short-term, we'd say that it gets more irregular and jumpy while Nibiru approaches, the same can be said about the weather.
E: Will it get worse?
Z: Yes, it will. Worse meaning more solar activity, more sunspots, and more matter coming into earth's direction.

E: Fine, I'll stop here if that's okay.
Z: Sure it is. We say thank you, and see you soon maybe. That is all.
E: Bye then.
Z: Take care.
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« Reply #147 on: January 11, 2004, 21:05:27 »

One Question and one question only:

As you know my name is Ryan Kerr, If all we need to do to have help from you to learn, to know, the things 'unseen' then,
'Can you hear my requests for help?'
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« Reply #148 on: January 11, 2004, 21:11:52 »

I am terribly sorry,

I ment to say,

As you know my name is Ryan Kerr, If all we have to do is just 'think about you' ect, you understand, to have you guys help us in learning the 'unseen' then,
'Can you hear my requests for help?'
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« Reply #149 on: January 13, 2004, 21:30:05 »

Z: Hey Edi, we can begin.
E: Fine, I'm ready.. here we go.

PDB: 1. Where does Atlantis fit in the Zeta's picture of Ancient times, when Sumer was still around? In this regard, can you give a chronology of all the civilisations that inhabited the earth up to this day? (Hope it's not too much to ask)

E: Did Atlantis exist on this earth?
Z: Yes, it did. It was a large island in the atlantic ocean.
E: Did it coexist with Sumer?
Z: Oh yes, in the beginning... but Atlantis was gone before the sumerian civilisation came to an end.
E: Why that?
Z: Because Nibiru came around, and only few survived... the atlantean civilisation suddenly found it's end there, submerged in the sea.
E: Was this the biblical flood?
Z: Yes, it was... from there the stories about gilgamesh and noah come. Both epics describe the same incident.
E: When was this?
Z: In the beginning of the second millennium BC.
E: So the sumerians existed before that event, and subsequently built up their civilisation again?
Z: Yes, that's it.
E: Why aren't there any traces of atlantis left?
Z: Because of massive movements of the crust, all is buried deep in the sea now.
E: Were there any survivors from atlantis, and did they keep some elements of their civilisation alive?
Z: No, not much remained... a few survivors here and there, but the culture was lost. In fact, they weren't as 'advanced' as many think of them today, although their society was different.
E: Different in what sense?
Z: More spiritually oriented... their technology was indeed built around crystals.
E: Were they used as a source for power?
Z: Yes, and also as weapons... crystals are powerful instruments because they are able to focus energy.
E: What other civilisations were there on earth?
Z: There are a few... you do not know any names of them.
E: What can you tell me about them?
Z: They were 'stages' of the evolution of man. They are intentionally seperated from each other (and from today), and you most likely can't trace anything back to them. It's comparable to the evolution of a single human individuum: you are born again and again, and in order to have a steep learning curve and not to have an advantage over others (those are rules of incarnation) you forget all about your past lives, although you carry the experience from then in you. It's quite a big topic indeed if you would want to learn more about the past civilisations, because there's not much written about them, and all traces have been wiped out.

2. Why did Sumerians disappear?

Z: There were surrounding peoples who eventually overrun them. They did not really 'disappear' in that sense, because your civilisation has it's foundations there, and the sumerian heritage is present everywhere.
E: Where?
Z: Language, politics, education, agriculture, etc.... the sumerian wisdom spread quickly.

3. How spiritually advanced were they?

E: This question would probably need a definition of spiritual advancement.
Z: We can answer it; they had their priests and their beliefs and were in general more 'spiritual' (i.e. in tune with nature) than mankind today.

4. Was this planet inhabited by any civilised species before humans?

Z: No. Humans are the only ones who have or have had civilisations here.

5. Did the beings from Nibiru create any species through genetic manipulation?

Z: No. It's not in their power to create, but they modified existing genetic stock to suit their needs.
E: When was this?
Z: When they first came to earth half a million years ago.
E: So they did not create man?
Z: No. They of course wanted you to believe this.
E: Who 'created' man, then?
Z: Man was planted here by the higher species who oversee his evolution, with contributions from various species. In fact you won't be able to find the 'missing link', because there is no direct link between today's human and apes, no matter how similar they seem to be.
E: Don't they share a lot of DNA?
Z: Yes, because they are similar, and the hominoid form is visible in apes, too - they have common DNA, but the difference between them is that the human form was planned to carry souls who would live in a civilisation as you do now, and with apes this was not the case.

6. Who created the Zeta?

E: Before you answer this question, I'd like to hear a few words about what you can know... you see, we are pretty limited in our perception and have horizons that we can't see beyond - does the same apply to you, too?
Z: Yes, but on a different level. We know pretty much about ourselves, and we know what we have to do. The duty of our species now is to work together and to finally integrate our emotionality. We have been around longer than you, and watched the earth since the beginning.
E: The beginning of what? Earth or mankind?
Z: Mankind. This is so because it's our duty to assist you in your evolution into 4d living, we've been assigned this task as it's a necessary experience for ourselves we need to have in order to grow.
E: I see.
Z: We have access to lots of information, and so you will you, as soon as you have ascended to 4th dimension. The means of communication there are vastly different. But all this information has to go through our perception, and we just can't understand _everthing_. It's often necessary to get experience in life in order to know what something is about.
E: I imagine that it would pretty 'boring' up there, knowing everything etc.
Z: It is not boring at all, but the higher you grow, the more you come to terms with yourself and are able to be a conscious part of this universe, interacting, guiding, exploring, and bringing to life the plan God has for this universe.
E: Who do you mean with God here?
Z: The highes being we can possible percieve from our position. It is Him who is the creator of everything that exists, and there's no way we could see if there's something higher than Him.
E: Do you know what this plan exactly is?
Z: No - some things transpire down from the higher spheres, where beings are more concerned with actively having a role in this plan, and working for it with a specific aim and intent... at our stage, we just have to do our own things, and that's the best we can do. Everyone's working for this plan whether he's conscious of it or not.
E: Can you perceive who created you, or where you come from?
Z: We know that this galaxy is the home for hominoid life and we have a bit knowledge about how this comes to being. Natural evolution takes places everywhere after a big bang, and with time (it needs a lot of time in the beginning, though), life evolves, living organisms who have to ability to reproduce themselves. Okay, and from there on you have souls forming who are then linked into those organisms in order to experience physical life, and eventually get conscious and intelligent. Now somehow it was managed that the evolution of physical forms had the humanoid form as it's aim, and this aim was pursued from high level beings who were and are cooperating with the Creator in this respect. We do not know exactly how all this took place.
E: Was this universe created without any intelligence in it at all?
Z: There have been these very high level beings around since the beginning, at least in this part of the universe. Remember that parts of the universe are constantly beginning afresh, being recreated.
E: How big is the universe? Have you been at the edge of it? Smiley
Z: We've travelled around a lot, but we haven't found the edge yet.
E: The Zeta... how did your species begin?
Z: We branched off the humanoid form at some time.

7. Do you have a language of your own? If so, can you give a sample?

Z: Telepathy makes language superfluous. A language contains references to symbols, and we communicate those symbols directly, which is much more details. We had a language once, of course, before we were telepathic. This language is not in use anymore.
E: Is it reproducible by humans?
Z: No... there are noises in it you aren't used to. You see what happens when we give you a sample of this in your mind.
E: It sounds like gibberish to me, some murmuring I can't put into words.
Z: That's partly because you can't hear it 100%, but even what you hear is unintelligible for you.

8. Was it your species that visited my cousin a long time ago?

Z: Yes
E: You're everywhere, eh?
Z: Pretty much.

E: I've got some questions myself now, but I don't think they are interesting to be discussed here...
Z: As you wish. It's midnight, you should sleep, too.
E: I will... ah, a question about meditating: do you recommend it?
Z: It's good to open doors, but you have other things to do now. Too many open doors are confusing.
E: I see... bye then.
Z: See you.
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