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« on: June 29, 2004, 08:13:58 »

Now that is a true miracle [Cheesy]

I would surely like to project into a thing like that [8D]
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2004, 08:55:40 »

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I would surely like to project into a thing like that [8D]


Might be wise to put your affairs in order first, that much gravity may hold the subtle forms Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2004, 08:55:40 »

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2004, 09:13:58 »

Hm. A giant hole floating around in outer space. Which one of you here taught George Bush how to project?
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2004, 09:34:05 »

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I would surely like to project into a thing like that [8D]


Might be wise to put your affairs in order first, that much gravity may hold the subtle forms Smiley



Well, atleast I would be a singularity then and be eternity [Cheesy]
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2004, 18:10:15 »

Jesus!!! Such a black hole its a very scary thing!

If it is so big maybe its a conection to another dimensional door(temporal and/or spacial)for this or other universe. Maybe its easy to go throw that black hole than the "small" ones.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2004, 19:08:26 »

I read some where that it is a vacuum cleaner for the universe, makes sense to me.[Tongue]

And poor Bush, I hate that all the information you get on the television is sooooooo liberal, it cannot get anymore onesided and the kids these days are doing nothing more than parroting what they see and hear..grrrrrrr..

I like you Bush [Cheesy] I might be the only one here, but eh, I was never one to be scared to be different!

I also give my support to the men and women fighting.  You know what's funny?.  All the kids whom are bragging about fighting demons and such..[Tongue]  Yet when it comes to real fighting.."heck no..I'm not fighting for some stupid reason".. can you say..full of chicken feathers when it comes to REALITY?

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2004, 19:08:36 »

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Hm. A giant hole floating around in outer space. Which one of you here taught George Bush how to project?



Just wait till George Bush declares a "War on ETs".  T standing for both terrorist and terrestial of course.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2004, 01:21:45 »

i make it a point to not like any politician... it's not that hard, actually.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2004, 03:51:52 »

black holes are cool
i wanna go and check that one out....
it could be a doorway to someplace really cool.
or it could just squish you and keep you there for all of eternity
*ponders*
*still wants to check it out*
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2004, 09:03:58 »

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I like you Bush  I might be the only one here, but eh, I was never one to be scared to be different!

I also give my support to the men and women fighting. You know what's funny?. All the kids whom are bragging about fighting demons and such.. Yet when it comes to real fighting.."heck no..I'm not fighting for some stupid reason".. can you say..full of chicken feathers when it comes to REALITY?


Yes . . . I for one would rather fight things of my imagination that fight things that are real *sniffles* is that so hard to understand? hehe.

As for liking Bush, me too. I hear my sister saying that she wants him out, but I don't know. I didn't keep up with everything that happened over the past four years (sleeping, long story), so I don't know exactly my viewpoints . . . I'm long, and I don't care who they elect or reelect . . . by the way, this is off subject, unless . . . yes, the black hole will somehow alter our states of mind and make us all like Bush . . . It's a conspirital black hole . . . RUN FOR COVER

*crowds chanting* WE LIKE BUSH, KILL KERRY (I wanted to put grant here for a second, lol)

Or perhaps it will create anarachy . . . I like anarchy . . . (only in a disillusioned mind such as mine . . . *sighs*)

As for the black hole, I don't understand, really, why they're stumped by it. There's enough stuff out there in the universe for it to suck up, I'm sure. Besides, we really haven't been watching it all this time, so what if there were a lot of things over there that created it to becoming so . . . big?

Looks like we'll have something else to worry about now, though, for the the sun was going to blow up on us, I can't wait to see what happens when the black hole decides to collapes within itself.

I want a supernova . . . and anarchy. To go, please, with a Sprite. Thanks. . .

"Five bucks."

"Five Buck! I'll start my own anarchy for free, then!"

(don't mind me! I'm insane, and loving it.)
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2004, 09:52:23 »

I really like bush too!

Things like a war on iraq even though the war was completely unneccisary.  Didn't they find out later there were no wmds?

Reinstituing the draft.  Another great idea.

Patriot Act.  Gotta love that one.  Snuck that one right by us while most Americans were screaming for blood as expected.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5312
That is interesting, dunno how true it is.

Backing out on the kyoto treaty?  Sounds like a good plan.

As to show appreciation for my adoration of Bush, he's decided to call my friends out to war again even though they've served their time and want no more of this stupid war.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=5&u=/ap/20040629/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_reserve_callup
Excellent call Bush, glad they could help.  (As a side note, if my friend has to go back to iraq and he dies, I'm gunna do something drastic... dunno what... probably just sit in a corner and beat my head against it... but it'll be a DRASTIC headbeating.  That and sending as much negative energy at bush as I can, which is near 0.  It's the thought that counts).

Some of this is probably misinformed, but in general, I just don't like bush that much anyways.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2004, 11:55:01 »

I really do not understand what Bush and a blackhole has in common other than sucks up on material things?!? [:O]
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2004, 18:24:27 »

oh, i'm sure we could find all kinds of paralells between a big black hole and George W. [Smiley]

Personally, i can't even contemplate a space body that large, sucking up everything around it. It makes you REALLY wonder what kind of cool shite God has going on in the background that He needs a galaxy destroyer...
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2004, 19:15:33 »

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(As . . . That and sending as much negative energy at bush as I can, which is near 0.  It's the thought that counts).



lol . . . yes, and if you really think about it, it'll work . . .
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2004, 23:53:00 »

Hi All,
There is also a super-massive black hole in our Galaxy too, although not as big as this one.  It too roams around the galaxy vacuuming up 'stuff'.  Maybe Mr. Hoover should have applied for the Patent Rights, LOL.

I've often wondered if Black Holes are somehow connected to the Star Nurseries that have been discovered all over the place.  The reason for the wondering was to explain where all the energy and mass that is caught in a black hole ends up.  Surely the sigularity cannot be the end of it especially since we now know that energy cannot be destroyed, it is used in other ways.  

While we may like to think we could use black holes for their possible wormhole abilities, what would be the point when nothing we can build will stand up to the physics inside the Hole ?  All the energy absorbed by these things must be returning to the Universe(s) in some form, which is also why I wondered about the Star making areas and where they got their energy and materials from.

About Bush (Shrub), no matter what president you have, the agenda will still be applied.  It seems that we have these Presidents and Prime Ministers now who have connections to the one world order, historically.  So perhaps we really have no choice in the matter, and voting for someone else will only bring more of the same in the background with only a veneer of difference for us to see.

Did you know that Bush and England's Prime Minister have the same Blood-line ?  Hmmm, Interesting.  I would like to know if our Australian Prime Minister is also from the same 'family'.  I would bet a years income that he does.  It would seem relevant that he would be in this time we are in, and the agendas being forced upon us.

But.... We all have to decide if what the US has done in Iraq was a valid thing to do, with the right motivations behind it etc.  I for one do not believe the lies (never have)and see it as part of the process for domination, control of the area that the Annunaki historically return to when their world is within our solar system...which, is something that is due to be happening by the end of this decade if the Sumerian Tablets are to be considered as factual. [Tongue]

Love Always. [Smiley]
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Hey Tay!  Funny that you mention Tony Blair I was just talking to my hubby, saying his name sounded like some Porno king..LOL [Tongue]

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2004, 01:12:27 »

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Surely the sigularity cannot be the end of it especially since we now know that energy cannot be destroyed, it is used in other ways.

The sigularity isn't the end of it:D Stephan hawking showed that black holes essentially "evaporate". Because of quantum uncertainty particles can't make up their mind if they're going faster than light or slower than light so the ones that decide to go faster escape:D Eventually the black hole will lose so much mass that it can't stay a black hole anyone then it violently explodes again just like it did to become a black hole:) You have to love the violence of the universe!

 
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While we may like to think we could use black holes for their possible wormhole abilities, what would be the point when nothing we can build will stand up to the physics inside the Hole ?


They're new theories that have been proposed about "baby universes" (I'm a big fan of stephan hawkings as this is another one of his theories) Black holes can pinch off portions of reality to create a seperate and independant universe which will one day be violently destroyed as the baby universe relinks with the main one Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2004, 02:00:34 »

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The sigularity isn't the end of it:D Stephan hawking showed that black holes essentially "evaporate". Because of quantum uncertainty particles can't make up their mind if they're going faster than light or slower than light so the ones that decide to go faster escape:D Eventually the black hole will lose so much mass that it can't stay a black hole anyone then it violently explodes again just like it did to become a black hole:) You have to love the violence of the universe!

They're new theories that have been proposed about "baby universes" (I'm a big fan of stephan hawkings as this is another one of his theories) Black holes can pinch off portions of reality to create a seperate and independant universe which will one day be violently destroyed as the baby universe relinks with the main one Smiley



Thanks Joshua.  Stephen Hawking really has an exceptional mental capacity for his work and I have enjoyed his layman's descriptions of what he understands about 'everything'.  Even he agrees that all our Physics are no longer relevant at the Singularity, as everything breaks down in ways that we can not understand...because the tool doesn't work anymore.  I thought the evaporation was from the escaping/discharging radiation.

While theories are excellent work brought about by highly intelligent people, they remain theories until proven or not.  Theoretical mathematics shows that there are 11 dimensions, and at the 11th something unusual happens... everything opens up to allow for multi-Universes.  It describes Bubble-verses, millions of them, each co-creating other, newer Universes when their membraneous skins touch.. exciting massive amounts of energy... another Big Bang.  

I would think at these magnitudes of reality things much like Black Holes should exist as equals to the Creating Forces of these Bubbleverses... Mega-Supermassive Black Holey Things.[Cheesy]

If this is the case then Black Holes must also resonate in various dimensional realities.  Perhaps this is how material/energy is restored to the co-creating Bubbleverses ? It's a bit too deep for me, and I can't swim that well.  LOL [Tongue]

Love Always. [Smiley]
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2004, 15:45:42 »

I've read a lot of Hawking myself, and this other guy, Brian Mercer? I can't remember. I think the book was called This Beautiful Universe. Anyway, it is fascinating and quite entertaining to observe scientists, theorists and physicists dig up facts that correlate to metaphysical theory/fact, such as the existense of higher dimensions beyond the 3rd. Magic will be Science one day, and science magic as the lines of disbelief are dissolved.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2004, 22:22:03 »

Science is magic, but we call it science so that we can't be sinners . . . lets do some science!
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2004, 07:28:41 »

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Rare discovery is 10 billion times larger than sun

A team of astronomers have found a colossal black hole so ancient, they're not sure how it had enough time to grow to its current size, about 10 billion times the mass of the sun.

Sitting at the heart of a distant galaxy, the black hole appears to be about 12.7 billion years old, which means it formed just one billion years after the universe began and is one of the oldest supermassive black holes ever known.

The black hole, researchers said, is big enough to hold 1,000 of our own Solar Systems and weighs about as much as all the stars in the Milky Way.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5318411/






    Awe the back bone of the night, The Milky Way! Just as the people in this world fight for their right,,, to be just that!!!?  So as to others, In a different realm???
   
    Ever after we have carried it with us, We have a flame mother to feed the flame so it doesn't die out. Flame is a wonder, useful, surely a gift from powerful beings. As lightning produces fire in a storm. Only the Flame is bright, because it's already produced.

    So this black hole is too big for our understanding? Are we near sighted or far sighted?  Maybe we can't see the details of this black hole until we are upon it? Comparable to death? So not to know its sight until we are there, for a reason.?! With the gravitational influence, it's very noticeable back here on earth. This black hole could contain magnetic pole that has already been here, in a different earth as we know it.??  May the force be with us,,, Complexette[Smiley]
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2004, 07:36:08 »

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Surely the sigularity cannot be the end of it especially since we now know that energy cannot be destroyed, it is used in other ways.

The sigularity isn't the end of it:D Stephan hawking showed that black holes essentially "evaporate". Because of quantum uncertainty particles can't make up their mind if they're going faster than light or slower than light so the ones that decide to go faster escape:D Eventually the black hole will lose so much mass that it can't stay a black hole anyone then it violently explodes again just like it did to become a black hole:) You have to love the violence of the universe!

 
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While we may like to think we could use black holes for their possible wormhole abilities, what would be the point when nothing we can build will stand up to the physics inside the Hole ?


They're new theories that have been proposed about "baby universes" (I'm a big fan of stephan hawkings as this is another one of his theories) Black holes can pinch off portions of reality to create a seperate and independant universe which will one day be violently destroyed as the baby universe relinks with the main one Smiley



Maybe it has to do with all the Hot air we let out!?! As to if the black hole comes our way?!?
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2004, 07:08:42 »

Rare discovery is 10 billion times larger than sun

A team of astronomers have found a colossal black hole so ancient, they're not sure how it had enough time to grow to its current size, about 10 billion times the mass of the sun.

Sitting at the heart of a distant galaxy, the black hole appears to be about 12.7 billion years old, which means it formed just one billion years after the universe began and is one of the oldest supermassive black holes ever known.

The black hole, researchers said, is big enough to hold 1,000 of our own Solar Systems and weighs about as much as all the stars in the Milky Way.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5318411/

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