Can astral projection be used to kill people?

[andrergsanchez]

However to actually be able to influence the physical from the astral in such a manner that it would kill someone would take a lot of work and training. I suppose there are easier ways to achieve the same result.

Assuming of course that this is actually possible, not necessarily. For example, say you wanted to kill Kim Jon Il (the despot of North Korea). There is next to zero chance that you will be able to do it in your "standard body", especially if you wanted to remain alive (in your current body).

[Tongo]

This cant be possible ...if it was dont you think government officials would had utilized it by now to snuff out political targets?

[andrergsanchez]

This cant be possible ...if it was dont you think government officials would had utilized it by now to snuff out political targets?

Maybe they do? Consider just how alike politicians are. Perhaps the differences that are shown to us, the political conflicts, are merely a show put to channel people's sense of rebellion in a way that has no effect on "the system". You hate Clinton, so they give you Bush. You hate Bush so they give you Obama. You hate Obama so they give you McCain. Except they are all working towards the same thing.

[Tongo]

Well what they show to us doesnt really answer this particular Q.

Why would they spend millions of dollars of manpower to track down criminals such as Osama Bin Laden when all the'd have to do is get some psychic/astral spies to go find him and burst a blood vessell in his brain or something to kill him? if it was possible it would had been done by now.

[andrergsanchez]

Well what they show to us doesnt really answer this particular Q.

Why would they spend millions of dollars of manpower to track down criminals such as Osama Bin Laden when all the'd have to do is get some psychic/astral spies to go find him and burst a blood vessell in his brain or something to kill him? if it was possible it would had been done by now.

Let me start by saying I don't even know if AP is a real experience, as opposed to plain allucination.

However, the answer to that is pretty simple. Bin Laden is not their enemy, if he exists at all. Pretending that he is suits some goal, whatever that goal may be. Perhaps Bin Laden's corpse is sitting in a cave somewhere, and all the effort made to find him merely a smokescreen of one sort or another.

I state the above not as someone who is inclined to crazy conspiracy theories and eager to blame "Bush" or whoever for all the world's problems, but as someone who has a much deeper understanding and awareness than most people regarding just how evil Islam, the real Islam, is.

You could also posit several other explanations. Perhaps Al Qaeda has astral agents defending bin Laden. Perhaps the russian or chinese government has astral agents protecting Al Qaeda, possibly without their knowledge. Perhaps demons have grown close to them, and are providing some sort of protection. Perhaps God is on bin Laden's side.

[CFTraveler]

This cant be possible ...if it was dont you think government officials would had utilized it by now to snuff out political targets?

And what makes you think they haven't?
(Just for the sake of argument, I think my previous answer said what I think of this)

[Aquarious]

Let me start by saying I don't even know if AP is a real experience, as opposed to plain allucination.

However, the answer to that is pretty simple. Bin Laden is not their enemy, if he exists at all. Pretending that he is suits some goal, whatever that goal may be. Perhaps Bin Laden's corpse is sitting in a cave somewhere, and all the effort made to find him merely a smokescreen of one sort or another.

I state the above not as someone who is inclined to crazy conspiracy theories and eager to blame "Bush" or whoever for all the world's problems, but as someone who has a much deeper understanding and awareness than most people regarding just how evil Islam, the real Islam, is.

You could also posit several other explanations. Perhaps Al Qaeda has astral agents defending bin Laden. Perhaps the russian or chinese government has astral agents protecting Al Qaeda, possibly without their knowledge. Perhaps demons have grown close to them, and are providing some sort of protection. Perhaps God is on bin Laden's side.

Its sad that people like you actually exist.

You say that you are 'not inclined to crazy conscpiracy theories' yet, your whole post is one delluded, jumbled piece of babble.

I wish people would think about their own lives for just a moment and then decipher how much of it is clouded by conspiracy. Not much huh? But so many people regard government workers or officials as some kind of inter-galatic, secret high-force with access to information in the spirit and Astral worlds. lol... But they MUST keep it from the public!

I think programmes like 'the X files' or books like 'the Da Vinci Code' help fuel the creativeness of these theories. Yes, govenrments have an agenda but if they could manipulate the material world through the Astral, they'd more than likely WANT us to know about it to scare us senseless. The government control people with fear, thats their most powerful tool.

And if you really think Islam is 'evil', you'd be the ideal voter the government would love to target.

I'm not afraid to say that I don't think someone can be killed by another person who was OBE'ing. 100% No.     

   

[Tongo]

Nope it cant be done.

Seriously if it was possible I think Mr Bin Laden would had died from "mysterious circumstances" years ago.

[Vitruvian]

I would like to open this concept up a bit; instead of 'can someone kill someone else while APing', I'd like to ask this:
Has anyone EVER influenced the material world IN ANY WAY while APing?  By this I mean something as simple as placing an object on a dresser, APing and then moving it over one foot; coming back and seeing that the object has indeed been moved over one foot. Or possibly caused a physical sensation, such as touching another person (who is not APing) while APing?

Anyone? Ever?

Vitruvian
PS - I respectfully suggest that both religion and politics are better left to other threads and forums.