help... how you induce sleep paralysis...?

[ssjoku]

three years ago i woke up in the middle of the night. I couldnt move my body then i open my eyes and i seen a dark figure in front of my bed and it roar at me a chill went up my body and there was a acid like feeling in my chest so i close my eyes then i reliezed that i was having a SP exsperince

[Gandalf]

Yup, the dark figure and so on are all consistent with SP.. all that the scary visions (or in my case voices) are, are fear projections,
once you realise this you will be suprised at how quickly such a scary situation fades and the visions and so on disapear. then all you have to do is sit tight, enjoy the experience and wait for full feeling to return. On the other hand, you might want to go all out and try to achieve a full AP, although as I said, due to the sudden nature of the SP and any residual fear that might still be lurking around, I probably wouldnt recomend it.

Some fear prjections can be quite inventive, once I had what I am convinced was little goblins or elf like creatures trying to pin me down and muttering to me - scary!
The second time this happened part of me was reminded that they were fear projections. as a result they faded away, leaving me in the state of SP without any residual fear manifistations... it then quite obvious what was going on.

I think this is a major problem though, becaue people mistke fear projections as evil entities (I did at first) and this has gone on to fuel the whole 'neg' belief system that plagues everyone on the Psychic self defence forum - those people are convinced they are under attack from negs and this goes on to fuel their belief. Now and again I stop by on that forum but its always the same problem, a lot of them are suffering from SP, they then go onto the astral convinced that they will meet up with evil forces, so of course they do!

Regards,
Douglas

[SiN]

Gandalf: I too once thought that my SP attacks were because of an evil entity (when I didn't really know anything about SP). I've come to realise now that it’s not the case, and that it's probably my own messed up mind that's creating these terrifying 'things' (whatever they may be).

But... can't a sufferer of SP be attacked by a neg? Sometimes I think, in my case, it's true. But I mostly play it off as 'I want an excuse for this damn pain'. Soooo, I'm not sure. I think some (rare) SP 'victims' may well be 'attacked' by an entity.

[Celeste]

Hello Gandalf-
 Your quote: _{I think this is a major problem though, because people mistake fear projections as evil entities (I did at first) and this has gone on to fuel the whole 'neg' belief system that plagues everyone on the Psychic self defence forum - those people are convinced they are under attack from negs and this goes on to fuel their belief}

 In this case you probably are right & the experience is probably a  a projection of fear. They can try your suggestion and see if it works.

  I must comment on your your comments about "neg" belief system plaguing the PSD forum." Have you read Robert's PPSD?  ) I, myself have not been to Australia. I have not met surfers there or been attacked by a sharks.  I do realize that Australia and shark attacks exist whether or not I have experienced them myself. Would I tell someone who says they've been attacked by one --well, you must of just swam too close to a reef,  because 'I' have snorkeled & I've seen the reefs therefore anyone who claims a shark attack either was just scratched by a reef, their deluded or they drew it to them. This is such a common reaction & I think it is a way for people to maintain a distance & false sense of security.

 I have learned by hearing accounts by others that shark attacks are fairly rare &  what to do to avoid them and importantly, how to fend off an attack should I find myself in one. This for me is extremely valuable. If I would have known what I know now I, personally would not have experienced a negative entity. Ignorance is not always bliss. When it happened to me I was shocked and could not understand why I was not forewarned or protected by the Powers that be. After whining for a few yrs to the "Powers that Be" about it --I finally understand now that in Spiritual growth we are expected to face different spiritual trials on our journey.  "God helps those that help themselves" applies here. We can call on help & support from others but there are certain passages that we alone need to go through. We all are getting the same education , we are just taking the required courses in a different order.   I am now much wiser & stronger than I was prior to my experience. I am not claiming to be wise just wiser than I was...I am a complete Spiritual infant.

  Certainly, not all psychic experiences are evidence of psychic attack by an entity but that does not mean that they do not happen. The fact that we can project our fears is very true & a great point that you make based upon your own experiences. However, telling someone who might truly be experiencing this phenomena that it is ONLY their fear they are projecting or taking a scoffing tone is not helpful & not supportive.

 Essentially this is  telling people I don't believe you & don't believe yourself and don't trust your own experience, perceptions and intuition which is absolutely necessary to guide them safely through difficult Spiritual Trials.

  If you've read any of Robert's material on it...there is a definite scale of types of encounters/attacks from very mild to EXTREME. The SEVERE & I'm talking SEVERE attacks and mental strife go hand in hand. The best people can do who have no experience with these things is to be non-judgemental/neutral with it then & direct others to people that can help them to sift through their situations--like the expert & caring moderators on this site.

  Celeste

[goingslow]

I think that was a really good analogy Celeste.  I had posted something trying to state the same type of idea; but i couldnt think of a good analogy or way to put it.

Its very true, I have had fear projections too but my experience doesnt mean there are no real entities out there.  Its kinda like  a person hallucinates and sees snakes while hallucinating.  Then later finds out they were just hallucinating, and figure out why they were hallucinating. So they come up with the conclusion there are no such thing as snakes due to their experience.  

I liked the shark thing though.

[Onelove]

Hi,
I'm new to this site but have been projecting for many years and almost every single time I have done so I have experienced sleep paralasis. From my personal experience (not from something I read), the paralysis gooes away as soon as you realize you can move. It's not your physical body but your astral. And I also don't think that it leads to being attacked by negative entities.
Onelove

[ICWiz]

Here is my 2 cents.


Sleep paralysis is the state In between the waking and the Mind split. If you are in SP and you want to project, all you have to do is relax even more, you will feel your feeling come back, BUT it will not be your real body. It will be your astral body comming into awarness.

I still have the touble of trying to create the mind split before i become aware of my sleep state. I have come to the realization that the "Breathing problems" some people have are caused by the fact that they are falling sleep and are aware of the slowed breathing induced by sleep.(i will post more as i come accross information)

--ICWiz

[ICWiz]

Apperently, you can induce sleep paralysis, if you sleep face up:


Sleeping position: It has been long suspected, and frequently reported, that lying in the supine (face-up) position seems to be associated with sleep paralysis. In our own work we have found that lying in the supine position is five times more likely during sleep paralysis that it is during normal sleep. If one is trying to avoid sleep paralysis then avoiding the supine position is strongly advised. For people who normally sleep in this position changing may prove difficult. However, sleeping on one's back appears to be relative rarely in our international samples, with only 10%-15% of people reporting that they normally sleep in this position. Since, about 60% of sleep paralysis episodes are reported to occur in the supine position obviously many people who are experiencing sleep paralysis are in, for them, an unusual position. The effect of sleeping position is quite evident in the following  figure. The supine position is among the least frequent positions during normal sleep whereas it is clearly the most common position. It is also evident, however, that sleep paralysis may occur in any position for some people (Labeled 'Variable' in the Figure). There are also a few people who appear to have sleep paralysis preferentially in on of the other positions. Nonetheless, a number of respondents, after following our suggestion to try to avoid sleeping in the supine position, have indicated that sleep paralysis episodes have declined or ceased

--ICWiz

[fURIX]

Look, SP is a totaly natural state wich we all have during our night or day time sleep. It is to prevent movement during sleep when we are dreaming, so that we wont hurt our selves in the physical world. It is a bodily function wich is initiated every time while we are going into the dream or OBE-state.

The reason why people relate it OBE's is because of the awareness that you usually have during and after an OBE, and that the SP often dont necessarily stop after OBE since that the body could still be asleep. I have experineced it a few times and it can be quite unpleasant, if you're not used to it.

But its right that if you consentrate on small limbs like your toes and try to wiggle them, you sould be able to break it off. You just have to let your body know that you are awake. (Its wierd but its just one of our primitive bodlily functions.)[]

[timmerdogg]

hi all,
     im new here but i was wonderin wut is the best way to induce sleep paralysis... all help is appreciated

[fURIX]

hehe... nice  if u really want to, then have an alarm clock to wake you up long before u are supose to wake up. In the weekends. hmm... Im actually THINKING here...  but I think the best way would be a wake-up, followed by a back to sleep mode wich again would make it easy for a OBE to occur, then again.... multiple sleep/awakenings cycles would be the recipe,its hard to make, 1 sure end to your means..... Never had sleep-paralisis after a normal "dream" or sleep, but I know a familly member who has.... poor girl. She was terrified by the experience....  I didnt even dare to ask her, if she had had an OBE, but then again I've allready told my familly about my stuff.... what a good laugh they had....  sure they would'nt be lauging if they woke up whitout  their limbs working, not to say having to shoot out of this world....  I laugh however over the sick fact that Im here....  THIS is real----  and no doctor know what the hell Im talking about.... forget sleep-paralazis. What happens to me is scary enough.

[fURIX]

SP is a bodily induced chemical protection against dream-induced involoutary movement. If you see "bad" entities surrounding you in that state you are probably having a nightmare or are actually taken advantage of by negs, or at worst getting owned by alien obductioneres...

Most likely is the case wher you are in the aftermath of an OBE...  (coz this happen often, after?)

Secondly, you could be under the attack of a NEG (Negative creature who will draw your fear-energy to its and others own advantage (wich is more rare and is easy to fight of by just being cocky.... and badass)

Thirdly and most rare of them all is it being generated by aliens.....  They will take you aboard a ship and do traumtic sh** to you like taking your spearm/uterous or/and showing their ugly face....   They will most likely make you forget the ordeal, but remenants of it will still be noticable.

I got triangular marks across my kneecaps, but NO memmory of any obductions....   Seeing the face of a "grey" makes me jump everytime though....

Should ---I--- be concerned?   Probably psoriasis......but still.... HELP!!!!!

[Synergy]

Most of my self induced Etheric projections (real time) have been from the sleep paralysis state.... and my sleep paralysis episodes were mostly all spontaneous.  When I was younger I was terrified of SP!  But when I learned what it was and that everyone experiences it every night (also called REM ATONIA) most people just normally do not wake up consciously during it. - once I realized it was not harmul I learned to use it to OBE but the first time i used it for OBE, I didn't know that was what was going to happen.  That first time, I was still terrified, but I essentially 'gave up' and gave in to what I thought was my fate.... what that fate was I didnt know... but I just knew that fighting was not going to work.  Once I realized that I had an OBE afterward, thats when I started to research sleep paralysis and larned it was not harmful at all.  So then I started using it every chance I got, to induce OBEs.

I have also induced sleep paralysis as well...  usually when I wake early in the morning, and then go back to bed while its still dark out.  I used progressive relaxation, and gave myself a 'suggestion' at the exact moment I felt sleep taking over.  Sometimes I would find myself right in a full OBE, others I would wake in sleep paralysis.  But maybe because my REM system is a bit messed up anyway, I was able to do that... I don't know.

Sleep Paralysis IS scarey.... but it is NOT harmful, and usually lasts mere seconds (although they can seem much longer!) And SP CAN be used to induce lucid dreams and OBEs.... so I don't see any harm in it, if people can find a way to induce the sleep paralysis state.  It will not hurt them.  It's just basically becoming consciously awake during a normal part of REM sleep.

[Rahbat]

so how do you induce the paralysis state that's not SP?