Zeitgeist

[Awakened_Mind]

I thought some people might enjoy this. Very interesting.

This video goes for two hours so you'll need some time. It begins with religious and astrological sybolism, then progresses into the 9/11 conspiracy and ends at the control of economics and the war in Iraq.

Should start some discussion.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist&total=1398&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

-AM

[Mez]

seen it. pretty good. found the last part the most interesting!

[Awakened_Mind]

I like JFK's speech. He basically stands up and says to America "There is a conspiracy going on that we know about." Somewhere in his speech he says "It has conscripted vast material, political, economical, millitary..." etc maybe not in that order. Then he is assassinated and life goes on as if the tyrant never existed. To me, it was one of the greatest speeches ever made that no one seemed to listen to. No one took seriously.

Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGbcuQs3Og

-AM

[Sharpe]

The part where zeitgeist is linking jesus with the other religions is fake.
It started out great but because the movie started lying about facts, it lost credibility.

[Old Dood]

The part where zeitgeist is linking jesus with the other religions is fake.
It started out great but because the movie started lying about facts, it lost credibility.

Just for the record...that is just your opinion. 

I happen to have a different opinion then you do...

Here is the direct site: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Here is Aaron Russo's last movie (He died in August) titled Freedom to Fascism: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

There is no such thing as a Coinicidence.....there is a reason for everything...

[Sharpe]

That's not my opinion it's a fact, go research it.

[Mez]

Sharpes right. Just look up the "facts" presented in part one... so much of its just crap. Do some research on it and you'll quickly see how false the first part is. Most people just point out the innacuries surounding christianity and what not so i'll point out the ones surrounding hinduism (krishna).

Zeitgiest claims sri krishna was born on december 25th around 900BC and it was a virgin birth.

Sri Krishna was born on july 19/20th 3228 BC and no where is there a mention of any virgin birth which if it was true would be a pretty MAJOR detail dont you think?... It also doesnt make any mention of a star in the east.

Zeitgiest mentions the southern cross which is NOT an ANCIENT constellation but a MODERN one which is infact not even viewable from where the Old Testament was written nor was it even recognised as a constellation at the time.

[Awakened_Mind]

I don't personally understand the first part of the movie or am I particularly interested. If you go and have a look into symbolism, the illumini symbol on the american bills, christian symbols etc you'll find a whole world of debate, theory and coincidence. I don't particulary take part in that. It's obviously bound to run into skepticism. I think the movie touches on religion as a way of saying 'people have tried to control us before'.

Whats true though is this ID card being issued to Americans. The Northern American union, collapsing borders of Mexico and Canada and the creation of the 'amero'. Similarly in Asia and Africa with the 'afro'(spare the jokes guys) and I'm not sure of the name of the Asian currency. The RFI chip, man's disconnection with the natural world is obvious. To completely distrust nature is inevitably headed for a totalatariun world where everything is monitored. "If the people object we simply turn off their chip". The 9/11 conspiracy. It's really just a matter of science rather than politics of who we think did it. The evidence is too overwhelming. The federal debt is at 84 trillion dollars. Global warming.

I really find it hard to understand how someone can try and convince me that business is as usual. "Yeah there are problems but we've faced them before and we got through it then." This is the attitude that caused all the problems in the first place.

-AM

[Mez]

yup. dead on. those chips are nothing but bad news.

[Mez]

I've just found this link

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm

Its a list of similarites between jesus and krishna... theres heaps. Its quite interesting.