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« on: May 12, 2004, 13:12:32 »

Hi Tayesin,

Thanks for the thread. It's a fascinating subject. I recall reading that the Mexican sky has had this type of activity before.

Also, you may have noticed that I moved this to our new 'news and media' sub-forum. I hope that's alright with you. It seems like a good topic for this new forum, and we are trying to initiate its use. If you feel otherwise, please pm me and we'll work something out. Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2004, 16:04:30 »

That is interesting!  I was unaware of the UFO wave in Belgium.  You may or may not know that Belgium makes the world's best beer.  I don't know about you, but I feel UFO's certainly aren't in Mexico for the beer.  Perhaps the quality of beer in Mexico will now inexplicably start to improve???  [Wink][Cheesy]

Anyone put the video mentioned in the report on the net yet?  I'd love to see it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2004, 21:25:02 »

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Has anyone put the video mentioned in the report on the net yet?  I'd love to see it.


Here is a link to the video, it's just over an 18MB download, a bit large but it is interesting......

http://www.virtuallystrange.com/ufo/mexico/mexico-03-05-04.mpg

Nick,
Thanks for the move, it is better suited to this sub-heading.

Love Always.[Smiley]

Here is a still image from the fighter's video....

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2004, 09:53:43 »

This is amazing! Mexico has an air force?![:O]

lol

Unfortunately your link will not give me access to the video. This is interesting, thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2004, 11:53:56 »

Drat! The link has been killed - says the account has been suspended.

Silly Govmnt.  :p

Could you email me the file Tay???
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2004, 19:03:53 »

This topic is very interesting.

Ufos waves are not rare in South America countrys: iám wondering if that is so, because there are many poor countrys in S.America; maybe they just want to atract the attention for turists...

Any way, i saw the video (maybe not the entire video) in the news here in Portugal. It is very interesting, and it would be nice to know that they are aliens or the like, but there is always the possibility of being just spy planes (USA; Brit; etc).

Here in Portugal the cases of ufos are somehow rare, but we have some famous ones. We also some nice good investigators, really serious ones, that uses the scientific method to study. The problem is that they cannot be in any tv program: they are some just like some lunatics, crazy people! This is due to the closed mentality (very glued to the Church) of portuguese people. Even the youngs (at my age or less) dont accept the ufo reality. I can count with my finger tips the people that can talk with me about ufos without saying jokes or any bad saying.

Portugal is also famous for Fatima (you know the Third Secret of Fatima, and the little shipyards?...). There are strong evidences, collect by the same scientists that i talk above, that the "miracle" was not a miracle but instead a very close contact with ufos. But this is an extensive topic to talk about it....

Anyway, i am thinking, if ufos are real, what are they waiting for?
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2004, 22:39:41 »

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This is amazing! Mexico has an air force?![:O]

lol




haha!

Yea, NAFTA got them some pretty decent stuff.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2004, 04:47:29 »


Hi,
I'm still trying to get a working link for the video.  Got feelers all over, LOL.  Anyone else had any luck ?  I do not have the mpg of it, so can't send it, sorry.

>>> Just found a 738K Windows Media version at Rense, so here's the link..... http://media.localnews8.com/video/KIFI_UFO_HIGH.wmv

Beer ?  I'd travel for a nice beer, LOL.

LOL @ does Mexico have an air force ?  

This story is of interest primarily for the approach of the Media and Military joining forces to get the story out.  That in itself raises some questions !  

In the last ten  years there has been a growing inundation of video footage from all around the world.  I've seen footage of large ships near the WTC prior to Septemeber 11, miles of stills from Iraq, and everywhere else that many people now own Video Cameras.  To be sure, some of it may well be fake, but many are not.  The local videos I have received at my research desk show up as genuine when tested thouroughly by a friend with access to a tv lab.

To see some for yourself visit.. http://www.rense.com

The sheer number of photographs and videos that have come in these past ten years must make us stop and think something really is happening.  It's happening everywhere, and we need to assess that to decide on what approach we make if and when 'official contact' occurs.  

Do we believe that the governments knew nothing of it until the arrival ?  Are the governments behind it, with no assistance from ET ?  Are they behind it with ET's support ?  The questions are many.

What do you people think ?

Love Always. [Smiley]
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2004, 13:47:20 »

Thanks Tayesin... Great thread!

I believe there have been periods of increased UFO Phenomenon in upstate NY at times.   I saw UFO's on 2 separate occasions  in the mid-late 1980's and in both instances, met people within a month who saw the same object at the same time from a different vantage point and we verified the same experience.  

I used to live near Pine Bush,NY which was considered a "Hot Spot" at the time.  On one occasion, in the paper the next day, they reported that there was a UFO then they later retracted that statement and said it was a military operation.  The one they reported was a triangular object with 3 EXTREMELY bright lights (like stadium lights) that sat in the sky, motionless for over an hour, no noise.  The other was on an overcast day in October when I was driving down a mountain.  The object was sort of football (american football) shaped with a flat top and bottom, little orange blinking lights.  I watched it for a few seconds (maybe 10 seconds) long enough to know I was not dreaming... It moved slightly then sped off at a speed that I could not follow with my eyes.  It was at eye level for me because I was coming sown a mountain.  Later I met a girl who saw the same thing who was below it at the time of the sighting.  


I think our government is just better at covering it up.

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2004, 17:14:38 »

There are ufo waves every 5 years, it´s what says statistics. Generally that means that years ending in 2 or 5 (like 1977,etc) are good for waves.

Why the waves? Why every 5 years) So strange... Our world is rich in a big variety of fantastic phenomenons...

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2004, 23:29:05 »


Hi,
Thanks for sharing your sightings Lighthouse.

Kazbadan,
The are definately cycles of activity.  Where I live we had 930 good sightings the year before last and since then they have decreased again.  Although the sighting reports I get now concern close up sightings and not just lights in the sky.

Every 8 years huge triangle ships come across northern Europe and continue on over France and England.  I have often wondered why it is in an 8 year cycle.  By the way, these triangle ships are thought to be the same as the one that went across the US back in 1997, which was recorded on thousands of videos.

Yes, the governements are very capable of covering up...apparently the cover-up for this latest Mexican sightings has already started.  My bet is the story will just be allowed to die, in the same way it is always allowed for us to forget.

To illustrate this point... back in 1952 Washington DC had a wave for two days after the 'alledged' meetings between five ET races and president Eisenhower.  It was world-wide news at the time.  Photographs shopwing fleets of UFO's still exist from this event, and yet the media was clamped down so that the story could be forgotten.

Many people ask me, "If they are real then why don't they come down and say 'We are here'."  I reply saying that they did back in 1952!!
Here is one pic from the 1952 Washington wave......



I have many more, but to save time and space here I should add them to my own pic galleries at my pages.

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2004, 22:56:23 »

The case will be forget because media dont give to much attention to that. They just think "No one will believe in this story. It is better to show the case one or two times to atract audiences and public; after that it is better to ignore something ridiculous like this, and then jump to more actual and interesting topics"

Thats the thought i suppose.

Medias ignore because is ridiculous, the same for scientists; government ignore because it is ridiculous and dangerous. So, we will only see people talking on ufos when they land in the open, showing up themselves to everyone. Until that day....

What they pretend is something that i would like to know. Why do they do this kind of activities? They seem like they are just playing and making fun of us: since hundreds of years that they act the same way: show up a little and then they disapear.

I think that they know very well that acting like this they are just creating a myth around them. They do this to create an atmosphere of magic and wonder. With wich purpose? Dont know, maybe with that kind of action (and with the objective of wonder our minds) they are just pretending that are more powerful, and so we must fear then and obey then. Maybe i am just getting paranoid...


BTW: why the hell i am just the one that never saw an ufo?! I am highly interested in the matter; sometimes i pratice astronomy, i love to look into the skys and i live in a place with lets say, little luminous polution (if you are an astronomer you know what i am talking about), so saying this: why i never saw an ufo?[V]

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2004, 19:47:00 »

Tayesin, I wonder if those triangular objects you describe are the same type of craft I talked about in the earlier post.  The craft was tremendously HUGE but too high to really tell exactly how big.  The only way one could tell that it was high and huge was the amount of light eminating from those lights and the large area of people who saw it.  

Kazbadan, Perhaps they have always been visiting us and feel they have as much right to visit us as we would have to visit other worlds if we had the technology to do so.  Why the perceptions that it is rediculous or dangerous?  They are all made of the same stuff we are... Spirit.  There are good people and bad people.  I imagine it would be the same for alien races.  I prefer to think of them as a little more advanced than we are both technologically and spiritually.  This would explain why they prefer to observe instead of interfere.  

Here are a few links to show you that this is not a new phenomenon which would explain why it needn't be a rediculous concept or a dangerous one.  When I was in college, one of my professors liked to point out ancient artwork with ufo's depicted in the paintings.  Here are a few links:  http://www.geocities.com/jilaens/renai.htm http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm

This one is from Whitley Streiber who wrote Communion (his alien encounters were not far from where I grew up and we have common friends) http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1112

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2004, 01:56:28 »

Looking at that picture of the fleet beyond the capitol is truly awe-inspiring. Just imagine if our government was completely open with us with these things, as it should be. Imagine what we might know about those mysterious discs that have been popping up in the skies and in art and photos for the past few thousand years, and what we might know about our own position in the universe. Too bad a lot of people that are in good positions to pull strings just want power for themselves.

Some people are predicting civil unrest in 2005 because of a draft of people in their late teens and early 20s. If that's what it would take to wake people up and get them to re-evaluate this corrupted system, I can't wait! I'd like to see a government put in place that releases everything to the people that it's there to represent, care for, govern. That's what governments are for, and that's why we put it there in the first place.

 
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BTW: why the hell i am just the one that never saw an ufo?! I am highly interested in the matter; sometimes i pratice astronomy, i love to look into the skys and i live in a place with lets say, little luminous polution (if you are an astronomer you know what i am talking about), so saying this: why i never saw an ufo?


Maybe since you've already noticed they're out there, they don't have to clue you in any further. [Smiley]
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2004, 22:10:01 »

Hey Tayesin, Lighthouse et al:
Check out www.nancyredstar.com for more info about friendly UFO intervention. I just met Nancy and she's a diligent "runner" carrying info about Star Beings and their desire to help us through these torturous times of disrespect on our blue planet.
Aren't we talking about the definitive, archetypical battle here? The good: people open to this intervention in the interest of the greater good (spirituality) versus the bad: greedy, close-minded people bent on maintaining and gaining more personal power?  
Who will win?
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2004, 03:35:09 »


Hi,
The first time I saw the photo of Washington DC, I nearly fainted.  When I was 10 years old, I had an encounter in broad dayligth with those exact same type of ships.  Everyone I told about them tended to think I was a bit crazy so it was a huge surprise to see them in an original photo showing they have been around for a while here.  Made me feel less crazy.

Lighthouse,
It's hard to say if they are the same ships or not, without actually seeing them.  It wouldn't surprise me if they were though... a few years ago while 'journeying' with my Guides, they showed me a fleet of huge ships on long approach to our Solar System.  I was allowed to glimpse the inside of one ship and saw that they were Carriers, much like our Naval Aircraft Carriers.  What shook me up was realizing that the dark triangle ships being transported inside the Carrier, were the ships that have been reported here, each is massive (around 3 to 6 kilometres in length) which makes the Carrier phenomenally huge.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the huge Object(s)recorded near our Sun for the last few years is the fleet I was shown.  The reason I think this is the Guides informed me that the fleet was coming in from behind the Sun.  That would only work for a few months of the year, so I had a problem with the idea.  Then I noticed how the Object near the Sun is in a steady orbit almost opposed to Earth's, except for the few occassions when it was forced to move to avoid the worst of a massive Solar Flare.  

At the bottom of the page is a still I took from the original SOHO feed during the movements.  And one of the first pics I saw of the object... this was sent as a photocopied page so the image isn't great.

Moontingle,
Hi.  Thanks for the link, I will go see it tonight.
You asked, "Who will win ?"  
Hopefully, our great-great-grandchildren will.

Love Always. [Smiley]




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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2004, 11:35:12 »


Hi,

Since 1991 Mexico has experienced a massive increase in UFO related phenomena, much of it caught on film as stills and video.  Belgium had a similar wave from 1985 until the early 90's !  Again much of it is recorded on film.

The following excerpts came from an Australian UFO research organization's members-only email discussion group.  Many international researchers regularly post in this list, some of who are well known.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004
Mexican Department Of Defense Acknowledge UFOs In Mexico....

http://www.rense.com/general52/deff.htm

"Is this the beginning of the "staged threat from space" that Greer and others have been warning they would be starting soon? Certainly looks that way to me, and what better distraction could there be for Bush and cohorts right now?" UFORQ list question.

"Mexico Air Force video creates UFO stir".....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1106371.htm

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This from the AP:

Las Vegas SUN: Mexican Air Force Pilots Film 11 UFOs

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/2004/may/11/051108004.html

Las Vegas SUN

Today: May 11, 2004 at 15:06:31 PDT

Mexican Air Force Pilots Film 11 UFOs

ASSOCIATED PRESS

MEXICO CITY (AP) -
Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified flying objects in the
skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman
confirmed Tuesday.

A videotape made widely available to the news media on Tuesday shows the bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large
headlights, moving rapidly in what appears to be a late-evening sky.

The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment.
They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters
(11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar.

"Was I afraid? Yes. A little afraid because we were facing something
that had never happened before," said radar operator Lt. German Marin in a taped interview made public Tuesday.

"I couldn't say what it was ... but I think they're completely real,"added Lt. Mario Adrian Vazquez, the infrared equipment operator. Vazquez insisted that there was no way to alter the recorded images.

The plane's captain, Maj. Magdaleno Castanon, said the military jets
chased the lights " and I believe they could feel we were pursuing them."  When the jets stopped following the objects, they disappeared, he said.

A Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday that the videotape was filmed by members of the Mexican Air Force. The spokesman declined to comment further and spoke on customary condition of anonymity.

The video was first aired on national television Monday night then again at a news conference Tuesday by Jaime Maussan, a Mexican investigator who has dedicated the past 10 years to studying UFOs.

"This is historic news," Maussan told reporters.  "Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country." Maussan said Secretary of Defense Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave him the video on April 22.

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